When can i have my cheat day
bananmz225
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It's been a week for me not eating junk food and any bad unhealthy food so i would like to know when i can take my cheat day or is it just a cheat meal?
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I prefer calling it a treat, not a cheat - you aren’t competing against anyone so you can’t cheat!
Losing weight is all about math, if you take in fewer calories than you expend you will lose weight. You can definitely eat enough in one day to wipe out your deficit for an entire week. So log even your “treat” meals and make sure you don’t do that. A lot of people plan to eat at maintenance calories for one day, which will slow loss but not reverse it, or they bank extra calories during the week and save them up for the weekend. However you want to do it, if the math works and it makes you happy in the long run.
There are no bad foods, just food that is appropriate for your body’s needs at any given moment. When I am running a long run I eat chews which are almost pure sugar, because that’s what I need right then. After you have gotten your daily nutrients, there is no extra credit for eating more broccoli. It’s okay to eat junk food sometimes, and in fact a researcher once lost weight eating nothing but twinkies just to prove he could do it. It’s all about the calories.7 -
I eat anything I want in moderation, staying in my calorie budget, paying attention to nutrient goals. It’s not cheating. Cheating implies doing something forbidden. It’s part of eating sensibly for me.6
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Not the best way to start out. As noted throughout this forum, this is calorie counting, not Atkins, Keto, Grapefruit, diet, etc. You count the calories of everything you eat all of which is entirely up to you. Concentrating on the "forbidden foods" and the "healthy foods" is what gets people here.3
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Calling it "cheat" is a bad idea. Who are you cheating? It's only yourself. If you go well over your goals and lose a lot of progress made during the week before, that's not cheating, that's just going backwards. I prefer to think of it as saving calories in the bank, then spending them if you choose, so it's important to continue tracking if you do that.
Unfortunately the very nature of certain foods make it easy to binge them, so it might be very easy to be say 250 calories under maintenance each day of the week until a "cheat day" where you blow through an extra 1,500 calories, and now you've just wiped out your progress for the week and you probably feel bad too.
That so-called Twinkies diet shouldn't be referenced. It was funded by Coca-Cola, which is basically them showing, "Hey you can still have our unnecessary sugary drinks while hitting your calorie goals!" Sure, if you starve yourself of something more nutritious instead. And I very much doubt his "diet" was sustainable longer term.2 -
I have gone from 190 pounds to 128 pounds.
I have eaten a candy bar or ice cream every day - by fitting them into my calorie allowance. I have had zero issues fitting those in, nor have they sacrificed any major nutrition goals. Ie: I'm still hitting protein and eating plenty of healthy food just fine.
I have also taken a week or two to eat at maintenance for every 10lbs lost.
I have also eaten what I wanted and as much as I wanted without tracking on: 1 long hiking trip, 1 trip to my mom's, 1 vacation, thanksgiving, christmas, and my birthday in the year I lost.
I have *also also* had the occasional 'screw it, life's complicated and I'm out running all day, dinner's just going to be what I can get in a drive thru' on a pretty regular basis.
What you do most of the time determines your weight. You do not need to be all healthy all the time to lose. You do not have to cut things out of your diet that you love. You just need to stay within your calories for loss MOST of the time.8 -
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wunderkindking wrote: »I have gone from 190 pounds to 128 pounds.
I have eaten a candy bar or ice cream every day - by fitting them into my calorie allowance. I have had zero issues fitting those in, nor have they sacrificed any major nutrition goals. Ie: I'm still hitting protein and eating plenty of healthy food just fine.
I have also taken a week or two to eat at maintenance for every 10lbs lost.
I have also eaten what I wanted and as much as I wanted without tracking on: 1 long hiking trip, 1 trip to my mom's, 1 vacation, thanksgiving, christmas, and my birthday in the year I lost.
I have *also also* had the occasional 'screw it, life's complicated and I'm out running all day, dinner's just going to be what I can get in a drive thru' on a pretty regular basis.
What you do most of the time determines your weight. You do not need to be all healthy all the time to lose. You do not have to cut things out of your diet that you love. You just need to stay within your calories for loss MOST of the time.
Congratulations on losing so much. Especially while enjoying those foods.
I've lost 116 pounds so far and I eat a dessert about 40% of the time. For awhile my mantra was:
Q: "What would you do for a Klondike bar?"
A: "Eat sensibly the rest of the day."
I do really like Heath or Mint Klondike bars. I'd eat about 1,500 calories then have a 200 calorie Klondike bar at the end as a treat.
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wunderkindking wrote: »I have gone from 190 pounds to 128 pounds.
I have eaten a candy bar or ice cream every day - by fitting them into my calorie allowance. I have had zero issues fitting those in, nor have they sacrificed any major nutrition goals. Ie: I'm still hitting protein and eating plenty of healthy food just fine.
I have also taken a week or two to eat at maintenance for every 10lbs lost.
I have also eaten what I wanted and as much as I wanted without tracking on: 1 long hiking trip, 1 trip to my mom's, 1 vacation, thanksgiving, christmas, and my birthday in the year I lost.
I have *also also* had the occasional 'screw it, life's complicated and I'm out running all day, dinner's just going to be what I can get in a drive thru' on a pretty regular basis.
What you do most of the time determines your weight. You do not need to be all healthy all the time to lose. You do not have to cut things out of your diet that you love. You just need to stay within your calories for loss MOST of the time.
Congratulations on losing so much. Especially while enjoying those foods.
I've lost 116 pounds so far and I eat a dessert about 40% of the time. For awhile my mantra was:
Q: "What would you do for a Klondike bar?"
A: "Eat sensibly the rest of the day."
I do really like Heath or Mint Klondike bars. I'd eat about 1,500 calories then have a 200 calorie Klondike bar at the end as a treat.
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To me, as an adult, "cheat days" or "cheat meals" are kind of like Santa Claus: An engaging myth, or a metaphor.
Some days I eat below goal calories (usually not by much), most days I eat close to goal, some days I eat over goal (on fairly rare occasions, waaayyy over calorie goal). Those are "choices", and over time they need to balance out to a sensible average level.
Nutrition, same deal: Very nearly every day, I meet my personal nutrition minimums (protein grams, fat grams, veggie/fruit servings). Once in a while, I'm under on one or another or multiples of them, but not all that often. (Over goal on nutrition is fine with me.)
I'm a firm believer that there aren't "bad foods" at an individual food level (other than poisons or allergens), but rather only bad overall ways of eating. A good overall way of eating can include some treats, processed foods, so-called "junk foods" or fast foods . . . and some of those even have meaningful amounts of useful nutrients. In reasonable portions and frequencies, they can be part of an overall healthy way of eating.
It doesn't help me to frame my thinking about eating is if it were a melodramatic battle between good and evil, "healthy" and "cheating". It's just food, gotta combine it over time in ways that hit a reasonable average calorie level, reasonable average nutrition intake; are tasty, practical, etc. . . . it's more like a fun game. (Are you old enough to remember Tetris? Probably not.)
I'm concerned that you may not be setting yourself up for long-term success, frankly. IMO, it's not a good plan to treat weight loss as a project with an end date, involving self-denial of desired foods, restrictive eating rules, possibly sessions of unpleasant/punitive exercise, etc. . . . which will all end at goal weight, when things "go back to normal". That's been the formula for life-long yo-yo weight, for quite a few people.
Better, IMO: Experiment, figure out some eating & activity/exercise habits we can maintain long-term, ideally permanently, that are relatively easy, relatively enjoyable, very practical and sustainable, and practice those habits until they're grooved in as normal behavior, ideally durable through easy and tough life phases alike.
Me, I'm in year 5+ at a healthy weight, after around 3 previous *decades* of overweight/obesity. My routine these days involves eating a small bit under maintenance calories (like 100-150) most days ("calorie banking"), in order to have a more indulgent meal or day less frequently. Treats get fit in on a lot of routine days, in reasonable portions at reasonable frequencies. Works for me, generally.
I'm not saying this is The Only Way, because we all need to figure out what works for us individually, what fits best with our individual preferences, strengths, limitations. But, after watching people here for the 6+ years I've been using MFP, I'm skeptical about the success odds for the "healthy/cheat" duality approach. YMMV.3 -
wunderkindking wrote: »I have gone from 190 pounds to 128 pounds.
I have eaten a candy bar or ice cream every day - by fitting them into my calorie allowance. I have had zero issues fitting those in, nor have they sacrificed any major nutrition goals. Ie: I'm still hitting protein and eating plenty of healthy food just fine.
I have also taken a week or two to eat at maintenance for every 10lbs lost.
I have also eaten what I wanted and as much as I wanted without tracking on: 1 long hiking trip, 1 trip to my mom's, 1 vacation, thanksgiving, christmas, and my birthday in the year I lost.
I have *also also* had the occasional 'screw it, life's complicated and I'm out running all day, dinner's just going to be what I can get in a drive thru' on a pretty regular basis.
What you do most of the time determines your weight. You do not need to be all healthy all the time to lose. You do not have to cut things out of your diet that you love. You just need to stay within your calories for loss MOST of the time.
Congratulations on losing so much. Especially while enjoying those foods.
I've lost 116 pounds so far and I eat a dessert about 40% of the time. For awhile my mantra was:
Q: "What would you do for a Klondike bar?"
A: "Eat sensibly the rest of the day."
I do really like Heath or Mint Klondike bars. I'd eat about 1,500 calories then have a 200 calorie Klondike bar at the end as a treat.
Mint Klondike bars are DEFINITELY one of the things I'll eat sensibly the rest of the day for! They're my favorite.
But yeah, I knew going in I was not giving up the little pleasures in my life and one of those - not the only one but one of - is a 'treat' in the evening of some stripe. Most of the time for me that's an ice cream bar (the real stuff) or a reese's cup or a 3 pack of godiva dark salted chocolate or - whatever. Keeps me sane.3 -
I'm usually not as good on a weekend, I still calorie count but don't stress too much if I go over slightly. But being good through the week I feel allows me that little treat on a weekend.0
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Currently I’m exploring foods that are consider “cheat, junk” foods that add to my health goals and are nutritious. Examples: high protein Bootalious muffins; air “fried” onion rings soaked in Silk Milk and coated with almond flour; air popped popcorn flavored with cinnamon, monk fruit sugar, and sugar calorie free caramel syrup. It has completely eliminated cravings and it has been a lot of fun!
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When I'm trying to lose weight I don't do "cheat" meals. Instead, I eat at maintenance for a day. So if I'm usually eating around 1,200 calories a day, but my TDEE is 2,000 calories, I'll try to stick with that. It's great because 1), eating at your maintenance won't mess up your weight loss. All you'll do is MAINTAIN. 2) It teaches you how you should be eating when you are ready to quit losing weight and just maintain it for awhile.0
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It is best to not plan to regularly overeat. Stay with your plan and when you DO overeat (we all have those days) just log it and move on. If you know a special day is coming up, like Thanksgiving, birthday, family get together, etc., many will eat towards the lower end of their target range in order to "bank" extra calories.0
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Echoing many of the posts above - don't do a "cheat"
Things that work for me:- Plan the things you enjoy (and are not willing or able to give up) into your diet. Eat accordingly.
- Plan your meals in advance and how much you can have that day so by the end of the day you know what you have coming.
- Track every lick, nibble, and bite - especially for calorie dense foods - for example, I am not as concerned about a few extra grams of a fresh vegetable as much as I am for a few extra grams of pasta or butter. Regardless, track every single thing to the gram for awhile to get a truly honest picture of your intake.
- If there is something special coming up, I can either try to bank calories to help, or I just plan on it being a zero loss week. Sometimes that is worth it, but I think it's very important to still track these days until you realize just how quickly you can consume a ridiculous number of calories - restaurant foods are harder as they load them with butter, sauces, etc that can be hard to just estimate...but chances are, it's worse than you think or they advertise.
I enjoy a glass or two of wine or a beer with my dinners - so I plan accordingly. If I chose to have a bigger lunch or an extra snack during the day, then I know I need to cut that out for the night to make my goal (hence the planning ahead).
It's also very, VERY easy to mindlessly eat more than you "planned" - so for anything that comes in a bulk format (like chips for example) weigh out the portion you plan to eat into a separate dish, and leave the bag behind.
I will PLAN a day to not track, but if I'm consistently tracking, I try to reserve that for very special occasions (such as Thanksgiving or Christmas). And to be fair, last year all through the Christmas holiday I was doing a challenge (75 Hard) and had to track everything AND stay in my calories, and it really wasn't bad at all - I still got to enjoy all the things, just not in the quantities I normally would have - but I didn't miss out!1
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