is being vegetarian healthier?

fruittart7
fruittart7 Posts: 20
edited October 2 in Food and Nutrition
is it healthier to be a vegetarian?
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  • I was watching a show on it and it said they're depressed because they don't eat meat..even if they take vitamin d. Thought about it..ALLLLL of my vegan and vegetarian friends are on antidepressants.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,990 Member
    You'll get subjective viewpoints. I know vegetarians who are fat and eat french fries, chips, and fried foods. No meat, but they still eat some foods that don't help with keeping them thinner or healthier.
  • Tattoos_and_Tea
    Tattoos_and_Tea Posts: 529 Member
    Not necessarily :-)
  • LATeagno
    LATeagno Posts: 620 Member
    No. Most of the vegetarians I know are busy eating soy meat substitutes. Natural is better. Natural fat, natural protein, natural carb... all in moderation.
  • sarah_ep
    sarah_ep Posts: 580 Member
    I was watching a show on it and it said they're depressed because they don't eat meat..even if they take vitamin d. Thought about it..ALLLLL of my vegan and vegetarian friends are on antidepressants.

    I find this very silly, no offense. I know many who aren't on antidepressants and show no signs of depression.

    To the OP, it's all relative. Just because you are a veggie doesn't mean you are more healthy or thinner. It's all about what you eat. My boyfriend used to be a vegetarian several years ago and ate nothing but bean tacos.
  • SquishyVicki
    SquishyVicki Posts: 280 Member
    I was a vegetarian for almost 20 years and started to eat meat again a few years ago. Personally I feel a lot healthier now as I have more energy and generally feel better. When I was a vegetarian I was constantly battling with protein and iron deficiencies which left me feeling drained.....

    I think it's different for different people and you just need to find what works for your body.
  • snailrunner
    snailrunner Posts: 215 Member
    I've been vegetarian for 27 years and have never been on antidepressants. Even when I went through a prolonged and horrific relationship break-up I don't think I was depressed...I just looked forward to a better future.

    I have my moments when I eat cr*p, but I try to focus on eating mostly unprocessed foods, which is something anyone can do whether vegetarian or not.
  • karenwill2
    karenwill2 Posts: 604 Member
    it depends on the person. Being a vegetarian requires more than a health goal. It is a commitment to not eat anything that has a face. Mr Rogers was a vegetarian and not a depressed person at all. I have tried that life for health and it was okay but I love meat. I like to eat chicken, pork and cow. Fish are fair game too. The most important thing is to learn how to eat and satisfy yourself while maintaining a healthy weight.
  • It depends on the food choices you make. If you're loading up on carbs, then no. But if you are eating the right good carbs, lots of fruits and veggies, beans, legumes then yes it can be. Do some research on the contents of your meat. Chickens are twice the size they used to be 25 years ago because of the use of the steroids and are also PUMPED FULL of antibiotics. This is pretty much ALL meat companies. Perdue being the dominate one. Ground beef is rinsed in an ammonia wash to wash it of bacteria. Its really gross what they do to meat before we get them. Everything is genetically modified. You do not need meat to live. The fats alone in animal flesh are no good for humans. This also includes dairy products. Cows milk is not made for humans. It's made for...Ready? BABY COWS. Meat also degenerates the bones. The best thing I ever did for me and my family is stop eating meat and starting to cut off dairy products too.
  • A well balanced diet is the key to happiness through health
  • Totally depends on what they eat. Everyone has a subjective opinion unless you are a research scientist who's done the work. Read The China Study and find out why being vegetarian or Vegan is healthier. The key is to make sure you are getting all the right nutrients for your body. After reading the China Study and work from the Hippocrates Institute in Florida, I am moving to become vegetarian as a minimum. I may quite possibly become a Vegan. We'll see. It's also not something you should try to do overnight. I think you have to work your way into it slowly to make sure you are getting the right nutrition. Meat isn't necessary though.
  • shesonic80
    shesonic80 Posts: 13 Member
    I went vegan for about 6 months in an attempt to lose weight. I really lost weight fast and i felt good but it was hard for me too. i had to give up a lot of the things I liked. I went back to my old ways and of course put the weight back on. But I have had a lot of trouble with dairy items since. I also had a lot of trouble properly digesting meat again when I started ti eat it again. I lost a lot of the enzymes and things I needed for nutrition, I found out. Now I'm trying to lose weight gain. But this time I'm not giving anything up. I'm just using moderation and better judgment. That's what I like about this site.
  • fteale
    fteale Posts: 5,310 Member
    I think the average vegetarian eats a lot more healthily than the average omnivore. If only because we have less scope to eat junk without the McDonalds/KFC fast food thing to tempt us.

    However, it is perfectly possible to be a healthy meat eater and equally possible to be an unhealthy vegetarian.

    In general I would say simply making the decision to be vegetarian or vegan usually means you are thinking more about nutrition than the average person.
  • I think it depends on the individual. My sister has been a vegetarian for about 20 years and never craves meat. I run a fairly strict no-meat, no-meal policy. Our mum reports that my sister was never interested in meat when she was a littlun and apparently I loved it!

    Some people don't seem to be unwell without it, but I think I'd start to feel pretty crappy if I removed it from my diet. I don't think anyone can make sweeping generalisations.
  • I think it depends on the individual. My sister has been a vegetarian for about 20 years and never craves meat. I run a fairly strict no-meat, no-meal policy. Our mum reports that my sister was never interested in meat when she was a littlun and apparently I loved it!

    Some people don't seem to be unwell without it, but I think I'd start to feel pretty crappy if I removed it from my diet. I don't think anyone can make sweeping generalisations.

    P.S. sorry for the duplicate post!
  • pander101
    pander101 Posts: 677 Member
    I was watching a show on it and it said they're depressed because they don't eat meat..even if they take vitamin d. Thought about it..ALLLLL of my vegan and vegetarian friends are on antidepressants.

    This is not true at ALL.Whatever show you were watching doesn't have good sources.

    As for being healthy, no they are not healthier. Meat eaters and non-meater eaters can both be healthy or not healthy. It depends on what you take into your body. There are healthy and unhealthy choices for both. I have never had a problem with a lack of protein or any vitamins also. Neither do my vegetarian friends. So it's really about WHY you want to be a vegetarian. Shouldn't just be for weight loss.
  • I was a vegetarian for almost 20 years and started to eat meat again a few years ago. Personally I feel a lot healthier now as I have more energy and generally feel better. When I was a vegetarian I was constantly battling with protein and iron deficiencies which left me feeling drained.....

    I think it's different for different people and you just need to find what works for your body.

    On the flip-side, I was a pescetarian for the first thirteen years of my life, and then ate other meats for five, and in that five years, I gained a great deal of weight and was very unhealthy, I think probably both because my body didn't like the other meat and because I wasn't eating healthy in general. It's going to depend on if you eat healthy no matter what. You can eat healthy whether you're vegetarian or not.

    As an aside, I've never had a problem with protein or iron deficiencies, and as a pescetarian I ate seafood seldomly enough I think it wouldn't impact that.
  • It's all about what you're eating! As a two year vegetarian, I can definitely say that you can still eat crappy food--cakes, too much pasta, cheese (moderation is key). However, becoming a vegetarian made me love many more vegetables than I used to, and has really helped me make healthier choices.

    Being a vegetarian doesn't equate healthiness, but it's a great tool if you want to take advantage of it. If you're going to be denying yourself and you're going to cry every night because you can't eat chicken, then it's not for you. The point is that I DON'T want to eat beef or chicken or any of that stuff anymore, not that I CAN'T. :)
  • silkysly
    silkysly Posts: 701 Member
    idk..., I'm a meat-etarian & i'm pretty happy about it! :o)
  • DaniJeanine
    DaniJeanine Posts: 473 Member
    Recently, a lot of research has pointed toward eating a Mediterranean for the best effects of overall health. It's a diet rich in veggies, whole grains, olive oil, fruit, fish (about 3 serving per week), with limited amounts of white meat (1x/week) followed by very limited amounts of red meat (1x/month). Sweets and processed foods also fall into the "very limited" category. It also promotes drinking 1 (not more!) 4oz glass of red wine per day. If you Google it, you can find lots of info on the research and dietary recommendations. Eating this way promotes a balanced, healthy lifestyle without major sacrifices or omissions of a particular food group. Hope this was helpful and good luck!!
  • Fairysoul
    Fairysoul Posts: 1,361 Member
    If you eat right, it is definately better, I reccomend you watch Forks over knives, it gives you a better perspective on that!
  • rebeccask
    rebeccask Posts: 140 Member
    It depends. A vegetarian diet can be french fries, cheese sandwiches and ice cream or it can be homemade black bean burgers, salads, stir fries, etc. Your options are endless and it's easy to be a healthy vegetarian, just do your research. It's about variety. My diet consists mostly of legumes, beans, vegetable and fruits...I don't eat many meat substitutes because they're all processed and no good for you. Check out nomeatathlete.com
  • There are benefits to both. I personally am a vegetarian (for 15 years), and I'm quite happy with it. Vegetarians can have a harder time getting adequate nutrition, which is why you'll see so many unhealthy vegetarians. I would advise avoiding all refined soy products; I don't consume any processed food at all - only whole foods. I do consume some raw whole milk dairy, eggs, and fish oil supplements (I'm ovo-lacto veg), but no meat. My diet consists in large part of vegetables, fruits, nuts, seeds and legumes. My decision to not eat meat came in childhood, because I have simply never liked it - there are no ideological or moral reasons for my choice. Basically, vegetarianism is not a catch-all for healthiness - you can be just as unhealthy as a vegetarian as you can as a meat-eater. However, if done properly, vegetarianism can be an extraordinarily healthy and rewarding way to go. I have tons of energy, and I feel great.
  • thibautseeker
    thibautseeker Posts: 69 Member
    I'm not a vegetarian because I still eat fish but I made a decision not to eat 'meat', as per BMD says the steriods and also hormones being fed to the animals.

    I don't know about vegetarians all being depressed????? If you go by strict yoga belief they say that when you eat meat and fish you are ingesting the fear and pain of the animals suffered at the time of killing and I can see the logic in that.
  • LisaMarieee
    LisaMarieee Posts: 176 Member
    It depends on the individual and whether or not they're a junk food vegetarian or a vegetarian who eats a balanced diet.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,990 Member
    Totally depends on what they eat. Everyone has a subjective opinion unless you are a research scientist who's done the work. Read The China Study and find out why being vegetarian or Vegan is healthier. The key is to make sure you are getting all the right nutrients for your body. After reading the China Study and work from the Hippocrates Institute in Florida, I am moving to become vegetarian as a minimum. I may quite possibly become a Vegan. We'll see. It's also not something you should try to do overnight. I think you have to work your way into it slowly to make sure you are getting the right nutrition. Meat isn't necessary though.
    But the China study wasn't done by a scientist but a nutritionist researcher.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,990 Member
    Again a subjective subject. Since genes and family history play a part in disease, then even the staunchest vegetarians can still have higher risk for cancer and heart disease than some you eats meat daily. I eat a lot of meat and have a great track record of health compared to some vegetarian friends I know.
  • bobbybdoe
    bobbybdoe Posts: 472 Member
    Nope. You may have a way lower caloric intake, but most people can't go without most forms of meat. Plus, the body gets deprived of the most essential nutrients without meat. Most people couldn't switch to a vegetarian lifestyle without constant lethargy and starvation. How some people manage it is beyond me. xD
  • TK421NotAtPost
    TK421NotAtPost Posts: 512 Member
    Totally depends on what they eat. Everyone has a subjective opinion unless you are a research scientist who's done the work. Read The China Study and find out why being vegetarian or Vegan is healthier. The key is to make sure you are getting all the right nutrients for your body. After reading the China Study and work from the Hippocrates Institute in Florida, I am moving to become vegetarian as a minimum. I may quite possibly become a Vegan. We'll see. It's also not something you should try to do overnight. I think you have to work your way into it slowly to make sure you are getting the right nutrition. Meat isn't necessary though.

    Did you read the part in the China study where smokers lived longer than non-smokers?

    PS, there is a reason why epidemiological studies should be taken with a grain of salt. There is a reason that most of the author's claims in this study are not published within the peer-review process...Most researchers have recognized the fallacy of this highly biased study.

    Also, did you read the part where animal protein, fish protein, meat intake, saturated fat, and fat calories consumption were all negatively associated with all-cause mortality in infants, children, teenagers and adults?

    No statistical significance was found for heart disease and cancer with total protein, animal protein, fish protein, meat intake, milk intake, saturated fat, total fat, fiber, legumes, etc., well, you get the idea.

    No, I guess you probably couldn't have read all that since you probably only read what Campbell published and didn't go through the actual data that he collected. Similar to Gary Taubes, the author of the China study decided to selectively cherry-pick his research to justify his pre-fabricated hypothesis. He just did in the opposite direction of Gary Taubes.

    With that said, some of the comments I've read here about how vegetarians tend to get depressed are LUDICROUS. All things being equal, for overall health, there are a ton of merits with being a vegetarian.
  • Adynata
    Adynata Posts: 128 Member
    I was watching a show on it and it said they're depressed because they don't eat meat..even if they take vitamin d. Thought about it..ALLLLL of my vegan and vegetarian friends are on antidepressants.

    Wow, that is both one of the most ignorant and potentially offensive things I've read on these boards in a while. Congrats, you win the prize.

    I don't know why, because it probably shouldn't, but it still amazes me how many people will spout all sorts of crap about "you can't get all the nutrients you need." And don't even get me started on the "but it's unnatural!" argument. Don't post your completely inaccurate statements without doing the tiniest amount of bloody research, please.
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