Losing lots- diet or exercise first?

empressjasmin
empressjasmin Posts: 170 Member
Hello!
Forgive me for asking this again especially because I feel like I’ve asked it before lol - but for anybody who has had to lose a lot (50 plus) did you focus on diet first and then exercise once you got to a certain weight? I’m having such a hard time and continuously starting over because I’m afraid of lifting weights and not losing. I know that that’s not really possible for women (to bulk) but I just feel stuck. Curious to hear any stories of women who had to lose a lot and where you started and what got the ball rolling. I’ve lost weight before but quarantine has me at my highest weight and I’m feeling like I’ve tried it all! Thanks!

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  • empressjasmin
    empressjasmin Posts: 170 Member
    Thank you! This makes sense!
  • Ddsb11
    Ddsb11 Posts: 607 Member
    Hello!
    Forgive me for asking this again especially because I feel like I’ve asked it before lol - but for anybody who has had to lose a lot (50 plus) did you focus on diet first and then exercise once you got to a certain weight? I’m having such a hard time and continuously starting over because I’m afraid of lifting weights and not losing. I know that that’s not really possible for women (to bulk) but I just feel stuck. Curious to hear any stories of women who had to lose a lot and where you started and what got the ball rolling. I’ve lost weight before but quarantine has me at my highest weight and I’m feeling like I’ve tried it all! Thanks!

    What got the ball rolling is picking something and sticking to it consistently OP. Either way will work, but only if you commit. What method can/will you be able to commit to? What is the lifestyle choice that makes the most sense in your life?
  • empressjasmin
    empressjasmin Posts: 170 Member
    msalicia07 wrote: »

    What got the ball rolling is picking something and sticking to it consistently OP. Either way will work, but only if you commit. What method can/will you be able to commit to? What is the lifestyle choice that makes the most sense in your life?

    I struggle the most with diet (at times) so I’d say that it may be easiest for me to stick with getting my diet together and being consistent with that. I am good about consistently taking a walk or getting strength training in at home, however, I know that’s not helpful if my diet is poor.
  • Ddsb11
    Ddsb11 Posts: 607 Member
    msalicia07 wrote: »

    What got the ball rolling is picking something and sticking to it consistently OP. Either way will work, but only if you commit. What method can/will you be able to commit to? What is the lifestyle choice that makes the most sense in your life?

    I struggle the most with diet (at times) so I’d say that it may be easiest for me to stick with getting my diet together and being consistent with that. I am good about consistently taking a walk or getting strength training in at home, however, I know that’s not helpful if my diet is poor.

    My best advice is eating food you actually enjoy and will be a part of maintenance. And to find staple foods that fill you up to keep you satiated. Be sure to weigh your food with a food scale for awhile. It is highly impactful in saving you months, if not years, of dieting with no results.
  • empressjasmin
    empressjasmin Posts: 170 Member
    msalicia07 wrote: »

    My best advice is eating food you actually enjoy and will be a part of maintenance. And to find staple foods that fill you up to keep you satiated. Be sure to weigh your food with a food scale for awhile. It is highly impactful in saving you months, if not years, of dieting with no results.

    That makes sense. Thank you! 😊
  • SModa61
    SModa61 Posts: 3,117 Member
    diet - I have lost lots of weight in my life without a minute of exercise. I am exercising now for health, and calorie burn is a perk.

    A popular expression out there is "You cannot outrun a bad diet". <3
  • Duck_Puddle
    Duck_Puddle Posts: 3,237 Member
    Both for me. First-being healthy means doing some cardiovascular exercise and some resistance training a few times a week. So you will want to be working towards fitting that into your life regardless of your weight loss goals.

    The bonus is that exercise burns some calories so it gives you a bit more freedom in the diet department. By “a bit more freedom” I mean a couple hundred calories - which can be the difference between adhering to a calorie deficit or not.

    Another bonus is that doing some exercise (particularly heavy resistance training) will help you keep muscle as you lose. That’s important for having that “toned” look people seek.

    If you are in a calorie deficit-you will lose weight over the long haul. Your weight will fluctuate for a bazillion reasons - including increased activity. If you are in a calorie deficit-you will continue to burn fat regardless of whether your scale weight is temporarily higher.

    Find the balance that allows you to maintain a calorie deficit with reasonable ease and includes exercise. That means you’re not hungry all the time, or depriving yourself of anything tasty and doing workouts that are reasonable for your current level (meaning not going 0 to 3 hours a day at the gym). Finding food and activity you enjoy doing are the keys.

    You’re going to be doing this for life. Make sure whatever you’re doing is something you can see yourself doing forever. That may mean losing more slowly or eating more carbs than someone on IG thinks you should, but consistently doing something is the most important.
  • lynn_glenmont
    lynn_glenmont Posts: 10,097 Member
    Hello!
    Forgive me for asking this again especially because I feel like I’ve asked it before lol - but for anybody who has had to lose a lot (50 plus) did you focus on diet first and then exercise once you got to a certain weight? I’m having such a hard time and continuously starting over because I’m afraid of lifting weights and not losing. I know that that’s not really possible for women (to bulk) but I just feel stuck. Curious to hear any stories of women who had to lose a lot and where you started and what got the ball rolling. I’ve lost weight before but quarantine has me at my highest weight and I’m feeling like I’ve tried it all! Thanks!

    What got the ball rolling for me was a "wellness fair" through work that showed me I was far from well -- just shy of stats that would have doctors prescribing blood pressure and cholesterol meds, and in the pre-diabetes range for blood sugar. I called a health care adviser that the folks at the wellness fair referred me to, and she suggested I try MFP, and I began logging immediately. So I guess I would have to say I focused on diet first, but I incorporated extra walking pretty quickly as well (I think it was later the same day, but certainly within the week).

    I hadn't been exercising regularly for a good while, so just adding extra walking seemed like a good place to start. What I did was instead of walking to the closest subway stop, I walked to one stop further on, then two stops, then three stops, and occasionally four stops (which was a good 40 minutes or more).

    Then I started adding long walks on the weekend as well. Finally after about three months and about 25 lbs lost, I joined a gym and started lifting and taking various aerobic classes. I found a local yoga studio that I would go to occasionally and revived my mostly abandoned home yoga practice.

    Lifting weights will not keep you from losing weight (other than in the very short through water retention for muscle repair masking fat loss), so long as you are in a calorie deficit.
  • Noodlesprout
    Noodlesprout Posts: 15 Member
    Obviously diet is the primary factor in weight loss.
  • Dogmom1978
    Dogmom1978 Posts: 1,580 Member
    Ummm.... I take offense to women not being able to bulk and (I’m not one but) every single body builder woman out there would take offense to such a comment. You aren’t going to bulk though unless you are actively trying to.

    That said, weight loss is about calories in vs calories out. Cardio and weight lifting are fantastic for health reasons.
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 34,620 Member
    edited October 2020
    Oops, network problem, duplicate post. See below.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    Hello!
    Forgive me for asking this again especially because I feel like I’ve asked it before lol - but for anybody who has had to lose a lot (50 plus) did you focus on diet first and then exercise once you got to a certain weight? I’m having such a hard time and continuously starting over because I’m afraid of lifting weights and not losing. I know that that’s not really possible for women (to bulk) but I just feel stuck. Curious to hear any stories of women who had to lose a lot and where you started and what got the ball rolling. I’ve lost weight before but quarantine has me at my highest weight and I’m feeling like I’ve tried it all! Thanks!

    I had over 50 pounds to lose and started exercising right away. Among its many benefits, exercise is crucial to my mental health.

    When I started weightlifting, I did retain water and my scale did go up initially, but I lost all that and more within a few weeks.
  • Diatonic12
    Diatonic12 Posts: 32,344 Member
    What you gots is functional muscles for the WIN. @springlering62
  • AlexiaC47
    AlexiaC47 Posts: 65 Member
    you should do both. I do not believe women cannot bulk up, but you will not. You are not a professional body builder (otherwise you wouldn't be asking). I think "women cannot bulk up accidentally" is more accurate.

    for me exercise is key and it is 50/50 diet and exercise.
  • empressjasmin
    empressjasmin Posts: 170 Member
    Thanks everyone! Lots of helpful advice here 😊
  • lorrpb
    lorrpb Posts: 11,463 Member
    I literally started both “diet” and “exercise” on day 1. Diet was tracking in MFP. Exercise was strength training with a PT 2x and walking. I started at barely 1/4 mi/day and got to a 5k within 2 months. Strength training helped me function better and made me happier with what I saw when I got to goal 150 lbs and 2.5 yrs later. Still maintaining, still strength training, still walking, added biking and swimming, 6 1/2 yrs now.
  • Lietchi
    Lietchi Posts: 6,885 Member
    edited October 2020
    50 lbs ago, I started by being more mindful of my food intake: first on Noom, and after a few weeks I switched to MFP.

    I used my phone to track my steps on MFP and quickly realized that:
    - I was terribly sedentary
    - sticking to my calorie goal is more pleasant when I have more calories to consume (=when I'm active)

    So I started increasing my activity level: extra steps, walking on the treadmill. And after a few months I gradually incorporated running and indoor rowing. And later on, also strength training.

    I feel a lot fitter now, and that's not only due to losing 50 lbs but also the exercise I do.
  • springlering62
    springlering62 Posts: 8,681 Member
    @AnnPT77
    “ Getting my eating under control via calorie-counting was easier than I expected. I felt like an idiot for not doing it much earlier. It wasn't super easy every second, but I was expecting major difficulty, deprivation, angst, and more - didn't happen. It was kind of a fun science fair experiment for grown-ups, with a few mis-steps along the way, but pretty manageable, and the payoff was huge. Daily life got easier, joint pain reduced, health improved, and I just felt a higher sense of well-being.”


    Oh wow. This!!!!!!
  • empressjasmin
    empressjasmin Posts: 170 Member
    @Lietchi exercising for me is definitely a good mood booster but also gives a back calories and is a great way to stay fit! Thanks for sharing!

  • IronIsMyTherapy
    IronIsMyTherapy Posts: 482 Member
    I find I stick to my macros way better when I'm consistent with exercise. If I just burned 1000 cals in a brutal leg workout, I'm gonna want to eat some steak, sweet potatoes and broccoli. If I'm injured, I just might pity eat a pizza lol.

    But, too many people starting fitness don't grab that unique opportunity to make some "newbie gains". If I could go back to when I started, I'd set myself up with a solid flexible dieting plan and strength training plan with a focus on compound lifts.

    Bottom line, do both for optimal results.
  • littlegreenparrot1
    littlegreenparrot1 Posts: 702 Member
    For me it is much easier to maintain a reasonable diet when I am exercising regularly.
    The exercise seems to need to come first, then the diet follows along. I think it's to do with improved mental health and the self care that comes with it.

    If I'm making the effort to get up an hour early to train I am much less likely to fall head first into the chocolate biscuits.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    Hello!
    Forgive me for asking this again especially because I feel like I’ve asked it before lol - but for anybody who has had to lose a lot (50 plus) did you focus on diet first and then exercise once you got to a certain weight? I’m having such a hard time and continuously starting over because I’m afraid of lifting weights and not losing. I know that that’s not really possible for women (to bulk) but I just feel stuck. Curious to hear any stories of women who had to lose a lot and where you started and what got the ball rolling. I’ve lost weight before but quarantine has me at my highest weight and I’m feeling like I’ve tried it all! Thanks!

    I focused on both...but for different reasons. I think it's important to start thinking about exercise as something to do regardless of weight management goals. In a world where the vast majority of people sit and do nothing most of the day, regular exercise is a very important aspect of overall health and well being...regardless of whether one is overweight or not. I know plenty of people who are overweight, but exercise regularly and are generally regarded as being in good health as per their blood work and other health markers...conversely, I know quite a few people who are of a "normal" weight who do next to nothing for regular exercise who are in poor health. Your weight is only one of numerous health markers.

    There is no reason not to start moving more...where weight management is concerned, the focus should be on your diet and how many calories you are taking in vs how many you need...but exercise will always play a major roll in overall health and vitality. Where many go wrong IMO, is going full on crazy with exercise trying to exercise the fat off yesterday...no need for that, and it won't work anyway. What you do for exercise should be something that is manageable day to day into perpetuity. Most people I know who are healthy and fit don't really "workout"...they are just active people...they go for jogs or walks or ride bikes or go hiking, etc. I myself only "workout" about twice per week in the weight room...most of what I do exercise wise is just getting out and being an active person. As weight management goes, I just watch what I eat...exercise and being active is good for my health and overall fitness...but my diet is going to have a far greater impact on my weight.
  • domeofstars
    domeofstars Posts: 480 Member
    The most important thing for me was diet first. Once I accurately started to measure and weigh everything, as well double checked the true calorie content of foods (as MFP is often inaccurate as its user added) the weight started to come off. Once I combined calorie restriction with a one hour walk each day, the magic started to happen!
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,028 Member
    Always a combination. While diet alone is all you need to lose weight, I DON'T want a lot of that weight to be lean muscle mass. Hence the exercise with resistance training.


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