Would you consider non-invasive body contouring to get rid of stubborn fat?
JolieSvelte
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Last July I was at the lowest weight I had been in about 5 years, around 140 lbs. This was after I lost about 44 lbs over the previous 10 months.
I didn't realize it until I took pictures of myself wearing a bathing suit top, but in the pictures I noticed that below my ribcage my stomach mushroomed out at the sides in what I supposed you would call a muffin top. Everywhere else, I was pretty happy with my body. But the excess fat on my love handles and the little pooch right below my belly button really bothered me.
Now that I have to lose all that weight again (after having put it back on in the past 6 months) I realized that once I reach goal weight I'm probably going to be in the same boat.
A few years ago I watched a Youtuber who shared her results from CoolSculpting, and recently I've been researching other forms of non-surgical, non-invasive forms of getting rid of excess fat in specific areas that won't go away with diet and exercise alone.
Here is a brief description of the various procedures available on the website of the American Board of Cosmetic Surgery:
https://www.americanboardcosmeticsurgery.org/procedure-learning-center/non-surgical/fat-reduction/
There is one procedure that looks especially promising, and its called BodyTite. Different from CoolSculpting, it uses radio frequency to kill fat cells AND tighten the skin back up.
Because I've gained and lost weight so many times in the last 15 years, I'm concerned about loose skin.
I read one website that says CoolSculpting can be between $2000-$4000, and I looked at one plastic surgeon's website and she charges $4,500 for one area of the body and $3,500 for the second area for BodyTite. That's $8,000 for 2 areas.
This is not the kind of money I have lying around to spend on vanity. I would have to save up for a significant amount of time if I were really serious about this, at least in my current circumstances.
My question to the group is, is this kind of cosmetic procedure something you would consider and spend a lot of money on to get rid of the fat that just won't going away, even after you've reached your ideal weight/size/measurements? Do you think it's worth it? I have no doubt that these things work - I've seen the before & after pictures. It's a matter of how much having the "perfect" body is worth to someone. If you get to your ideal size, is that excess fat going to stick in your craw and make you so self-conscious about it that you would spend between $2000 and $8000 to make it go away?
I'm just curious about how people feel about this in general, and sharing that to me, it might be worth it, provided that I wouldn't have to struggle to afford it.
Your thoughts?
I didn't realize it until I took pictures of myself wearing a bathing suit top, but in the pictures I noticed that below my ribcage my stomach mushroomed out at the sides in what I supposed you would call a muffin top. Everywhere else, I was pretty happy with my body. But the excess fat on my love handles and the little pooch right below my belly button really bothered me.
Now that I have to lose all that weight again (after having put it back on in the past 6 months) I realized that once I reach goal weight I'm probably going to be in the same boat.
A few years ago I watched a Youtuber who shared her results from CoolSculpting, and recently I've been researching other forms of non-surgical, non-invasive forms of getting rid of excess fat in specific areas that won't go away with diet and exercise alone.
Here is a brief description of the various procedures available on the website of the American Board of Cosmetic Surgery:
https://www.americanboardcosmeticsurgery.org/procedure-learning-center/non-surgical/fat-reduction/
There is one procedure that looks especially promising, and its called BodyTite. Different from CoolSculpting, it uses radio frequency to kill fat cells AND tighten the skin back up.
Because I've gained and lost weight so many times in the last 15 years, I'm concerned about loose skin.
I read one website that says CoolSculpting can be between $2000-$4000, and I looked at one plastic surgeon's website and she charges $4,500 for one area of the body and $3,500 for the second area for BodyTite. That's $8,000 for 2 areas.
This is not the kind of money I have lying around to spend on vanity. I would have to save up for a significant amount of time if I were really serious about this, at least in my current circumstances.
My question to the group is, is this kind of cosmetic procedure something you would consider and spend a lot of money on to get rid of the fat that just won't going away, even after you've reached your ideal weight/size/measurements? Do you think it's worth it? I have no doubt that these things work - I've seen the before & after pictures. It's a matter of how much having the "perfect" body is worth to someone. If you get to your ideal size, is that excess fat going to stick in your craw and make you so self-conscious about it that you would spend between $2000 and $8000 to make it go away?
I'm just curious about how people feel about this in general, and sharing that to me, it might be worth it, provided that I wouldn't have to struggle to afford it.
Your thoughts?
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I wouldn't do it. That's a lot of money for a temporary fix for something that isn't that important to me. I don't expect to have a perfect body and wouldn't spend a lot of money to attain one.
You might do better to get a fitness coach to help you create workouts that will help tighten up your body and build muscle so you have a body you are proud of even if it isn't perfect.8 -
When CoolSculpting first started advertising, I thought it had to be a scam. After a little research I was astonished to learn it’s not. It doesn’t remove fat, though. It damages fat cells whereupon the contents circulate and are either used for energy or stored in fat cells elsewhere. Some customers have complained about unnatural/uneven fat pockets because of how fat redistributed. My impression is losing a few more pounds would have a more aesthetic result.
Liposuction seems scary, but at least it actually removes fat. Have you priced that?3 -
Not sure about the long term efficacy or safety of the procedure, but I would say to give yourself at least a year maintaining at your goal weight and tightening up as much as possible in that time before taking extraordinary costly measures.
I don't believe there is any virtue in avoiding such procedures. I myself am planning a mini facelift after maintaining my weight loss for at least a year. I will be happy to spend big bucks to look better and tighten the loose skin under my chin and along my jowl line.
Why wait a year? Because after a year or more of maintaining at goal, I will be pretty sure that I can keep my weight off. What would be the point of spending all that money just to gain all that weight back? I'd be essentially throwing all that money away!
So I would recommend getting really good at maintenance while exercising to tone the areas that trouble you. After a year at your goal weight, some if not most of the loose skin will probably tighten pretty well with exercise. You've lost 44lb., not 144lb - so the odds of toning that up naturally are pretty good. If not, after a year of maintenance and your best toning efforts, by all means get a little extra help.
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Would I do it? Hard no. I could afford it. I'm not wealthy, but I'm sure I've spent a total of $8000 over a period of years on discretionary items, so I think I could save up discretionary money and get there. But I wouldn't.
If I wanted to, I think I could achieve most of what something like Coolsculpting would accomplish via recomposition, and the later would have the plus of leaving me stronger and healthier, whereas the quasi-medical approach would - at best - leave me cuter. It would take more time and work, but less money.
I'm not particularly appearance motivated, so I wouldn't have a reason to do something just to be cuter.
If I'm unsatisfied with myself, feel lesser, because of my appearance (or other factors), experience suggests that looking better via a procedure like this (or an equivalent quick fix appropriate to whatever factor was involved) wouldn't actually change the core problem of thinking I'm not good enough.
The same person, with the same psychology, is in the body. If self-critical, the tendency to be self-critical lives on through many interventions that change the features that that self criticizes. If I'm struggling with self-acceptance, I'm more likely to get results by working on self-acceptance directly - again, I'm saying that from experience.
Things that I work to achieve (not just pay money for) are more likely to improve my sense of self, anyway. Accomplishment feels empowering, can improve my self image. I can't think of anything I've ever purchased that improved my self acceptance.
On top of those reasons, I don't like optional medical-ish procedures. I've avoiding them on multiple fronts. Looking at the general question of medical or quasi-medical interventions, the history over decades, many of them have turned out to have unexpected side effects, or negative follow-on consequences long term. I don't need that.
I'm not saying I'd never do any plastic surgery or any appearance-modifying procedure, ever, under any circumstances. Probably if I had a disfiguring accident, I'd take advantage of plastic surgery to look more normal. But when already looking average-ish, I don't think I'd go for interventions to pursue some supposedly closer-to-ideal look. (Heck, I didn't even have reconstruction after bilateral mastectomies.)
As you've no doubt gathered, I'm an older woman. Some of my friends have had various procedures, mostly various tightening and youth-ifying interventions. There's only one whom I think looked good, natural, perhaps better than before. Others mostly looked . . . well, different, but kind of "worked on", though often they thought they looked better, I guess.
So, no. But that's just me, what I think, how I know myself.
If you want to do something like that, can afford it, go for it. Make a list of pros and cons, weigh the balance of those for you. If you were my friend, I'd support your decision. There's no reason, IMO, for you to seek some kind of community consensus about whether this is a good thing or not, based on whether other people would do it. (It may make sense to ask if anyone's had it done, and how they felt about the results - which is a different question than you asked, as I read it.)
P.S. I don't believe before and after photos, mostly, either. Most parties that want to show them to you, are going to want to show you the very best results . . . and some will even use tricks of pose, lighting, and maybe even photoshop as part of the sales job. For something major, I'd be seeking out actual people who had the procedure, talking to them, seeing their results . . . and looking for some "not so happy" ones, if they can be found.
As a breast cancer survivor, I've seen photos of reconstruction that were put out by plastic surgeons, and I've seen quite a few actual women who've had reconstruction, either in person or in photos under different circumstances. I'm not saying the average result looked bad or wasn't worth doing, but the photos shared by surgeons were absolutely the top-echelon version of results, not necessarily typical.
To me, a procedure like this is a pretty big deal, and that kind of thing - talking with actual experienced people - is what I'd want to do if I were hiring a contractor for a significant home remodeling project: Not just looking at shiny photos, but wanting to talk to the people whose homes were worked on, seeing the work in person if I could, etc.
P.P.S. FWIW, my loose skin kept shrinking for a long time after I reached goal weight, even at age 60+ . . . . well into year 2 at a healthy weight, at least. Big improvement, in some areas. I'd suggest others give that part some time, before resorting to expensive interventions. IMU, some plastic surgeons will even require that kind of wait, or close (not to see if the surgery's unneeded, but to get the best possible results).12 -
A model sued because she had these procedure and said adverse effects made her gain lots.of fat and she has been unable to.model for years, it's supposedly and adverse effect to the procedure. Buyer be wary read the small print.
If I.wasn't to.scary and broke I'd do everything, boob lift, tummy tuck, lipo. I'm really to old to care at this point 50 ish,
I'll just continue to exercise.
But please do thorough research not just price, but make sure it's a legit doctor, license, follow up care, procedure in a hospital not somewhere suspect. To many deaths from people taking short cuts, cheap route, fake practitioner, my neighbor flew from California to Florida for a tummy tuck, she seems fine looks great far as I can see, but I.know.she.did.it that way to save.money, risky.
Wish you well, not trying to.scare you.😉3 -
My advice? Start saving now. Get back with your healthy eating and re-lose the weight. Find some exercises you actually like so you'll be more apt to stick with it.
Then when you reach goal, use your saved money to go on a nice vacation.
I haven't read up on this but I've heard enough about 'do it this way or that way' and everybody's trying to sell you their product or service. I don't believe pictures, they can be magically worked to produce magnificent results. I've also learned it takes effort and work on our part to get closer to the results we want to achieve.
Hula hoop exercises are supposed to be good for our middles.
Wishing you good luck!!
These thoughts and this advice comes from someone who's tried so many diets and gimmicks out there.6 -
No I won't. And I say this as someone who had lipo on the inner thighs. To remove a whole herd (or flock?) of lipomas caused by a horse accident many, many years ago that were annoying me. Basically I had the chose between just having them cut out and then accepting lots and lots of scars and irregular holes, or paying and having it done half nicely. So yeah, when I stand it looks great. But you can see that I had something done in certain circumstances, like laying on a sunbed with the knees up. The skin will adjust to a certain extend, but might not. I would do this again because I could not stand with the legs half together, but would not chose a purely cosmetic procedure. I would chose a piece of clothing that fits properly and doesn't create a muffin top to start with, and work on a good posture - that means strength training also focussing on the core and back, and on stretching those muscles that are shortened from sitting too much. The effect of those alone can be quite astounding.8
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IF you've done everything you can.........and that can be subjective to each individual so I'd get an outside professional opinion...... then there's nothing wrong IMO to get help to remove certain fat from areas that are hard.
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JolieSvelte wrote: »
Because I've gained and lost weight so many times in the last 15 years...
If your weight hasn't settled in a steady place over the years (mine never has) I'm not sure these procedures are a good use of your energy and resources.
But more important than that, I think that you look awesome in that profile picture and you're kinda' asking about help you really just don't need.
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My issue with cool sculpting is that it's very expensive for fairly unpredictable results. If I were to medically remove fat, I would opt for liposuction, which in many cases can be done with just local anesthetic, which is much safer than general anesthesia.
Cool sculpting theoretically works, but how well for the individual is a huge question mark. I'm friends with a few plastic surgeons and asked them about it and they basically said that it's not usually offered in plastic surgery clinics because they can do lipo, so why would they offer something that after several sessions costs as much and doesn't work as well. It's mostly offered in clinics that can't offer lipo because they don't have a qualified surgeon on staff.
That said, I do know some plastics clinics that offer it because they also have a medical esthetician on staff, and that way they attract both types of patients, the ones who want more assured results and the ones who want less invasive treatment and are willing to pay for something that may give really suboptimal results.
Would I do it for myself? You bet, but I would do liposuction. I have really annoying fat pockets around my inner knees that are there no matter what my weight is, but they're small enough to do with just local anesthetic. I've had so many major surgeries in my life that a little local and some superficial cannulation doesn't scare me in the least and barely counts as surgery in my books. Honestly, getting adult braces was worse than a bit of knee lipo would be. I won't bother now though because I have multiple leg/knee surgeries, which are going to hack up and scar the hell out of the area.
I'll probably get a plastics friend in a few years to do some scar revision once I'm all done because the orthos tend to hack everything up and not care what it looks like, so when I get the train wreck of scar tissue fixed, I'll get them to lipo at the same time.
As the person above said though, lipo isn't perfect either, it usually shows some signs of having been done. The broader the area being lipo'd the harder it is for the results to be smooth in the end. It really is best for specific, stubborn little pockets of fat that are kind of in the wrong place, as opposed to trying to trim an entire area. So my little inner knee fat blobs are ideal for lipo, but a flatter abdominal area might be very difficult to get smooth. Don't forget too that removing fat makes the skin looser, so having less fat can actually make "muffin top" worse because the skin smooshes around more, whereas fat can smooth it and plump it out.
I would say that for the abdominal area, any option is going to be unpredictable, and if you did go ahead with treatment, I would ONLY do it with a practitioner who is very honest about realistic about your results. If you get any messaging like "you will be so happy with the results" then run, don't walk to the next practitioner who is more realistic and honest and can talk you through what your best options really are.
This is why I generally prefer plastic surgeons. At least where I live, they're all about setting realistic expectations, whereas the medical estheticians who have done weekend courses here and there have been taught everything they know about their treatments *BY THE COMPANY THAT MAKES THEM*. Don't ever forget that little scary fact.
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I had liposuction done on my upper and lower abdomen about ten years ago. I waited until I was down to my ideal weight. Although I have put weight back on, my stomach still doesn't look half as bad I know it would luck just going by the way the female members of my family look with excess fat on their lower abdomen. I had what's called Smart Lipo where they numb you with lidocaine. It was painless although I did have some issues with one of the sites healing correctly. It's a tiny bit rippled and I feel like I look better in clothes rather than out, but all in all I'm happy with it and don't regret it.3
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I've had CoolSculpting, and for me, it was worth it. I had a very odd pouch of fat right around my belly button - even the specialist I met with said they had never seen anything like it. I did 3 sessions on that area, and it definitely worked for me.
The thing is, it only works if you are already at the weight you want to be AND CAN MAINTAIN, and you have a very specific localization of fat. There are plenty of shady specialists out there who will do the procedure even if you're not the ideal candidate, so if you do decide to go this route take your time, do A LOT of research on specialists, read reviews, and meet with them more than once before committing. And definitely don't do it if you're not otherwise happy with where your at, and know you can maintain.2 -
Perhaps I'd consider it AFTER:
1. I'd maintained my goal weight for two years
2. I'd tried body recomposition3 -
I had a CoolSculp about 5 years ago. I made it after I was at very low body fat, around 14%. The only fat I could not removed was on the inner thighs of my legs. So only one session of the CoolSculpt made my legs smaller about 2sm in the places where I expected. I spent only $1000 on sale for one session. The results were not immediate though. I was waiting to develop it for about 6 months. The main thing in this procedure not to gain weight back. Keep your weight at the same level, or otherwise, all your fat cells come back on the same place where you had them before. That happened to my girl friend. She lost weight temporarily 15 lb. Then she spent $11000 on the procedures: CoolSculpt and liposuction. But she could not keep weight off, she gained it back even higher. Unfortunately, all her forms returned, and she looks now even worth than before.
In addition, pleese, be as active as possible, do your leg exercises regularly, develop and keep your muscle tone at the best, eat less carbs and keep cellulite away.1
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