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joannehornik7727
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Good Morning!!! I been working on my inflammation inside my body!! I fight Lupus .... I found a lot of greatness to foods and spices like ginger root, tumeric and more for inflammation!!! I am 51 years old .... I am working on me!!! So with this being said in Feb. 2021 I am going to online school for Holistic Remedies ....Praying I succeed this and be able to help others fighting the same thing!!
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I hope you post what you learn as how it helps you personally. I don't have Lupus but know that inflamation is a huge issue with me and when I find myself most healthy it is because I am paying very close attention to what I am putting in my body.2
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This is all personal experience. YMMV.
I have residual joint pain after several bouts of Rhuematic fever. It’s basically a strep infection gone haywire, which tricks your body into attacking muscle, thinking it’s the intruder. It’s extremely painful, and pretty much incapacitated me for several weeks each episode, because of the joint pain and swelling.
Weight loss has helped tremendously- ironic, since an attack in my late 20’s caused my first significant weight gain.
What’s helped: Weight loss, avoiding being wet & cold (instant trigger, and difficult because I sweat at the drop of a hat and am always chilled to the bone if it’s under 60 degrees), long hot soaking baths, Alleve (only occasionally- causes stomach pain if taken too long and often) and a mild
herbal cream called Penetrex, which seems to be very effective for some users but not for others. I “save” Penetrex for my worst moments because it’s instant relief for me, and I’m afraid of building up a tolerance. That’s why I’ve avoided arthritis medications that were prescribed. I figured it would suck to use them in my 50’s and have them be ineffective when I really need them after twenty years of use.
Happily, I’ve recently discovered a weighted blanket. They are the greatest thing since sliced bread. Having that mild pressure on my body soothes my joints. I don’t know why and I don’t care. I just know this stupid blanket has been like the miracle direct from the hand of God. I wouldn’t sleep without one. I bought the cheapest one I could find on Amazon, in case it was snake oil, and have been overjoyed to find it provides relief far exceeding anything I could have ever hoped for, and the cheap one was perfectly fine.
Most of my nighttime joint pain has disappeared since I started using one, which means I don’t toss and turn every five minutes, which in turns means I’m sleeping better, too. Win-Win! And non-medicinal, too? Woot!!!!!!
The other effective solutipn has been “flowing” movement type exercise: walking, yoga, Pilates. Like the annoying arthritis ad says, “A body in motion, stays in motion.” That slogan has really stuck with me. If I sit for long periods, things seize up.
Running sometimes exacerbates my inflammation, as does weight lifting. And over stretching in yoga can be an issue, too. I can’t make myself stop, even though I know I’ll regret it as soon as I cool down.
Do try one of those weighted blankets. I got a twin sized (so it would only cover my side of the bed) 15 pound one. It is filled with tiny glass beads. I swear it feels like it weighs more, but when I step on the scale with it, it’s exactly 15 pounds. They are not washable, unless you want the concentrated weight slamming around in your appliance. For $20 bucks, I’ll just buy a new one when this one gets too disgusting. Warning: it’s a cat magnet. Mine loves to sleep on top of it. I’m not sure I could wrassle it into a duvet cover to save it from the cat fur, because of the weight.8 -
It's nice to know I'm not the only one suffering from inflammation. My knee is the culprit. I could barely walk yesterday, but it's better today. Sugar is my trigger, and with the holiday approaching, I've partaken in too much candy and cookies. I'm back on track today. I just got home from the store where I bought fresh veggies, and fruit. I also picked up a bottle of Turmeric. I'm also going to try and get back to my exercise routine, walking first and then hopefully add on something else once my knee has fully recovered.
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.... My knee is the culprit.....
Carol, if I had a dime for every person in these forums who has said their knee felt better with weight loss!!!!
For me, it was The GERD From Hell. Relief came with the first ten pounds lost, and completely disappeared with the next ten. The only time it comes back is if I have a sweets or carbs binge. I consider it a harsh reminder of “don’t go there again, girlfriend”.
Our bodies talk to us. Do we listen?8 -
Do some research on Intermittent fasting. It has been a life-changer for me and my Hashimoto's.
https://stoughtonhealth.com/wp-content/uploads/Living-an-intermittent-fasting-lifestyle-presentation-7.15.2020.pdf2 -
Going gluten free helped my wife tremendously with Fibromyalgia. It isn't overnight, but gradual. She also learned she was allergic to cow dairy. Eliminating those two things, along with reducing sugar and fried foods helped so, so much. She's pretty much in remission now.
We also eat a lot more vegetables and eat more plant based. I found out I was celiac by going gluten free with her. When we do get accidentally glutened, I'm a mess -- she's fine. Eventually, we went back to sheep and goat cheese -- they don't bother her, but we still minimize the dairy.4 -
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Do some research on Intermittent fasting. It has been a life-changer for me and my Hashimoto's.
https://stoughtonhealth.com/wp-content/uploads/Living-an-intermittent-fasting-lifestyle-presentation-7.15.2020.pdf
It's great that this helps for you, but there's a lot of woo in this presentation to be honest. Weight gain after losing is our bodies trying not to die, etc.5 -
Do some research on Intermittent fasting. It has been a life-changer for me and my Hashimoto's.
https://stoughtonhealth.com/wp-content/uploads/Living-an-intermittent-fasting-lifestyle-presentation-7.15.2020.pdf
It's great that this helps for you, but there's a lot of woo in this presentation to be honest. Weight gain after losing is our bodies trying not to die, etc.
Hence the reason, I said research. There are tons of clinical studies and science to back this. Agree or disagree, that is your right. Again, research what works for you.
Have a great day.2 -
Do some research on Intermittent fasting. It has been a life-changer for me and my Hashimoto's.
https://stoughtonhealth.com/wp-content/uploads/Living-an-intermittent-fasting-lifestyle-presentation-7.15.2020.pdf
It's great that this helps for you, but there's a lot of woo in this presentation to be honest. Weight gain after losing is our bodies trying not to die, etc.
I had an hour conversation with one of the top cancer researchers in the US a few weeks ago (I'm a technical headhunter that does some Life Sciences recruiting with startups). Although I do IF daily (mostly for CICO purposes and I'm a night time eater, so it fits my life), I was surprised how much into it he was. He said it flipped a metabolic pathway switch. The science was way over my head. I was talking to him about technical recruiting needs (he might start a microbiome department and that's where I'd come in).
I don't think it's the magic bullet some claim it is, but there's something to it.
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/3243472 -
springlering62 wrote: »
Oh, I know. It was my hip that hurt until I lost 26 pounds. My knee has started hurting just recently.1 -
MikePfirrman wrote: »Do some research on Intermittent fasting. It has been a life-changer for me and my Hashimoto's.
https://stoughtonhealth.com/wp-content/uploads/Living-an-intermittent-fasting-lifestyle-presentation-7.15.2020.pdf
It's great that this helps for you, but there's a lot of woo in this presentation to be honest. Weight gain after losing is our bodies trying not to die, etc.
I had an hour conversation with one of the top cancer researchers in the US a few weeks ago (I'm a technical headhunter that does some Life Sciences recruiting with startups). Although I do IF daily (mostly for CICO purposes and I'm a night time eater, so it fits my life), I was surprised how much into it he was. He said it flipped a metabolic pathway switch. The science was way over my head. I was talking to him about technical recruiting needs (he might start a microbiome department and that's where I'd come in).
I don't think it's the magic bullet some claim it is, but there's something to it.
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/324347
The research is pretty preliminary, and I've seen studies that suggest that it's good for blood glucose control for men but can be harmful for women, for example, as well as some studies that indicate putting most cals into the evening can be less beneficial than a more traditional eating pattern (circadian rhythym is another disputed thing some believe is quite important, potentially), so I'd be REALLY careful in suggesting that we know enough to recommend it generally, especially since we do know that many other factors go into what meal timing works for people. (I found the Satchin Panda book interesting, but that was really more about a 12-hr period without eating, not the ever more lengthy "fasts" people now seem to be pushing toward -- since if a little is good, more is better, right?).
If I'd been convinced IF was somehow important when I was losing, it would have messed me up, since my work schedule was long hours (I never ate dinner before 9), and I liked working out in the morning and eating after (so earliest meal was about 6:30, latest at 9). I don't eat between meals, so meal timing doesn't affect CICO for me.
I am not anti IF at all. I do it now and like it, simply because with a more flexible schedule I like working out just before lunch and so tend to eat between 1 and 8 (I like eating 2 meals although I find it difficult when not on a deficit). I also have just naturally done it at other times of my life. But I find most of the dramatic claims about it pretty unlikely. (I think it's more likely to be helpful as a counter to the current tendency in the US for cals to be high do to eating throughout the day and into the night by people not watching cals in any way -- that seems quite likely to lead to increased cals and some bad food choices on average.)2 -
MikePfirrman wrote: »Do some research on Intermittent fasting. It has been a life-changer for me and my Hashimoto's.
https://stoughtonhealth.com/wp-content/uploads/Living-an-intermittent-fasting-lifestyle-presentation-7.15.2020.pdf
It's great that this helps for you, but there's a lot of woo in this presentation to be honest. Weight gain after losing is our bodies trying not to die, etc.
I had an hour conversation with one of the top cancer researchers in the US a few weeks ago (I'm a technical headhunter that does some Life Sciences recruiting with startups). Although I do IF daily (mostly for CICO purposes and I'm a night time eater, so it fits my life), I was surprised how much into it he was. He said it flipped a metabolic pathway switch. The science was way over my head. I was talking to him about technical recruiting needs (he might start a microbiome department and that's where I'd come in).
I don't think it's the magic bullet some claim it is, but there's something to it.
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/324347
The research is pretty preliminary, and I've seen studies that suggest that it's good for blood glucose control for men but can be harmful for women, for example, as well as some studies that indicate putting most cals into the evening can be less beneficial than a more traditional eating pattern (circadian rhythym is another disputed thing some believe is quite important, potentially), so I'd be REALLY careful in suggesting that we know enough to recommend it generally, especially since we do know that many other factors go into what meal timing works for people. (I found the Satchin Panda book interesting, but that was really more about a 12-hr period without eating, not the ever more lengthy "fasts" people now seem to be pushing toward -- since if a little is good, more is better, right?).
If I'd been convinced IF was somehow important when I was losing, it would have messed me up, since my work schedule was long hours (I never ate dinner before 9), and I liked working out in the morning and eating after (so earliest meal was about 6:30, latest at 9). I don't eat between meals, so meal timing doesn't affect CICO for me.
I am not anti IF at all. I do it now and like it, simply because with a more flexible schedule I like working out just before lunch and so tend to eat between 1 and 8 (I like eating 2 meals although I find it difficult when not on a deficit). I also have just naturally done it at other times of my life. But I find most of the dramatic claims about it pretty unlikely. (I think it's more likely to be helpful as a counter to the current tendency in the US for cals to be high do to eating throughout the day and into the night by people not watching cals in any way -- that seems quite likely to lead to increased cals and some bad food choices on average.)
Not scientific research, but general GP knowledge. I've lived in the Middle East for quite a few years, and ever GP told me and female friends and colleagues to reconsider fasting along with my colleagues during Ramadan (some Westerners do) because they see lots of health problems related to fasting in women, even just temporarily and when counting calories. Men are told they can fast along or not, doesn't matter. Of course they can't tell the locals because that would be problematic. I don't know how much validity is in that, and I can't fast along anyway as I crash if I don't eat every 90-120 minutes (something about how my body accesses or not accesses energy). Doesn't mean though that I'm against IF. Each their own.1 -
MikePfirrman wrote: »Do some research on Intermittent fasting. It has been a life-changer for me and my Hashimoto's.
https://stoughtonhealth.com/wp-content/uploads/Living-an-intermittent-fasting-lifestyle-presentation-7.15.2020.pdf
It's great that this helps for you, but there's a lot of woo in this presentation to be honest. Weight gain after losing is our bodies trying not to die, etc.
I had an hour conversation with one of the top cancer researchers in the US a few weeks ago (I'm a technical headhunter that does some Life Sciences recruiting with startups). Although I do IF daily (mostly for CICO purposes and I'm a night time eater, so it fits my life), I was surprised how much into it he was. He said it flipped a metabolic pathway switch. The science was way over my head. I was talking to him about technical recruiting needs (he might start a microbiome department and that's where I'd come in).
I don't think it's the magic bullet some claim it is, but there's something to it.
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/324347
The research is pretty preliminary, and I've seen studies that suggest that it's good for blood glucose control for men but can be harmful for women, for example, as well as some studies that indicate putting most cals into the evening can be less beneficial than a more traditional eating pattern (circadian rhythym is another disputed thing some believe is quite important, potentially), so I'd be REALLY careful in suggesting that we know enough to recommend it generally, especially since we do know that many other factors go into what meal timing works for people. (I found the Satchin Panda book interesting, but that was really more about a 12-hr period without eating, not the ever more lengthy "fasts" people now seem to be pushing toward -- since if a little is good, more is better, right?).
If I'd been convinced IF was somehow important when I was losing, it would have messed me up, since my work schedule was long hours (I never ate dinner before 9), and I liked working out in the morning and eating after (so earliest meal was about 6:30, latest at 9). I don't eat between meals, so meal timing doesn't affect CICO for me.
I am not anti IF at all. I do it now and like it, simply because with a more flexible schedule I like working out just before lunch and so tend to eat between 1 and 8 (I like eating 2 meals although I find it difficult when not on a deficit). I also have just naturally done it at other times of my life. But I find most of the dramatic claims about it pretty unlikely. (I think it's more likely to be helpful as a counter to the current tendency in the US for cals to be high do to eating throughout the day and into the night by people not watching cals in any way -- that seems quite likely to lead to increased cals and some bad food choices on average.)
Not scientific research, but general GP knowledge. I've lived in the Middle East for quite a few years, and ever GP told me and female friends and colleagues to reconsider fasting along with my colleagues during Ramadan (some Westerners do) because they see lots of health problems related to fasting in women, even just temporarily and when counting calories. Men are told they can fast along or not, doesn't matter. Of course they can't tell the locals because that would be problematic. I don't know how much validity is in that, and I can't fast along anyway as I crash if I don't eat every 90-120 minutes (something about how my body accesses or not accesses energy). Doesn't mean though that I'm against IF. Each their own.
For what it's worth, I agree with you. Keto has shown some temporary benefit as well but I'm not eating pork rinds 24/7. I was just a bit surprised to hear a top researcher (at a very prestigious national cancer center) mention it and how he thought there was something to it.
I'm not recommending one way or the other. I simply do it 5 days a week because I eat like a pig sometimes at night and it's the only way I can cut down on my calories easily.
My wife doesn't do well fasting. She's a lot like you sound. She gets very irritable and even light headed if she goes too long without food. I usually go like 16/17 hours fasting, without an issue, and she might go 14 and be OK.2 -
IF is not for the weak, that's for sure. You have to be motivated and disciplined and if you have to eat every hour, IF is not for you. I like it for all of the benefits, researched and tried and true to myself, plus my best runs are fasted. I make no apologies. It's not for everyone.2
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IF is not for the weak, that's for sure. You have to be motivated and disciplined and if you have to eat every hour, IF is not for you.
I disagree with this. I think on the whole everyone is better off eating according to the schedule easiest for them. I am plenty weak, and I currently eat two meals, almost always within 7 (often fewer) hours, just because that's what seems to be easiest and most enjoyable for me right now given my exercise schedule and being at a deficit (I can have two big meals without feeling like I am eating any less).
It would be FAR harder for me to have to eat every hour and stay in my cals, because that's just not how I prefer to eat. Snacking or grazing is generally unsatisfying for me, and when I ate 3 meals a day (when I lost 90 lbs), my eating schedule was based around my preferred eating/workout schedule then -- 3 meals at 6:30 or 7, noon, and 9 most days. I don't consider my current schedule harder than the old one -- if it were I'd go back to the old one, as I may when I'm going into the office daily again -- and I certainly don't consider it harder than other ways of eating (or I'd pick the one easiest for me and my goals).
I think one does have to be motivated and disciplined (at least at first, motivation tends to be less long lasting than habits) to lose weight and keep it off, but I don't think that's more so for one eating schedule vs another (except as in again picking a schedule that works with our own preferences).5 -
IF is not for the weak, that's for sure. You have to be motivated and disciplined and if you have to eat every hour, IF is not for you. I like it for all of the benefits, researched and tried and true to myself, plus my best runs are fasted. I make no apologies. It's not for everyone.
I didn't disagree your post. I am wondering slightly about the term 'weak'. If this was meant as a Clint Eastwood kind of joke it's fine. Otherwise I don't think anyone is weak for having to eat at regular short intervals. Everyone is different, and everyone utilizes energy slightly differently.6 -
IF is not for the weak, that's for sure. You have to be motivated and disciplined and if you have to eat every hour, IF is not for you. I like it for all of the benefits, researched and tried and true to myself, plus my best runs are fasted. I make no apologies. It's not for everyone.I didn't disagree your post. I am wondering slightly about the term 'weak'. If this was meant as a Clint Eastwood kind of joke it's fine. Otherwise I don't think anyone is weak for having to eat at regular short intervals. Everyone is different, and everyone utilizes energy slightly differently.
I didn't click disagree either but am also put off by the phrase "IF is not for the weak." Not only does it come across as sanctimonious, but it's not accurate - many posters here have said that IF is a natural or easy way for them to eat.6 -
IF is not for the weak, that's for sure. You have to be motivated and disciplined and if you have to eat every hour, IF is not for you. I like it for all of the benefits, researched and tried and true to myself, plus my best runs are fasted. I make no apologies. It's not for everyone.
I didn't disagree your post. I am wondering slightly about the term 'weak'. If this was meant as a Clint Eastwood kind of joke it's fine. Otherwise I don't think anyone is weak for having to eat at regular short intervals. Everyone is different, and everyone utilizes energy slightly differently.
Indeed. In contrast to the PP commenting that her fasted runs were the best, my fasted workouts (I'm a rower) basically suck pond scum. I do some occasionally for logistical reasons, but they're miserable, and I underperform. 🤷♀️
If that makes me weak (. . . in some people's eyes . . . ), their problem, not mine. I agree with those more recent in the thread that people are usually best served by adopting an eating schedule that's easier for that individual to stick with, but I know there are a few people who are motivated by doing something they find grand and difficult. More power to them. 🙂
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