Abdominal
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lukejoycePT wrote: »The OP has told us that she is having trouble building abs, that her net calories are 542 and she has posted a pic of an extremely lean person. The numbers might not be 100% accurate, but the story is being told nevertheless and it is not a healthy one. OP if your net calories are 542, your body will be “eating” your muscles and you will not be able to build abs.
if OP didnt have abs then OP wouldnt be able to stand up straight.
yes your body eats muscle if you do not eat enough protein and use the muscle often, we all have abs. under our body fat. you just need a very low body fat in order to see it. Thats why they are so hard to achieve.
I don't debate that the OP may be under eating to build muscle but if the OP was in a defiict then they would have abs by now.
you are asuming that the tracking is accurate which it probably isn't.
if you eat in a deficit for long enough you will die. before that you will see your abs and then your bones and your spine.
I've seen at least one person die from being unable to eat/absorb nutrients while their muscles were breaking down and they became skeletal and there were no abs showing.
Even without going to that extreme, I have certainly seen pictures of VERY slim women without the really visible ab definition...presumably because they just eat so little but don't strength train, or strength train smartly.0 -
I strongly suggest an online search on how to photograph six pack abs.
There were at least a couple of interesting YouTube videos.
There were also predatory websites where plastic surgeons who remind me of the vet who didn't put a tourniquet on my bleeding dog till they had their $1,000 deposit sell abdominal etching surgeries4 -
I have posted and erased this several times the past couple of days.
MFP forums helped me achieve better health and I like to believe that I pay this forward by participating.
The picture shows a lean and healthy individual.
I don't see how attempting to lose fat to reach the stated goals will help improve this individual's health.
When goals start to conflict with health I know which one I believe should be chosen as a priority.
Yes. Let's not forget, there is a genetic component to 6 pack abs as well. I have seem multiple guys get pretty damn lean and barely have visible abs, but it is obtainable.1 -
OP if you're NETTING 542 calories, then you're likely not going to lose any more body fat. You NEED more calories than that daily just for the body to perform optimally. Eating this low and already being lean as you are is a recipe for killing your RMR. Now again that IS if your actually counting of calories is correct. And that's where honesty becomes imperative. Do you accurately count or wing it? Do you weigh for food for the most accuracy? Do you consider any foods "free" and not count them?
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Yep.I have posted and erased this several times the past couple of days.
MFP forums helped me achieve better health and I like to believe that I pay this forward by participating.
The picture shows a lean and healthy individual.
I don't see how attempting to lose fat to reach the stated goals will help improve this individual's health.
When goals start to conflict with health I know which one I believe should be chosen as a priority.
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I am the one whom wrote this post and I am blown away by everyone diagnosing me and stating I am unhealthy. I wish I could delete this thread! I never once said I had to loose fat nor loose weight! I simply asked for suggestions on how to make my abdominal area more pronounced and or certain foods! This thread is ridiculous to the people whom are judging me because I want defined abdominals. I’m actually deleting this community thing it’s crazy! Anyhow god bless and GOOD VIBES ONLY ...NO DRAMA !!!7
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Drama? The advice here was not that critical at all. But I digress. I KNOW how to get clients to show their defined abs. If you don't care for my advice, I'll stop responding.rebeccap2021 wrote: »I am the one whom wrote this post and I am blown away by everyone diagnosing me and stating I am unhealthy. I wish I could delete this thread! I never once said I had to loose fat nor loose weight! I simply asked for suggestions on how to make my abdominal area more pronounced and or certain foods! This thread is ridiculous to the people whom are judging me because I want defined abdominals. I’m actually deleting this community thing it’s crazy! Anyhow god bless and GOOD VIBES ONLY ...NO DRAMA !!!
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https://youtube.com/c/Pernillaschannel
Pernilla posts what she eats and how she works her abs to get that 6 pack. May not be for everyone, but you might like her channel.1 -
I wasn’t speaking to the people whom were helpful @ninerbuff I’m speaking to the woman to be honest with you and not the trainers that are woman the ones that are just very mean and I’m assuming miserable with themselves to diagnose me with being unhealthy! Why would you think I was speaking to you?2
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@DancingMoosie thabj you I will look at it now 😊0
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@DancingMoosie omg so I subscribed to her and havnt even looked at her exercises the first thing I went to was her food protein cheesecake SHUTUP I need to bake this!!! All her yummy recipes are insane!! 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼 Thank you ❤️1
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@showjeff 😌 thank you for understanding. Means a lot in a mean world sometimes. I just want advise on muscular abdominals. Some people on this thread were super helpful and others are just assuming other than that I did get quite a phew pointers. I think it’s from the excessive yasso yogurt pops I devour at night that are keeping fat over my abs as I learned from one person and I need to stop with the night eating on sugars 🤦🏻♀️😳1
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rebeccap2021 wrote: »@showjeff 😌 thank you for understanding. Means a lot in a mean world sometimes. I just want advise on muscular abdominals. Some people on this thread were super helpful and others are just assuming other than that I did get quite a phew pointers. I think it’s from the excessive yasso yogurt pops I devour at night that are keeping fat over my abs as I learned from one person and I need to stop with the night eating on sugars 🤦🏻♀️😳
@rebeccap2021 You are most welcome... I am laughing a little because I stay stocked up on Yasso bars.. They are so good! Got one in my diary today
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To the OP.. keep doing what you're doing. You look awesome!
The people who constantly post and reply (we all know who they are...) have missed their prime.. they probably wish they would have reached their goals much younger in life.. but you have!!
Trust me on this.. I've been here long enough to see them come and see them go.
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rebeccap2021 wrote: »I am the one whom wrote this post and I am blown away by everyone diagnosing me and stating I am unhealthy. I wish I could delete this thread! I never once said I had to loose fat nor loose weight! I simply asked for suggestions on how to make my abdominal area more pronounced and or certain foods! This thread is ridiculous to the people whom are judging me because I want defined abdominals. I’m actually deleting this community thing it’s crazy! Anyhow god bless and GOOD VIBES ONLY ...NO DRAMA !!!
I'd like you to try something. Go back and read all the posts after you said you didn't eat back your exercise calories, but this time read them with the understanding that people are concerned you are undereating and are concerned for your health.
Many of us have had periods of undereating, with unhealthy consequences.8 -
@jak1958 thanks so much! I’m strong willed and a spit fire 🔥 @kshama2001 I definitely am not going that far back. I’m all set with that lol.. also no I eat 1200 calories a day and I do not eat 300 calories or so that I burned off that would be ridiculous. But thanks for the concern.3
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rebeccap2021 wrote: »@jak1958 thanks so much! I’m strong willed and a spit fire 🔥 @kshama2001 I definitely am not going that far back. I’m all set with that lol.. also no I eat 1200 calories a day and I do not eat 300 calories or so that I burned off that would be ridiculous. But thanks for the concern.
Just so you know, there's nothing ridiculous about properly fueling your activity.5 -
@janejellyroll i love that profile name. Yes I do know that but that is just me that’s how I’ve been since my twenties. 😉😊0
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rebeccap2021 wrote: »@janejellyroll i love that profile name. Yes I do know that but that is just me that’s how I’ve been since my twenties. 😉😊
I respect that it's "just you," but since it's something that can interfere with your health and fitness goals, people are expressing concern. They're not creating "drama," it's concern for your wellbeing.7 -
rebeccap2021 wrote: »@jak1958 thanks so much! I’m strong willed and a spit fire 🔥 @kshama2001 I definitely am not going that far back. I’m all set with that lol.. also no I eat 1200 calories a day and I do not eat 300 calories or so that I burned off that would be ridiculous. But thanks for the concern.
Eating back the calories you burned is not ridiculous. You are already at a deficit with 1200, so to also burn an extra 300 puts you at net 900 calories. 900 calories is not healthy. It may be ok short term, but not long term. It can affect not only energy, hair, skin and nails, but your heart health. You only have one body. If you don't take care of it, where will you live?9 -
rebeccap2021 wrote: »Yes I do know that but that is just me that’s how I’ve been since my twenties. 😉😊
There's a real conflict in wanting to look like an athlete but not eating like an athlete.
What your goal needs is both low body fat and good muscle mass.
Time to reconsider if what you have done since your twenties is now compatible with your current physique aims.
As goals change methods have to change too.
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