Skinny Fat to Fit (Life Goal)
Timpolemistis
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Hi! I'm 19 and skinny fat. I'm 6'2 and around 220. I have no access to the gym so I'm stuck with calisthenics which I'm not crazy about since I feel it's a lot harder. Anyways I have three questions, 1. Is the calorie calculator on here accurate since I feel 1600 is WAYYY too little for someone like me, 2500 was always ideal for weight loss from other calculators? And 2. How long will it take me to get to 185 if I'm consistent? Also, does the calculator include muscle gain? I don't want to reach my goal but end up being a stick. Thank you in advance to whoever can respond to my questions! Reaching 185 right now is my biggest goal right now and means everything to me. I'll finally be confident in myself since I'll be happy with myself and it's a feeling I've never felt before so I'm beyond excited! The app also says ill lose 20lbs by mid July so if that's true then
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You can Google body weight exercises...I think "Convict Conditioning" is one. Lots of ways to increase muscle without lifting actual weights, just using your body weight and gravity.
As far as calories...1600 does sound low. Did you set it to "Lose 1 pound per week" and set your "Activity Level" as accurately as you can based on the choice it gives you? This site calculates differently than other sites, too. It expects you to add-in extra calories (in the Exercise tab) when you do it. Other calculators just factor in your exercise.
Here's the explanation: https://support.myfitnesspal.com/hc/en-us/articles/360032625391-How-does-MyFitnessPal-calculate-my-initial-goals-
(Go to the actual link I posted just above to see the links referenced in the following article)How does MyFitnessPal calculate my initial goals?
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You don't have to use 1600. You can set your own calorie goals if you already know what you need. Just go to Goals.
Other than that, we all have to run the calorie experiment. I'd pick something like 2500 and do that for a month and see how it goes - then adjust if needed.1 -
Yeah, as a fellow skinny-fat kid, I'd say you probably want to set your own calorie goals, especially because you're actually looking to recomp your body and not to necessarily lose weight. I'm really steady on my weight but my BF% can vary and my "fit at 125lbs" looks VERY DIFFERENT from my "fat at 125lbs".
Another good place to look up body weight circuits and training tips is Darebee.com (a lot of the Daily Dares are great for just throwing some extra movement into your day).0 -
Sometimes you have to just feel out the calculators. I dropped 7 pounds the first week of my diet....this week I don't use to feel out the accuracy of the calculator because most of the is water weight. After that is when I start feeling out the calculator....how do I feel? Am I dizzy? Tired? Ravenously hungry? Or do I have energy and feelings of well being? Also am I dropping more or less than 1-2 pounds a week? If I am dropping more than 2 pounds, then my calorie deficit is too low. If I am dropping less than 1 pound a week, then my calorie deficit is too low or nonexistent. It is going to take you a few weeks to figure out your body needs. Calculators can only do so much. Computers and human "experts" don't know every human body on the planet. This is when you become an expert on you. What food make you feel good physically while you still lose weight. Now, as for how long will it take you...That depends on if you lose a lot of water weight in the first week and then what your weight loss goal is...1 or 2 pounds a week. I calculate by using my goal. I am 29 days in, started at 217 at 5'7" female. The first week I lost the 7 pounds and I have lost about 2 pounds a week since. The second week I lost a bit more so I recalculated my calorie deficit. I have lost 15 pounds in 29 days. I expect a slower weight loss thus next month...no more than 8 pounds. Weight loss slows a bit as you weigh less because you burn less calories. As this happens, you might have to readjust your calorie deficit but do not ever go below the lowest healthy calorie intake for your height. I actually wrote down a weekly goal weight and am checking them off as they come. I surprised myself with being ahead of goals. Pay attention to getting adequate protein intake if you don't want to lose muscle mass in this process.0
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Man , I wish I can edit my last comment. It is a mess. Hopefully you get where I'm going with it.1
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Timpolemistis wrote: »Hi! I'm 19 and skinny fat. I'm 6'2 and around 220. I have no access to the gym so I'm stuck with calisthenics which I'm not crazy about since I feel it's a lot harder. Anyways I have three questions, 1. Is the calorie calculator on here accurate since I feel 1600 is WAYYY too little for someone like me, 2500 was always ideal for weight loss from other calculators? And 2. How long will it take me to get to 185 if I'm consistent? Also, does the calculator include muscle gain? I don't want to reach my goal but end up being a stick. Thank you in advance to whoever can respond to my questions! Reaching 185 right now is my biggest goal right now and means everything to me. I'll finally be confident in myself since I'll be happy with myself and it's a feeling I've never felt before so I'm beyond excited! The app also says ill lose 20lbs by mid July so if that's true then
May I quibble, in a technical sense?
At 220 and 6'2", you're at a BMI (body mass index) of 28.2. In the standard technical terms, that's not skinny fat (a synonym of "skinny fat" is "metabolically obese normal weight" or MONW; or "normal weight obesity"). The overweight BMI range is 25–29.9. You're overweight, technically. Not normal weight (which would be below 195 pounds). Not skinny. I grant that men can be healthy at somewhat higher BMIs . . . but.
I don't mean to be harsh. Think of me as your over-blunt internet granny (I'm old enough) who actually cares about you, would like to see you thrive.
Because you're not massively overweight, plus you're young and male, you'd be an excellent candidate to gain muscle mass while slowly losing body fat. Set up your eating goal for half a pound a week loss, 1 pound at the absolute outside. (Yes, that's slow. Slow fat loss increases odds of muscle gain, and you're of the prime sex and age to gain muscle. Exploit that while you can - it's time limited.)
If you can't find a way to lift weights, then bodyweight exercise (which is not exactly calisthenics, technically) is indeed your good starting point. Despite the title suggesting otherwise, you can find recommended bodyweight exercise programs in this thread:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10332083/which-lifting-program-is-the-best-for-you/p1
That will work for a while. Meanwhile, look for a gym you can access and afford, to lift; or look on Craigslist or whatever for weights you can afford (people should soon start selling off the equipment they optimistically bought during pandemic lockdowns, I suspect).
Don't worry about speed of progress. Think about optimal results. Your most remarkable physique results are likely to lie in the direction of slow weight loss, and as much muscle gain as you can harness while still-young and male.
Yes, 1600 calories seems low. Cmriverside gave you good advice about that. Set yourself up for slooooowww fat loss (that half a pound a week), and I'll bet you'll get more calories. Log your exercise calories on top of that, as she (and MFP!) suggested. Exercise, especially strength exercise. Get enough protein (at least 120-150g daily**, and more up even over 200g won't hurt you as long as you don't have pre-existing kidney disease or something), plus good overall nutrition (eat some healthy fats, get your fruits/veggies). If, after 4-6 weeks, you're losing faster than your target rate, eat more (using the 500 calories daily = 1 pound per week rough estimate).
** Evidence based source here: https://examine.com/nutrition/protein-intake-calculator/
You're in the perfect position to get some amazing results, if you take a smart approach. Wishing you success!5 -
The phrase "skinny fat" is misused about 90% of the time!
At 220lbs you are not remotely skinny so don't set off on the wrong path trying to fix a problem you don't have. Under-trained or under-muscled is not the same as skinny.
1. Is the calorie calculator on here accurate since I feel 1600 is WAYYY too little for someone like me, 2500 was always ideal for weight loss from other calculators?
It's because you are choosing an aggressive rate of loss you get a far too low a calorie target. Yes the calculator here is as accurate as all the others but as it excludes exercise you need to factor that in. If you want a true comparison set both kinds of calculator to weight maintenance and add your weekly average exercise to the MyFitnessPal number.
Yes 2500 may well be a decent start point whether that's 2500 every day or MyFitnessPal's variable daily goal that adds up to 2500 x 7 averaged over the week doesn't really matter.
2. How long will it take me to get to 185 if I'm consistent?
Depends on the size of your calorie deficit but the quicker you aim for the more you compromise your chances of getting to 185 AND having the physique you desire at the same point.
3. does the calculator include muscle gain?
Not really sure what you mean here? Exercise is part of your calorie needs and adding muscle is a metabolically demanding activity but just adding a few pounds of muscle makes very little difference to your daily calorie needs. It's using your muscles that is the potential big calorie burner. With caveat that weight training itself is a low calorie burn rate.
Good news!
At 19 and with plenty of fuel stored you are primed to add muscle the quickest and easiest you ever will. Even with sub-optimal training your progress will outstrip anyone that has been training for a significant number of years. You can negate that advantage though by going for rapid weight loss.
Do the right things (moderate deficit, consistent training primarily) and you will get the right results - but maybe not as fast as you would wish.
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As at the very least two posters above you have indicated, you are a prime candidate for increasing muscle and reducing fat. IF you train hard. IF you eat smart. IF you take advantage of age and hormones!
BUT: You don't fire and forget muscles! Woohoo. I look good. Girls/boys come on down. I never have to exercise again.
Just saying that finding something to DO with the muscles so that you keep on either training or just making good use of them after you're at your perfect weight... is good. And yes, if competitive bodybuilding is your thing that's fine. Even the training itself can be your goal. Some of the more difficult progressions are major goals and commitments off and by themselves. But move towards ADDING reasons for keeping up with exercise and muscles beyond "just" losing weight and looking good for a vacation/special event.
It's great that the selections you made in the app created a situation where you would be attempting to lose 20lbs by June. But if you follow through with that the one thing you WON'T do is create good preconditions for building muscles. Absolute optimal muscle growth involves an energy surplus. Your current condition (sufficient stored energy) is the next most optimal one. Take advantage of this. But plan on spending a year or two.
If you're not willing to spend a year or two... well then, think twice.
I'm serious and maybe a bit of a *kitten*. But a LARGE NUMBER of people here on MFP start their yo-yo dieting lifetime by going for quick diets and quick results when they were in their late teens and early twenties.
Don't be one of them *or one of us*. Tackle the problem, tackle it well and smartly, tackle it "permanently". Be patient and appreciate what your body can do for you!1 -
Correction : not necessarily a year or two losing the initial 35lbs but definitely the better part of a year losing it, and then landing at your magical weight and then continuing to be just as mindful if not more than you were while losing in order to maintain.
At least the same amount of time as your were losing. Look up the statistics on rebound regain within six months to two years of weight loss.
You're attempting a 16% of bodyweight reduction. Spend 32 to 40 weeks to get there and another 64 to 80 maintaining and you will be in good shape. Get too flush with success and pay no attention much before that and the same hormones that are going to
help you build muscles today are going to do their best to *kitten up* with your success.2
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