Talk me through this "moderation" thing -
infamousmk
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I'm gonna get for reals on you guys right now. I don't typically ask for advice or talk about my own journey, but I think a little reassurance would be nice. Hang with me here if you can:
I want to make this lifestyle change stick, for good this time. This is the third time I have used exercise + watching what I eat to get healthy. I've done it on an 'all natural, almost clean' deal, I've done it on WW, and now I'm doing 'everything in moderation'.
So far, moderation is working. And this is the first time I've made this journey on my own, not with a dude being all up in my *kitten* about it. So, I know I've got the mental part down (mostly). I know I've got the physical part down too - I work out more days than I don't, and I like being active.
Here's where my concern is... Some days I do the whole "moderation" thing, and I stay pretty close to my calories even when I'm drinking beers, etc. And then I get worried that I haven't actually made the proper changes to my lifestyle, and six beers from now I'll have blown it. I know that's irrational, and I know I'm the only person that can know for sure if I'm going to get it right...
I guess what I'm looking for is to hear from other people that have reached their goals and maintain all while leading a moderation-based lifestyle. I need to hear that this is totally do-able. Some days it feels too easy - I seriously stop sometimes and think, "OMG, is this really the secret to leading a long, fit life?? I got this *kitten* in the bag." ... and the slow and stead weight loss reflects that, too. I guess I'm just afraid one day it's going to stop working and I'll lose all of my hard work and goddamn it I don't want to ever have to deal with getting fat again.
I want to make this lifestyle change stick, for good this time. This is the third time I have used exercise + watching what I eat to get healthy. I've done it on an 'all natural, almost clean' deal, I've done it on WW, and now I'm doing 'everything in moderation'.
So far, moderation is working. And this is the first time I've made this journey on my own, not with a dude being all up in my *kitten* about it. So, I know I've got the mental part down (mostly). I know I've got the physical part down too - I work out more days than I don't, and I like being active.
Here's where my concern is... Some days I do the whole "moderation" thing, and I stay pretty close to my calories even when I'm drinking beers, etc. And then I get worried that I haven't actually made the proper changes to my lifestyle, and six beers from now I'll have blown it. I know that's irrational, and I know I'm the only person that can know for sure if I'm going to get it right...
I guess what I'm looking for is to hear from other people that have reached their goals and maintain all while leading a moderation-based lifestyle. I need to hear that this is totally do-able. Some days it feels too easy - I seriously stop sometimes and think, "OMG, is this really the secret to leading a long, fit life?? I got this *kitten* in the bag." ... and the slow and stead weight loss reflects that, too. I guess I'm just afraid one day it's going to stop working and I'll lose all of my hard work and goddamn it I don't want to ever have to deal with getting fat again.
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I follow an "everything in moderation" lifestyle and have been at or below my original goal weight for almost a year now.
I've learned to read labels, I've learned what the serving size of something is and I follow it. I've learned that there are some things I REALLY love (like chocolate almonds) and I'm more than willing to give up the calories to have them. I've also learned that there are things that aren't worth my calories - like a frappe' from McDonald's.
I log everything I eat. Every single bite. If I bite it, I am logging it. Regardless of how small or how big it may be. I log it.
I eat birthday cake for birthdays (I do take the frosting off so I can have a larger piece of cake! Frosting is too sweet for me now, so why eat it? Scrape it off and get a bigger piece of cake -- sweet!). I go to BBQ's and family picnics - I take smaller servings of everything.
I don't drink alcohol, so I can't help there. I was never a big drinker, didn't like the way it made me feel and I know it can be full of calories. For me, it was an easy thing to give up because I didn't really enjoy it anyway. I'd much rather eat my calories than drink them - but that is ME. It is different for everyone.
I don't really pay much attention to my carbs, sugar or my sodium - as I know my body isn't overly sensitive to any of these things.
I've learned my body is all about calories in/calories out. I eat a HUGE amount of calories in a day and I am happily maintaining this weight - so I know it works for me.0 -
I have been doing the moderation thing and I have like you done it the other ways as well. I have dropped almost 60lbs probably have dropped 60 - I weigh in soon...
Anyway, this is sustainable for me. I believe this works and when you put the all or nothing attitude into it.. things go crazy for me and I rebel hard core.
I like being reasonable. = )
It sounds like you are very aware of what is going on and really working to understand the lifestyle you are creating. I think you are well on your way!0 -
I think it means that you are finding out what your body naturally wants. We are not meant to be unhealthy and that is proven by how lethargic and crappy we feel when we are not taking care of ourselves. Our bodies need to move and feel better when they do (seriously, that runner`s high is addictive). Our bodies also need fuel. It is just a perk that a lot of that fuel tastes great. As long as you provide your body with a healthy amount it will function optimally. Life is not meant to be a struggle, it is meant to be enjoyable. That means enjoying everything just as you have said "In Moderation". Keep up the good work and continue to enjoy the journey.0
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Thanks everybody!!! I definitely have found some things that are not really worth it for me to eat any more, but I make ways for the things I love to fit. I do feel like this is going to stick with me for the rest of my life, but I doubt myself some times. I gotta be reasonable and I gotta have cake when someone is having a birthday and I gotta enjoy life!0
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Well, here are my thoughts on moderation and how it has worked for me. I've never been very good at it when I wasn't strictly monitoring my calorie intake. And... I am numbers person. I like data and precision so... I can turn into a Crazy Lady when I am tracking my calories. Works like a charm, though. I have lost and gained the same 20 lbs about four or five times in the past decade. What happens is that I reach my goal weight, I maintain for a bit, then I decide that I'm not going to track my whole life, so why don't I try "eyeballing it." And then a small glass of wine 1-2 a week turns into beers 3-4 nights a week.... plus appetizers. Plus some ice cream a couple nights a week, and so on and so on. Never going bananas or anything but, pretty soon.... the weight is back on because I stopped paying attention.
So, I need to find another way. I am simply not going to weigh and measure every bite that goes into my mouth for the rest of my life, even though that has always worked for me. Simply trying to maintain with "moderation" is a recipe for me having selective amnesia. Certain foods just cause me to want more of them. (And I'm not talking Twinkies here. I have had small binges of oatmeal, for pete's sake, because I can't seem to get enough of it once I have it.) I am trying to lose weight by going (low-ish carb) paleo but "free eating" (eating when I am hungry, to satiety, not eating when not hungry). I'm only tracking one day a week to check in and see what I'm eating, not to constrain it. I can't say that it'll work forever, but it seems to be working for now, and I feel a lot less chained to my kitchen scale. :happy: I'm not saying that I'll never have a piece of cake or some ice cream as a celebration, but I feel like if I just stop lying to myself about how terribly my body seems to handle sugar and many carbs, then I can keep them for truly special occasions (and for me "because we finished dinner" isn't special enough).
I don't know if that is the kind of answer you're looking for. I'm interested in hearing what others say.0 -
kaitlinj - thank you for sharing! That's the kind of stuff I worry about - how long am I going to like goofing off on the forums, thus providing me with the diet tracker *right. there.* ... I don't know how long tracking will actually work for me. I suppose as long as I make the changes and continue enjoying the same kinds of foods, it won't be too hard, but my worry is that my once a week splurge on some FF will turn in to three times a week, and the next thing I know I'm pushing 200lbs. again. BOO.. I don't need that!
I suppose only time will tell.0 -
You know I do "moderation" thing too. But I drink light beer instead of real beer. I go to McDonalds but I get a hamburger instead of a Big Mac. I go over my goal calories all the time (probably 5 out of 7 days). But I work out a lot, eat mostly healthy. My philosophy is "make good choices". Sometimes the good choices I make are still not great but at least I tried.0
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You know I do "moderation" thing too. But I drink light beer instead of real beer. I go to McDonalds but I get a hamburger instead of a Big Mac. I go over my goal calories all the time (probably 5 out of 7 days). But I work out a lot, eat mostly healthy. My philosophy is "make good choices". Sometimes the good choices I make are still not great but at least I tried.
You're my role model. You've done an amazing job and I know you are definitely reasonable with your choices. This week I netted an average of 1600ish calories.. which is still a deficit, but the choices weren't all the best.0 -
bunp tomorrow, I need to go to sleep.0
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I've been dieting since I was in middle school (yikes!). I'm very, very tired of the diet roller coaster and I decided this time was going to be different. I was very successful on WW in the past and I've worked with a nutritionist, so I already had a good idea what a serving of most food looks like. This time around I'm tracking everything I eat but I'm not weighing or measuring ANYTHING. I want to be able to do this as "normally" as possible. I want to teach myself that I can eat whatever I want, in a reasonable quantity and still (slowly) lose the weight.
Sometime it's hard to accept the slower loss doing it this way. If I was weighing/measuring everything and being very strict, I would definitely be losing more. But the positive is that I don't feel at all like I'm on a diet now. I really feel like I'm learning to eat in a way that I can maintain forever.
"Guesstimating" may not work for everyone (and there may come a time when I have to be more careful or accurate myself) but for now it's working well . It's certainly helping me make the mental shift away from my previous eating patterns without feeling deprived or like I'm dieting.0 -
To me, moderation means I can eat whatever I want, as long as I don't go overboard.
Life happens.. and so do birthdays, bbq's, busy days and cranky I just want to eat my feelings days. You know what... it's allowed. It's not taboo.. If you want that burger, eat it, log it and exercise to make up for it. If you know in advance, your having "junk" great... fine! Just exercise so you have extra calories, and your good to go.
I'm substitute teachers aid.. so I live off moderation. If I'm lucky I get my sub calls the night before, but most days it's between 5 am and 7 am. Once I get that call, I have 45 minutes generally before I need to rush out the door. I eat food that easy but still healthy.. think oatmeal, turkey sandwiches on whole grain bread with fruit and water for lunch, and then a semi healthy dinner with a glass of wine depending on if my kids behave or not..
Bottom line.. if it's working for you, then great.. and when it doesn't, you can always switch it up.0 -
I've been dieting since I was in middle school (yikes!). I'm very, very tired of the diet roller coaster and I decided this time was going to be different. I was very successful on WW in the past and I've worked with a nutritionist, so I already had a good idea what a serving of most food looks like. This time around I'm tracking everything I eat but I'm not weighing or measuring ANYTHING. I want to be able to do this as "normally" as possible. I want to teach myself that I can eat whatever I want, in a reasonable quantity and still (slowly) lose the weight.
Sometime it's hard to accept the slower loss doing it this way. If I was weighing/measuring everything and being very strict, I would definitely be losing more. But the positive is that I don't feel at all like I'm on a diet now. I really feel like I'm learning to eat in a way that I can maintain forever.
"Guesstimating" may not work for everyone (and there may come a time when I have to be more careful or accurate myself) but for now it's working well . It's certainly helping me make the mental shift away from my previous eating patterns without feeling deprived or like I'm dieting.
Great job! You sound like you are doing it quite sanely. I think that writing stuff down, even without strictly counting calories, definitely helps. My problem is not that I don't know what servings look like and stuff, it's that, over the day (and then over the week, month, etc.) I selectively "forget" how much of those "reasonable servings" I've had! A decadent dessert once every other week becomes ice cream 3-4 times/week, etc.0 -
Yeah, I never weigh or measure either (actually I measure sugar in my coffee and cheese but that's it). I just guess. I did measure and weigh last time but I think I've got it figured out now, and I guess by serving amount and such.0
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So far, moderation is working. And this is the first time I've made this journey on my own, not with a dude being all up in my *kitten* about it. So, I know I've got the mental part down (mostly). I know I've got the physical part down too - I work out more days than I don't, and I like being active.
I think you answered your own question above. LIke you said you are doing this for YOU for once. Not a guy pushing you to be who they want you to be. I think when you are making a lifestyle change for yourself it can truly work. You don't need to feel pressured to lose weight fast, have immediately noticable changes or to eat a perfect diet. There is no one behind you watching your every move and expecting results but you. If you choose to have a beer, or three you know that you are not "cheating on your diet" but that you are enjoying yourself and tomorrow you will probably drink more water to balance things out. Doing this as a lifestyle change means you can still have fun, go out with friends, celebrate special occasions and most importantly not drive yourself crazy. I know that you can do this, we are all here for you and understand that if one day you have a piece of cake that the world will not end. Sorry if this was a little long winded!!! :happy: :drinker:0
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