Strength training, calories and Garmin
Monomatapa
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Hi all,
Im new to MyFitnessPall, and I have a small question:
Why does adding my Strength training session under exercise, not result in more burned calories?
I know you might not lose weight per se by lifting junk, but you would burn some calories for sure.
I have also linked my Garmin app to MyFittnessPal and it adds my running and steps, but not my Gym activities...
Anyone who knows how this works? Or don't MyFitnessPal like Strength training?
Im new to MyFitnessPall, and I have a small question:
Why does adding my Strength training session under exercise, not result in more burned calories?
I know you might not lose weight per se by lifting junk, but you would burn some calories for sure.
I have also linked my Garmin app to MyFittnessPal and it adds my running and steps, but not my Gym activities...
Anyone who knows how this works? Or don't MyFitnessPal like Strength training?
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The strength training part of the diary is just a journal for those that like to make notes - no calorie functionality.
But you can add "strength training" in the Cardiovascular part of the diary to get a rough calorie estimate based on typical METS. Enter full duration of your workout as rests between sets are expected.
What would your Garmin use to estimate strength training calories? If it defaults to heartrate that could be a dreadful exageration for what isn't an aerobic exercise. Some devices have a specific mode for strength training but many do not.1 -
The strength training part of the diary is just a journal for those that like to make notes - no calorie functionality.
But you can add "strength training" in the Cardiovascular part of the diary to get a rough calorie estimate based on typical METS. Enter full duration of your workout as rests between sets are expected.
What would your Garmin use to estimate strength training calories? If it defaults to heartrate that could be a dreadful exageration for what isn't an aerobic exercise. Some devices have a specific mode for strength training but many do not.
That it isn't an aerobic exercise, doesn't mean it doesn't burn calories.
My Garmin has a heart-rate monitor (a strap around the chest) and a Strength training mode. It typically logs my sessions of about 1h 15m of intensive strength training (no pausing/resting between sets) as about 600 Calories.0 -
You should be able to log it under CARDIO as circuit training on MFP to get a reasonably analogous number of calories, though my Garmin does log my calories for my strength sessions - I think it may depend on the type of Garmin device you have? I log my sets and reps via my watch and it dutifully catalogs some calories based on my heart rate, though the calories don't appear to be quite right considering the estimations given for heavy squats in recent research data.1
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Monomatapa wrote: »The strength training part of the diary is just a journal for those that like to make notes - no calorie functionality.
But you can add "strength training" in the Cardiovascular part of the diary to get a rough calorie estimate based on typical METS. Enter full duration of your workout as rests between sets are expected.
What would your Garmin use to estimate strength training calories? If it defaults to heartrate that could be a dreadful exaggeration for what isn't an aerobic exercise. Some devices have a specific mode for strength training but many do not.
That it isn't an aerobic exercise, doesn't mean it doesn't burn calories.
My Garmin has a heart-rate monitor (a strap around the chest) and a Strength training mode. It typically logs my sessions of about 1h 15m of intensive strength training (no pausing/resting between sets) as about 600 Calories.
Where did I say it doesn't burn calories?
I even let you know how to get a calorie estimate for it!
But if you are training in a non-stop circuit training style instead of a traditional strength training way (with pauses between sets to recover) log it as circuit training. A different METS value.4 -
Yes, you did, and I thank you for it.
The question though was more about how to get the calories in MyFitnessPal, but even there you and Elisabeth have a good idea!
I will calculate through Garmin, check through METS if its any good and then enter it as Cardiovascular.
Thanks for the help!0 -
ElizabethKalmbach wrote: »You should be able to log it under CARDIO as circuit training on MFP to get a reasonably analogous number of calories, though my Garmin does log my calories for my strength sessions - I think it may depend on the type of Garmin device you have? I log my sets and reps via my watch and it dutifully catalogs some calories based on my heart rate, though the calories don't appear to be quite right considering the estimations given for heavy squats in recent research data.
I have the Forerunner 630, what do you have?0 -
Not sure how you're entering calories on mfp.
Do you not have Garmin and mfp connected? And doesn't your Garmin forerunner I have a whole day calorie tracking mode? (I just checked on the web and it does)
Then Garmin is taking care of transferring ALL your calories (that they believe you expended) to mfp regardless of whether they are also transferring any exercises as specific named exercises.
If you go ahead and enter manual exercises in MFP you're **risking** back pollution of your Garmin data.
(With Fitbit I would say you were doing what I say you're risking. I am not familiar with Garmin integration so I don't know, for sure, if this is what actually happens with them. It is what happens with Fitbit integration. And one of the ways you can overwrite and override a time period that Fitbit didn't detect correctly with data you believe to be more correct)
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Monomatapa wrote: »The strength training part of the diary is just a journal for those that like to make notes - no calorie functionality.
But you can add "strength training" in the Cardiovascular part of the diary to get a rough calorie estimate based on typical METS. Enter full duration of your workout as rests between sets are expected.
What would your Garmin use to estimate strength training calories? If it defaults to heartrate that could be a dreadful exageration for what isn't an aerobic exercise. Some devices have a specific mode for strength training but many do not.
That it isn't an aerobic exercise, doesn't mean it doesn't burn calories.
My Garmin has a heart-rate monitor (a strap around the chest) and a Strength training mode. It typically logs my sessions of about 1h 15m of intensive strength training (no pausing/resting between sets) as about 600 Calories.Monomatapa wrote: »The strength training part of the diary is just a journal for those that like to make notes - no calorie functionality.
But you can add "strength training" in the Cardiovascular part of the diary to get a rough calorie estimate based on typical METS. Enter full duration of your workout as rests between sets are expected.
What would your Garmin use to estimate strength training calories? If it defaults to heartrate that could be a dreadful exageration for what isn't an aerobic exercise. Some devices have a specific mode for strength training but many do not.
That it isn't an aerobic exercise, doesn't mean it doesn't burn calories.
My Garmin has a heart-rate monitor (a strap around the chest) and a Strength training mode. It typically logs my sessions of about 1h 15m of intensive strength training (no pausing/resting between sets) as about 600 Calories.
And that is kind of why I explicitly do not use strength mode when working out on my Garmin. If you are going through sets at a rate that you don't need to pause, chances are you aren't building any strength, you're building aerobic capacity using weights. You're probably at best lifting more over time (if you are) because of learning movement patterns and neural adaptations. If you aren't, there is a slim chance you're burning 600 calories in 75 minutes. A 400 pound squat represents 1 calorie a rep - no one is doing those with no pauses between sets, and no one is doing that for 75 minutes, reaching 600 of them.1 -
Monomatapa wrote: »Hi all,
Im new to MyFitnessPall, and I have a small question:
Why does adding my Strength training session under exercise, not result in more burned calories?
I know you might not lose weight per se by lifting junk, but you would burn some calories for sure.
I have also linked my Garmin app to MyFittnessPal and it adds my running and steps, but not my Gym activities...
Anyone who knows how this works? Or don't MyFitnessPal like Strength training?
My Garmin (VA3M) imports my strength training just fine into MFP, perhaps it's an issue with your particular model?
Adding manual exercises will then add to your Garmin account and mess up your TDEE in Garmin if it's already logged as an activity in Connect.
Would maybe try disconnecting everything and re-adding it.
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magnusthenerd wrote: »And that is kind of why I explicitly do not use strength mode when working out on my Garmin. If you are going through sets at a rate that you don't need to pause, chances are you aren't building any strength, you're building aerobic capacity using weights. You're probably at best lifting more over time (if you are) because of learning movement patterns and neural adaptations. If you aren't, there is a slim chance you're burning 600 calories in 75 minutes. A 400 pound squat represents 1 calorie a rep - no one is doing those with no pauses between sets, and no one is doing that for 75 minutes, reaching 600 of them.
1: You see your own goals as every-bodies goals.
2: Circle training builds muscle, functional strength and resistance.
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I don't think the Forerunners are designed to track strength training. I can log sets and reps from my VivoActive 3 and I specifically got it over a Forerunner, because of this enhancement.
It doesn't estimate the calories very well, but it at least gives me a reasonably accurate number for time under tension so I can do my own calculations if I'm feeling that nit picky. Which I seldom am. I end up with 65 calorie burns on a 30 minute workout, but it all ends up averaging out over the course of the day.1
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