Not trying to be so negitive but..

markeeley
markeeley Posts: 20 Member
edited October 2 in Chit-Chat
At 400 pounds I made the choice to skip gastric bypass and lap ban surgery. with hard work I have lost 100 pounds to date. But I kind of get upset when I hear people who had this surgery talk about how much weight they have lost, when they took the easy route.
No problem at all with people who had the surgery if it was vital for health and life.
I also had my own mother go through with this surgery. I had to hear her talk about how much she has lost and how fun shopping for clothes is now. Two years later, her weigh is climbing back up ..

What does everyone else think?
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  • ChantalGG
    ChantalGG Posts: 2,404 Member
    I think you are amazing to do it this way. People will have so much more respect for you.
  • I think if you work hard to take off the weight, you appreciate your journey more than those who had the surgery. When you remember the hours spent working out, or the diet changes you made, you never take that for granted. When you work hard for anything, it is always worth it in the end. Keep working hard, bc when you reach your goal, you will never allow yourself to gain it back because you will remember the battle to lose it! Keep your head up!
  • kimbux
    kimbux Posts: 154 Member
    Congratulations on your weight loss..... :smile: I have to agree - I, too, don't agree with weight loss surgery (and am sure someone is going to HATE me because I said that). I can name 3 friends who have had the surgery AND gained back all their weight plus some over the years. I also had a realtive GAIN 20 lbs to be eligible for weight loss surgery only to have the surgery go terribly wrong and nearly die.

    Bottom line - NOTHING is better than exercise and hard work.

    Keep it up - you are going to be a star :happy:
  • TDGee
    TDGee Posts: 2,209 Member
    This can be a hotly debated topic here. Congrats on your successes with the choice you made. I'm going to sit back and watch the poo storm build now.
  • SueInAz
    SueInAz Posts: 6,592 Member
    My best friend made the same decision you did. Since she is already pre-diabetic, she chose a low carb (Atkins) way of life. She lost over 100 pounds 5 years ago and has kept it off.

    I know quite a few people who went the surgery route, too. The problem with the surgical options is that they FORCE people to eat differently for awhile, but don't teach them to actually eat better. Once their stomachs stretch back out, a lot of them go back to their old (bad) eating habits and the weight comes back on. I actually feel more sorry for them than anything else.

    That isn't to say that a couple of them haven't kept the weight off years after their surgery, because I know of two who have, but they also made a commitment to exercise and eat better when they decided on the surgery.

    Of course, I also had one friend who actually died during the surgery from a bad reaction to the general anesthetic. It's definitely not without its risks....
    Edited for typos!
  • I think you are amazing to do it this way. People will have so much more respect for you.




    Agreed and well said.
  • gel91
    gel91 Posts: 309
    You done the hard way yeah, but it's also the smart way.

    Being healthy is nothing unless you work for it, then you can really appricate every second of hard work that goes into you feeling that great. Knowing you're the only reason you are feeling that way!
  • MayMaydoesntrun
    MayMaydoesntrun Posts: 805 Member
    I think you may be a tad judgemental...

    I've not had the surgeries or had to lose 100+ pounds, and I commend anyone, no matter how they did it, for doing it.
  • ilike2run
    ilike2run Posts: 34 Member
    i agree--kudos to your for taking the route that has THE best chance for success!!! at 285 lbs, my friend spend 3 years appealing to her insurance company to pay for lap band--the repeatedly denied her. She finally started putting all that energy into healthy eating and exercise!!! She lost 135 lbs!!! No surgery necessary...it is the long hard road but with the greatest reward!!! Keep it up!!!
  • Nomomush
    Nomomush Posts: 582 Member
    I think there are 100 ways to get to a destination. The journey you pick is your journey not anyone else's. I think if someone knew that you opted not to have the surgery and they did and they knew what you were trying to do, then they should be considerate and refrain or limit the amount of conversation they are have with you about it...if they knew how it makes you feel.

    As for the journey you picked...kudos to you girl. This is the hardest journey in our life and you will be thankful for the it soon. Keep it up. The rewards will be tremendous and you know you did it the good ol' fashioned healthy way.
  • kenzietea
    kenzietea Posts: 614 Member
    I have never considered it an option myself, and I do see exactly where you are coming from. The problem with these surgeries is many times the men and women who get them still don't learn the eating and exercise habits you need to stay at your healthy weight, and the weight does come back on. Look at Carnie Wilson, she lost all the weight and looked great for a while, but is obese again. I don't think it is the easy way out necessarily, but I don't always think spending the money and having to go through a difficult recovery is always the best choice.
  • I think that it might take you longer to reach your goal, but when you get there you'll actually know how to live like a healthy person and you will maintain your weight. None of us appreciates anything that we didn't work our butts off for....ask anyone with a teenager!
  • rudegyal_b
    rudegyal_b Posts: 593 Member
    the slimband ads on mfp dont help :)
  • bomomar
    bomomar Posts: 94 Member
    I think anyone can take the easy way out, but, it is so much more rewarding when you put in the hard work. I think you will do better in the long run because you know how much work it is and wont want to go back. If you have surgery its easy to let it go and say it's ok I can just do surgery again. I also don't think surgery of any kind is a good idea if you don't have to. You are doing it the right way. Great job on the 100 pound mark that is awesome. You are awesome.
  • cbrick143
    cbrick143 Posts: 26 Member
    my mother had surgery as well (last summer), and just about every time I speak with her, she has to mention how much weight she has lost - it is frustratingly annoying, especially since she never truly tried to lost any weight on her own. Kudos to you for putting in the hard work to reach your goals! Keep up the good work!
  • ohwhataday
    ohwhataday Posts: 1,398 Member
    I commend you for doing it the 'hard' way! Great job! And I feel like that's much more of an accomplishment than with any surgery, no offense to those that have had it. But I feel like most of those people will gain some amount of it back. You really have to be mentally prepared.. I could imagine.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    I think you are 100% correct. Doing it the harder way is best unless it is a matter of life and death, because doing it slowly teaches you how to maintain your weight once you've lost it. Losing it quickly does not, which it sounds like your mother may be finding out. I hope for her sake that she can learn good habits now to prevent gaining all the weight back. From what I've heard most people who go the surgery route also have to deal with a lot of unsightly skin because of the rapid weight loss. You are less likely to have that because your skin will have time to adjust as you lose more slowly.

    Your weight loss so far is very impressive!! Good luck to you!
  • grassette
    grassette Posts: 976 Member
    Good for you for finding the alternative to surgery. It takes a long time to recover from surgery, and sometimes there are side effects that you never recover from. And the life style changes learned in the self-discipline needed to diet will help you over the long term. Not taking the easy way out is what you needed, what you decided, and don't let anyone else throw you off course. As Mother Teresa used to say: "It's between you and God; never between you and other people".
  • I agree..if you had to work to get the pounds off then I am sure you are more likely to not regain. I would be interested to see if there is a long term study to see after 5 years what peoples weight was. Did the people that had lap band really keep losing pounds or did they plateau and then climb again?

    I respect everyones decision's for their own lives, and appreciate that both bring their own sets of challenges but I must admit I think the surgery is a bit of a cop out.
  • calimari
    calimari Posts: 202 Member
    I understand where you are coming from, but I would not say that the surgery is the "easy way out" either. I have known a few people who have had this surgery - for two, they have been successful, but they have had to remain vigilant about what they eat to maintain where they are at. They are forced into a lifestyle change AFTER the fact, whereas you are CHOOSING a lifestyle change instead. For two others, they died of complications from the surgery. One was a girl who was very heavy all thru school. I saw her at our 20 year reunion - she looked beautiful - had a handsome man on her arm - he took me aside & told me he was going to propose to her the next month, at Xmas. He did, they got married, she got pregnant - and then complications from the surgery - she and the baby died. So, no - I don't think she took the easy way out either.

    We all get to this point differently. We have all tried different approaches with different levels of success or non-success. We all lead different lives. You take pride in knowing what you are doing is the healthier way, albeit more difficult way, to lose weight. The others might seem to be taking pride in taking the "easy way" - but you don't know what is in store for them down the road. Be gracious and let them enjoy their success as well. It never hurts to smile and say "Yes, I know - I'm enjoying buying some new clothes too."
  • epj78
    epj78 Posts: 643 Member
    I think everyone has to make the decision that is right for them.

    For WLS to work long term, people that go through that have to put in the work too or it comes back (like you are starting to see with your mom). Believe it or not, some people that have had the surgery will eat highly fat and calorie ladden things straight - like butter. Because it wasn't being hungry that caused them to gain the weight. So, I don't think any way is the easy way out. I think you have to put a lot of hard work into addressing root causes of issues for anything to work. Sure, WLS helps the weight come off easier, but it doesn't ensure the weight is going to stay off or you are going to be a happier person. But, some people need that boost to start working on what the real issue is.

    And congratulations on the work that you have done!!!! No matter what learning good eating habits and exercise habits is a MUST to maintain weight loss and you are definitely doing that!
  • mallorybriann
    mallorybriann Posts: 1,380 Member
    I do feel like some people "take the easy way" by getting surgery and don't learn how to change their lifestyle. They just look at the surgery as a quick fix. Some don't. Some people are at the point where it's life or death and need surgery.
    I commend you on losing through a healthy lifestyle. What you learned through your journey will stay with you a lifetime.
    Congrats on all your hard work!!!
  • Melanie_Robinson
    Melanie_Robinson Posts: 36 Member
    I agree. I have several acquaintances that have had the surgery. They are very small, but their skin and hair look sick. {Not being mean, they just look unhealthy}. I have been working hard and see very SMALL results. I just know they are thinking " Why don't she just have surgery?" If my life was in danger I could see it, but other than being overweight I have no health issues (for that I am thankful). I am just determined to do it the healthy way, however long that takes. Good for you on your loss! Keep it up!
  • NoAdditives
    NoAdditives Posts: 4,251 Member
    Congratulations on your weight loss!

    I agree with you completely. I think it's ridiculous that weight loss surgeries are so easy to get. And, I heard on the news a while back that a bunch of doctors were wanting to ease up on the restrictions for those procedures! It's so much better if you just put out the effort to lose the weight naturally. You learn how to make changes to your diet and exercise habits so that you keep the weight off and can actually live a healthier life. Weight loss surgeries are just like any other quick fix, for most people they don't work in the long term.
  • skinnywithin
    skinnywithin Posts: 1,392 Member
    This can be a hotly debated topic here. Congrats on your successes with the choice you made. I'm going to sit back and watch the poo storm build now.


    SCOOT OVER TEDDY, and hands him a beer...lets watch this show together !! I think one will get good .
  • Kimdbro
    Kimdbro Posts: 922 Member
    Congratulations on your hard work and success in weightloss! You did it the right way. The struggle is as mental as it is physical... in many ways more. People that do not succeed on facing the mental angle will often re-gain, or experience other issues down the line. Keep your chin up when you listen to others that chose the road of surgery brag of their success.... you know you did the time and work and are better for it! As for your Mom... I'm unsure how you can help her from climbing back up, it's tricky to keep from causing problems or having her become defensive. Perhaps offer her some advice on what has helped you 'maintain' , strike it as something you can do together. I wish you every luck, you've done amazing!
  • Honestly, I feel the same way with my friends who are doing HCG. At the end of the day, though, I can only focus on myself and what I'm doing. When I hear them talking about how hard they worked to lose weight, I just smile. They are doing what they feel is best for them, just like I'm doing what I feel is best for me. :)
  • At 400 pounds I made the choice to skip gastric bypass and lap ban surgery. with hard work I have lost 100 pounds to date. But I kind of get upset when I hear people who had this surgery talk about how much weight they have lost, when they took the easy route.
    No problem at all with people who had the surgery if it was vital for health and life.
    I also had my own mother go through with this surgery. I had to hear her talk about how much she has lost and how fun shopping for clothes is now. Two years later, her weigh is climbing back up ..

    What does everyone else think?

    I think everyone has their own reason for it. Some people have tried literally everything, including diet and exercise. Some people have health conditions or medications that make it very difficult to lose weight. Maybe they needed to lose it fast and this was their way. . And if you've never been through gastric, you can't possibly call it the "easy route" - because my close friend went through it and recovery was hell. She had no time to train her body to eat less and I cant tell you how many times she ended up sick from eating too much or eating the wrong foods. When you do it the old-fashioned way, you havetime to train yourself and gradually introduce or take away foods. It's a reality that some people gain it back, but that's again because they don't have a lot of time to prepare themselves for it.
    your way is working for you , 100 lbs is great!! But, I fail to see how someone else having success with lap band should make you upset... becausein the end, both ways result in weight loss and a healthier person.
    Oh and most people only do lapband because it IS vital for health and life, as reputable surgeons won't operate unless medically necessary.............

    You asked, that's what I think.. and btw, I've not had lapband and don't qualify for it, but like I said, my friend went through hell after hers'... and 5 years later she has kept it off .
  • sleepytexan
    sleepytexan Posts: 3,138 Member
    congrats on your weight loss.

    I have never been overweight, however, I don't feel one way or another about people who choose to have surgery to lose weight. I'm not sure that any surgery is easy; there are certainly risks that include death. My guess is people who choose that route cannot, for some reason, do what you have done. Perhaps they don't have the willpower, support, knowledge . . . whatever it is that they're lacking to succeed with another method.

    I have a brother-in-law who must be nearly 400 lbs., he is only 50 years old, but in need of double knee surgery due to his weight.

    I wonder why he DOESN'T get lap band or some other such weight loss surgery instead of knee surgery, but it is not my body, so really not my business.

    In any event, you should be proud of your accomplishment regardless of what others are doing.

    blessings.
  • Rae6503
    Rae6503 Posts: 6,294 Member
    I also think it's great that you are doing it the old fashioned way! You are learning how to eat, how to handle your emotions, cravings, everything. I bet you'll be much more successful. People who do the surgery have the weight loss forced on them. They often don't learn what being healthy is really all about.

    My sister was actually encouraged to GAIN wait to be eligible for surgery, but her best friend, a NURSE. I'm so proud that she's doing it the right way and that she seems to finally be having some sucess.
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