Does sugar free koolaid count for water?

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  • maidentl
    maidentl Posts: 3,203 Member
    Doing so does not somehow chemically change the composition of the water such that it ceases to be water. It's still water, it just has another substance dissolved in it.

    THANK YOU!
  • Twasney
    Twasney Posts: 186 Member
    Here is an awesome article my nutritionist sent to me when we talked about this..

    http://www.sparkpeople.com/resource/nutrition_articles.asp?id=605

    Hope that helps
  • dannylives
    dannylives Posts: 611
    It's water according to my nutritionist. No Carbonation, No Cafeine and No Sugar = water.

    Best of Luck!!!

    This sounds like a good answer. I didn't read all of them.
  • runningmom1977
    runningmom1977 Posts: 56
    An awesome alternative to plain water without the chemicals is to add some cucumber slices and cantaloupe chunks to a pitcher of water. Gives it a nice fresh flavor!
  • auntie_missy
    auntie_missy Posts: 113 Member
    Doing so does not somehow chemically change the composition of the water such that it ceases to be water. It's still water, it just has another substance dissolved in it.
    It seems like there are two main sides to this argument. There's what's quoted above, and then there is the side that believes that if the substance you dissolve in the water is junk, then the water becomes junk. I tend to agree with the latter; I don't red food dye or aspartame, but I do need water.


    Now - let me ask a question for those who say carbonation is bad - why? If someone is drinking Perrier or Pelligrino, why is that bad?
  • d2footballJRC
    d2footballJRC Posts: 2,684 Member
    Doing so does not somehow chemically change the composition of the water such that it ceases to be water. It's still water, it just has another substance dissolved in it.
    It seems like there are two main sides to this argument. There's what's quoted above, and then there is the side that believes that if the substance you dissolve in the water is junk, then the water becomes junk. I tend to agree with the latter; I don't red food dye or aspartame, but I do need water.


    Now - let me ask a question for those who say carbonation is bad - why? If someone is drinking Perrier or Pelligrino, why is that bad?

    My trainer told me to not count carbonated beverages, I have no idea why. I've dropped a lot of weight so I'm having a tendancy not to question it too much. I was curious though. I was guessing it had to do with the carbon dioxide or something.
  • Kikilicious84
    Kikilicious84 Posts: 312
    Oh boy here we go again with a lot of mis-information. The fact is simple, many of the things that you eat and drink contain water. The goal is to get a minimum of 8 cups of water into your system. That water can come from kool-aid, coffee, tea, soda, whatever. Now that said, you do have to account for the other items that may be in those drinks (i.e. sodium, caffeine, sugar, etc) and log those into your diary so that you get a solid view but there's no reason it has to be plain pure water. In fact, if you actually read the recommendations on this from the clinical studies, the suggestion is 8 cups of FLUID, not water specifically.

    Look at it this way, if I take one of those single serving powder tubes and a 16oz bottle of water, I can consume them one of two ways. I could either drink the water straight and then eat the powder in the tube. If I did this no one would argue that I had just taken in 2 cups of water. Of course I'd have to log what I ate in the powder (calories, sugars, carbs, sodium, etc). The other way I can eat it is to dissolve the packet in the water and drink them together. Doing so does not somehow chemically change the composition of the water such that it ceases to be water. It's still water, it just has another substance dissolved in it. Dissolution is NOT a chemical reaction that would change the makeup of the water, it merely means that the molecules of the powder are now intermixed with the molecules of the water (yes I'm oversimplifying I know - to all the science teachers out there).

    So anyway, water is water however you get it, just be sure to account for the calories and other properties of anything you add to it.

    :laugh: @ "Eat the tube of powder" :laugh:

    I've been having a pretty crummy day but that made me smile and was also informative.

    :drinker:
  • alyssamiller77
    alyssamiller77 Posts: 891 Member
    Doing so does not somehow chemically change the composition of the water such that it ceases to be water. It's still water, it just has another substance dissolved in it.
    It seems like there are two main sides to this argument. There's what's quoted above, and then there is the side that believes that if the substance you dissolve in the water is junk, then the water becomes junk. I tend to agree with the latter; I don't red food dye or aspartame, but I do need water.


    Now - let me ask a question for those who say carbonation is bad - why? If someone is drinking Perrier or Pelligrino, why is that bad?

    OK and that's fine, but the fact that the drink contains items you may not want to consume, doesn't address the original question. The original question is would such a drink count toward the daily amount of fluid one is supposed to consume. The answer simply is yes. Regardless of what else you put in there, it's still water. Now again, as stated before, the other elements added (sodium, coloring, sweeteners, etc) may have other impacts on your diet that you need to account for, but the question wasn't whether or not it was the same as water just whether or not it counts toward your fluid intake. The answer is, it does, and as I said before you do need to account for the things you've added to the water in your diet plan too.
  • Timkerbelle
    Timkerbelle Posts: 53
    I would most definitely not count anything with artificial sweeteners as water. For me "water" is about cleansing the body from junk, not adding it.
  • musica814
    musica814 Posts: 301 Member
    Of course love. Actually, a lot of the foods you eat have water in them that counts. Even a diet coke counts. But I'd recommend drinking as much as you are willing.

    Oh my god... sorry, but diet coke does not count as water,
  • efiorito1
    efiorito1 Posts: 2
    http://www.weightwatchers.com/util/art/index_art.aspx?tabnum=1&art_id=114&sc=3046

    "Up to half of your daily fluid intake can come from drinks other than water, such as milk, juice or herbal tea. Alcohol is not a good substitute, however. Like caffeine, alcohol in excess is a diuretic that robs your body of fluid. Try to limit your alcohol intake to one drink a day if you're a woman and two if you're a man."
  • efiorito1
    efiorito1 Posts: 2
    Also:

    Healthy Beverage Guidelines

    Drink Up, But Drink the Right Stuff

    http://www.sparkpeople.com/resource/nutrition_articles.asp?id=605
  • Liftng4Lis
    Liftng4Lis Posts: 15,151 Member
    Absolutely counts!
  • RHachicho
    RHachicho Posts: 1,115 Member
    Ignore the puritanical fussbudgets. It counts all right. They just wanna think they are better than you cos they don't take in "chemicals".

    Guess the next time they get sick they won't be needing any medicine huh.

    I mean it's got CHEMICALS IN IT DUN DUN DUUUUUUUUN!

    Chemicals != Bad for you.

    Also water is a chemical .
  • Palamedes
    Palamedes Posts: 174 Member
    I'm actually trying to work on keeping my hydration good, so I only count plain water in the 8 cups a day. After I get my 8 cups, I treat myself to a diet soda. I don't need to do this... I want to do it.
  • IronSmasher
    IronSmasher Posts: 3,908 Member
    Do any of you lunatics stop counting it as water as it mixes with you saliva, mucus and then stomach acid?

    You clearly don't know chemistry (H2O) so perhaps you learnt a little biology?
  • ChrisM8971
    ChrisM8971 Posts: 1,067 Member
    Becca you are correct - most doctors these days are refining their thoughts on intake of liquid to not just water. The idea is to flush the body, so fluids are fluids - keeping in mind that a coke is not very healthy because of the sugar content and a diet coke is just as bad due to chemicals. Make your choice.

    I think they are changing this to suit the desires of the clients. The first time I tried all of this, I tried to tell myself everything else counted too.

    Not this time, something clicked and now to me, water is water period. Clean and pure, Nature at it's best with nothign else to filter out.

    I would have to disagree with this...because my team of doctors have little to do with my desires...they are really about kicking my *kitten* and making me do it slow and right!

    This ^^^^^

    We drink fluids for hydration and not only do drinks such as coffee, tea, soda and even weak beers count but so do some foods

    There is a myth perpetuated by the bottled water companies about the number of litres you need to drink per day because it is good for sales (I believe it was Evian who initially came out with the so called report)

    Upshot is, if your urine is pale straw colour (not clear) then you are getting enough fluids, if its clear you might want to cut back and if its darker then drink more

    Oh and nutritionists pander more to their customers than doctors ever do but both can hang on to old outdated ideas as well

    If you want dietary advice use a Registered Dietitian
  • GiveMeCoffee
    GiveMeCoffee Posts: 3,556 Member
    If you add kool aid to your water it resurrects zombie threads
  • SonicDeathMonkey80
    SonicDeathMonkey80 Posts: 4,489 Member
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  • ChrisM8971
    ChrisM8971 Posts: 1,067 Member
    If you add kool aid to your water it resurrects zombie threads

    Where is the like button

    Caught out again :embarassed:
  • IronSmasher
    IronSmasher Posts: 3,908 Member
    Dammit!
  • richardheath
    richardheath Posts: 1,276 Member
    If you add kool aid to your water it resurrects zombie threads

    LOL! Awesome. But this is a topic that is never going to die...
  • sabolfitwife
    sabolfitwife Posts: 423 Member
    Everyone's view on this is different, in my opinion. To me, I count plain water, water flavored with Kool-Aid drops/Mio/other flavors, and tea as water intake. I log that in in my diary. Of course, I try to only drink plain water and save a glass of flavored for my dinner or when I'm really craving something else.
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