75 Day Hard Challenge
Kevin_Hassenpflug
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Have you heard of the 75 Day Hard Challenge.
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These pictures provide an interesting overview.1
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I have not heard of this challenge. Couple observations upon reading the overview:
It appears to be a very prescriptive challenge, so I would expect that the strict adherence and restart requirements would mean that overall completions would be relatively low. In fact, VERY low.
Though it is very prescriptive about what to do, it is very vague about how to do it. For example:
"Follow a diet" with no additional guidance.
"Do two 45 minute workouts, at least 3 hours apart" What kind of workouts: strength, cardio? one outdoors:why?
The second point is concerning, since two workouts a day for 75 days in a row with no rest days is risky IMO. I see a high chance of injury here due to lack of recovery.
Maybe I'm missing the point, but I can't visualize what "success" would look like here, and I don't believe that the behaviors this challenge is trying to instill will be sustained longer term by users. There is no defined goal and no obvious positive feedback loop that creates a long term habit.
I would certainly like to hear other points of view on this one....3 -
Who can complete 2x workouts a day for 75 days straight?0
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AussieAdam21 wrote: »Who can complete 2x workouts a day for 75 days straight?
Not many people I know. I'm currently doing 3 swims, 3 bikes, 3 runs and a strength session every week (in 6 days), so I wouldn't meet the standard.
To me, the more important question is WHY do this? There is no outline, with no periodization around the efforts, no recovery built in, etc.
It is not a plan, just a vague demand.1 -
I know someone who did this. Or, at least she says she did.
She did it to improve her general discipline in her life. She's big on Discipline. She's also someone who says she hasn't eaten sugar or wheat in three years but she lives on oatmeal and fruit...so...1 -
Each to their own - might be something to provide structure for those stuck in lockdown (currently half of Australia...).0
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There's a FB group (and likely others) for 75 day medium. It's a little bit...less. One workout per day, eat in a deficit, etc. Might be a better way to start
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AussieAdam21 wrote: »Who can complete 2x workouts a day for 75 days straight?
That's why it is a challenge
I am thinking of doing - the exercise part - 45 minutes elliptical in the mornings and 45 minutes walk in the even starting September. The walk will be good for my mind, body and soul0 -
AussieAdam21 wrote: »Who can complete 2x workouts a day for 75 days straight?
Not many people I know. I'm currently doing 3 swims, 3 bikes, 3 runs and a strength session every week (in 6 days), so I wouldn't meet the standard.
To me, the more important question is WHY do this? There is no outline, with no periodization around the efforts, no recovery built in, etc.
It is not a plan, just a vague demand.
It is 100% not a good fitness development plan, that's for sure (based on what I know from my education for rowing coaching certification, plus other self-directed learning - I'm not a personal trainer).
It tells people to use some diet plan, as you say no real guidance.
I can understand the claim that its aim is to develop discipline. If that's what a person wants, and this way works, that's great. Go, them!
Personally, if I wanted to develop discipline, it would make more sense to me to pick a workout plan that would develop fitness well/sensibly for some sport I wanted to excel at (or a general basic cardiovascular/strength fitness plan), and an eating approach that would dial in nutrition-science-based excellent nutrition at goal appropriate calories, and be disciplined about following those. That takes pretty much the same amount of discipline, doesn't it?
Gallon of water is arbitrary. Too much for some, too little for others. Probably not enough to be injurious for anyone, admittedly.
Ten pages of reading daily is . . . a low bar, IMO. And read what? Anything? Hmm.
Some of the versions of this I've seen also prescribe daily cold showers. Why? Because it's hard.
Speaking as a aging-hippie hedonist retiree, I have no desire to develop discipline for its own sake. Plenty of things through life required discipline, and I exercised it when needful or even desirable. I'm sure others are in a different situation, and, as adults, can decide what they think will help them move forward.
I'd still recommend a serious fitness plan (vs. 2 x 45 minutes of whatever, one outdoors, every freakin' day), and a science-based nutritious diet, though. One could be achieving some other goals, in parallel with "discipline". 🤷♀️5 -
AussieAdam21 wrote: »Who can complete 2x workouts a day for 75 days straight?
My guess would be mostly people that use "workout" as a synonym for any kind of movement.
There's a lady in my gym who reads an ebook while walking very slowly on a treadmill - personally I would call that walking not working out but a bit like "cardio" is has a wide variety of usage.
OP - there are some seriously dumb tasks in that challenge, think you would do far better to set your own to get far more out of a more personalised and intelligent set of goals.
I (sort of) get the discipline aspect of this idea but you could have a discipline challenge AND get some real benefits from doing far more useful tasks.4 -
@Kevin_Hassenpflug I have not done 75 Hard Challenge, but I've watched a bunch of YouTube videos of those who have (and have not completed) the challenge. Definitely recommend searching up some videos for examples of people who have actually done the challenge.
I think there is a lot of misperceptions or assumptions about the challenge from the outset. As described above, it's more to gain self-discipline, and some grit, by adhering to these guidelines. It's not really meant to be a weight loss program as a lot people assume, but an all-transformation, habit creating challenge.
The two workouts don't have to be two super intense workouts. Most people seem to use one of their workouts to just take a 45min walk (since one of the workouts has to be outdoors). The diet guideline is purposely vague because the instruction is just to follow whatever diet you decide to do, whether you choose keto, or no sugar, or calorie deficit, do it for 75 days straight.
The reading is 10pages of any non-fiction and/or self-improvement book. And the other guidelines seem pretty self-explanatory (no alcohol, drink a gallon of water, progress pics, etc).
Some people are more motivated or focused when they participate in a challenge. And there are those who like harder challenges because they want to actually go through something and get through to the other side; I think it would feel like a great accomplishment! There are a lot of aspects of 75 Hard that I like (reading 10pages, having one of the workouts be outdoors), but ultimately, I haven't committed because I've already got a lot on my plate. But I can totally still do some of those things on my own as I think they would be beneficial.2 -
@Kevin_Hassenpflug I have not done 75 Hard Challenge, but I've watched a bunch of YouTube videos of those who have (and have not completed) the challenge. Definitely recommend searching up some videos for examples of people who have actually done the challenge.
I think there is a lot of misperceptions or assumptions about the challenge from the outset. As described above, it's more to gain self-discipline, and some grit, by adhering to these guidelines. It's not really meant to be a weight loss program as a lot people assume, but an all-transformation, habit creating challenge.
The two workouts don't have to be two super intense workouts. Most people seem to use one of their workouts to just take a 45min walk (since one of the workouts has to be outdoors). The diet guideline is purposely vague because the instruction is just to follow whatever diet you decide to do, whether you choose keto, or no sugar, or calorie deficit, do it for 75 days straight.
The reading is 10pages of any non-fiction and/or self-improvement book. And the other guidelines seem pretty self-explanatory (no alcohol, drink a gallon of water, progress pics, etc).
Some people are more motivated or focused when they participate in a challenge. And there are those who like harder challenges because they want to actually go through something and get through to the other side; I think it would feel like a great accomplishment! There are a lot of aspects of 75 Hard that I like (reading 10pages, having one of the workouts be outdoors), but ultimately, I haven't committed because I've already got a lot on my plate. But I can totally still do some of those things on my own as I think they would be beneficial.
You are exactly correct. The twice-day exercise; the Creator of this (Andy Fisella) stated that exercise can count as Yoga, stretching, walking, weight lifting, biking and the list goes on. I do my daily morning walk or stretching outside and then my evening weight/strength training, cardio or secondary walking.0 -
@Kevin_Hassenpflug - Did you end up trying it out?
I'm on Day 2. I always need something super rigid to get me back on track, and then I can ease in to doing a mellower version. Once I tell myself "I've got this" I usually don't, LOL. It's not much different than when I was doing really good and on track... I'd usually lift or do yoga, and then go for a walk to finish hitting my 10K steps as I have a really sedentary job. I normally average about 96-100 oz of water a day anyway, even when I'm totally off the rails, so adding that extra water isn't an issue for me. My diet I've chosen is to eat at my macros and avoid sugary treats, I easily read 10 pages of SOMETHING everyday, so making it non-fiction / self improvement isn't exactly a stretch out of my normal behavior and while I'm not exactly a selfie Queen, taking a progress picture is really not that big of a deal either. I gave up booze for 90 days last year as part of a healthy run, so another 75 will be fine. I would usually take one or two days to laze around ... but I think walking and some restorative yoga might be the ticket on what would normally be a "rest" day for me. I'm doing this not just for the weight loss, but because I really do need to shut up my *kitten* voice that tells me that I can't do things, or I don't have time, or I'm too old, too weak, etc. I'm hoping this helps me with discipline, so in the interest of NOT hurting myself, I'm not going to go all balls to the walls with the training portion of it, and I'm not doing a particularly restrictive diet.
I think it's going to be challenging enough to just learn to be consistent... and really IS 75 days that hard? We shall soon learn, and I will be back in here eating crow. LOL. In all fairness, they say like 98% of people fail it in the first go round. So whatever, at least I'm trying SOMETHING again before I go back to my original weight and gain all of my lost weight back. If you want to add me as a friend, I'm going to attempt to blog about it all - so come follow me succeed or crash and burn - HA!1
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