Intermittent fasting vs calorie counting for women

I tried intermittent fasting before and hated it I am on a deficit and it’s easy for me to count calories. But I’m just wondering if there’s really a difference or even a point in intermittent fasting as all you’re doing is trying to reduce calories either way except if you don’t track with fasting you could overeat anyway
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  • Jthanmyfitnesspal
    Jthanmyfitnesspal Posts: 3,522 Member
    It seems like fasting doesn't fit well with aerobic exercise.

    Maybe some people can do it, but I've found that I can't. If I do the run in the morning (fasted) I'm mega hungry about an hour later and need to eat something. If I fast throughout the day, I can't run in the afternoon.

    When I've fasted, it's been on a non-exercise day. I might walk around a bit, but I won't go on a 5 mile run!
  • seedrah6
    seedrah6 Posts: 56 Member
    mmapags wrote: »
    This is not an either/ or question. You still track calories with intermittent fasting. It doesn't magically cause weight loss. It is just a tool to help with calorie control.

    That’s exactly my point. I already control my calories so don’t think intermittent fasting makes much difference.
  • seedrah6
    seedrah6 Posts: 56 Member
    steveko89 wrote: »
    I've dabbled with IF a few times and found it's just not a fit for me. I always tracked calories while doing IF and there was no discernible difference in scale weight or other intangible "benefits" from IF. Adherence is a little easier to come by when doing IF but nothing I can't match by being diligent with adherence eating throughout the day.

    Yeah I find restricting eating to a time is very obsessive and doesn’t work with my daily appetite. I have a small appetite anyway but it’s usually high in the morning/first meal plus IF throws off your hormones and doesn’t seem too fun

  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
    seedrah6 wrote: »
    mmapags wrote: »
    This is not an either/ or question. You still track calories with intermittent fasting. It doesn't magically cause weight loss. It is just a tool to help with calorie control.

    That’s exactly my point. I already control my calories so don’t think intermittent fasting makes much difference.

    That really becomes a personal preference issue. If you are comfortable with your current eating pattern and hitting your calorie goals in a sustainable way, why change anything. There is no inherent weight loss benefit to IF.

    For some of us, we are not that hungry in the morning and like bigger meals later in the day. For me, it suits my preferences and keeps me on track for my calorie target effortlessly.
  • playhardkf2017
    playhardkf2017 Posts: 875 Member
    This article has a lot of solid information in it for anyone interested. I also like how it mentions IF isn’t for everyone: https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/intermittent-fasting-surprising-update-2018062914156
  • wizzybeth
    wizzybeth Posts: 3,578 Member
    I have had sleep and digestive issues. I am hoping eating on an I.F. schedule will help ease those issues. Having a shorter window of time to eat can help you eat less, but not if you stuff yourself during your feeding time. You still have to monitor your intake vs. output.

    Like some others on here, I prefer to save my calories for later in the day when I am prone to being more hungry - doesn't matter if I eat breakfast in the A.M. or not - I'm still hungry in the evening. Trying to stop eating by 8pm and into bed by 11. That's hard. But if I can eat the bulk of my calories by 8pm....I hope to stop over doing it on snacks.
  • ExistingFish
    ExistingFish Posts: 1,259 Member
    I am doing IF simply because I found it hard to stick to my calorie goals eating 3 meals a day + snacks. I would eat and then be hungry again.

    I have no problems getting up and not eating for a while, I'm not even starving when it's time to eat. I do drink coffee in the meantime, so you could say I'm not really fasting I'm just eating really low calorie in the AM.

    I don't expect any other benefits.
  • lemurcat2
    lemurcat2 Posts: 7,885 Member
    edited May 2020
    I had no issues hitting my calorie goal with 3 meals, no snacks, however spread across the day (snacking or grazing makes me feel hungry all the time), but I started experimenting with earlier in the day IF before the corona shutdown (curious how it would feel, if my sleep would be better), and kind of liked it (I was doing 2-3 meals from 7-4). Weirdly now I'm home all day I tend to eat 2-3 meals without a traditional breakfast, and still with dinner by 7 at the latest. Today I ate at 3 and 7. I'm just going with when I feel like eating, and I tend to skip breakfast -- my weekend schedule used to be 12 and 6 (with 6 often a nice restaurant dinner before a play or concert), so this is more like that without the fun activities included).

    I don't think what I'm doing is ideal for when working outside of the house for me, but I'm going with it so long as it feels right.

    I still have to count cals when eating within a window unless I eat in a very mindful way -- and when eating in a very mindful way I don't have to count cals when eating 3 meals spread from 6 to 9, which was my old habit. It's about what keeps me mindful if not counting (obv counting does).
  • cupcakesandproteinshakes
    cupcakesandproteinshakes Posts: 1,136 Member
    I just started skipping breakfast this week to see if I’m better on 2 larger meals.so far so good. I’m still counting cals tho.
  • bluej85
    bluej85 Posts: 16 Member
    edited May 2020
    I did IF for a few months some years ago when it just lined up really well with my work schedule. Never had the willpower to go back to it but it did help a lot and appealed to my laziness. I wasn't obsessing on portioning and eating tiny unfilling snacks and meals that just made me hungrier all day or worrying about the spirit of spontaneous snacking taking hold of me. I just, didn't eat. And then I the early evening I could have basically anything I wanted.

    Agreed though with the main point people have made here that it's more a way to control calorie intake, it doesn't mean the calories don't matter.
  • youngmomtaz
    youngmomtaz Posts: 1,075 Member
    I am like swimmchick ^. If I start eating early it is like I am hungry all day. If I drink coffee for breakfast, coffee or tea late morn, sometimes I don’t feel hungry until late afternoon. Then I eat. I like big meals. It leaves me satisfied to eat a large meal and then have room for an evening snack so that is what I do. Usually a fruit or veg(often with dip or Pb when I am first hungry, sometimes I will switch it up and do a protein shake, then I will cook out big family supper, then a snack or the rarely planned dessert in the evening. It works well at controlling my hunger through the day, keeping my calories in the 16-2000 range for the moment, and I have some meds that are better taken spaced apart, and each without food so I know they are absorbing well early in the day too. The docs are starting to finally agree with me and suspect delayed gastric emptying, I actually find eating this way my digestion is improved. Maybe more stomach acid or digestive action later in the day? We are not sure yet. But smaller meals through the day leave me bloated and in quite a bit of pain for the past 1.5years.

    People always ask about workouts. I lift in the mornnngs. Building upwards on my squat and bench, etc. Seeing great movement these past months even with some injuries(old job, massage therapy related) to overcome. And I typically also will go for a run in the aft before I eat. 2-3miles/day at the moment. After my evening meal I am out again to walk the dog or sometimes we bike instead. No energy dips, I find I have more consistent energy and more so when I keep my meal hours smaller because my gut doesn't hurt.
  • missyelainious
    missyelainious Posts: 30 Member
    I do both. I eat Noon-8PM and find that waiting until noon (except for one AM black coffee!) gives me more flexibility for the rest of the day. I definitely need to count calories also, portion control has always been my biggest challenge.
  • Tesha231
    Tesha231 Posts: 381 Member
    Counting calories with IF is very important for another reason that I experience that has not yet been mentioned....eating too little ! IF helps with hunger so well that sometimes you just dont feel hungry especially if you try to limit your simple carbs when you do eat. It's important to count calories to make sure you are reaching your healthy calorie goal each day.

    This was an extremely important note to add! I IF 16:8, eating 11a-7p and keep around a 1200-1400 daily caloric intake. There are many times I am either not hungry or get fuller faster when it is meal time. When I added extra miles to my exercise and kept the same caloric intake, I gained weight. Sometime you have to eat whether you are hungry or not (or even up your calories to a lesser deficit) to keep your metabolism in check. There is a thread on this site that talks about eating more to lose more that summarizes this topic much better than I did!
  • AprilSue
    AprilSue Posts: 88 Member
    If you have elevated insulin levels IF can be one of the only ways to get insulin low enough to burn fat. If no insulin issues there would be no noticeable difference