FAT FREE/SUGAR FREE CAN = CRAVINGS

CoachNYLA
CoachNYLA Posts: 129
edited October 2 in Food and Nutrition
One of the things that really give me points to ponder is when they advertise "Fat Free/Sugar Free" food products. But if you look and read the labels, they replace the fat with more sugar and flour in most. THE VERY THING THAT IS THE CULPRIT FOR FAT STORAGE - INSULIN SPIKES. Insulin can be a fat storing hormone if one constantly eats flour products.

Believe it or not, fat is not usually what makes you fat, it is the constant insulin spikes in the blood that are trying to metabolize the sugar coming into the system and when there is an over abundance, the over spill goes right into your fat cell.

I have learned over the years as a recovering food addict, that sugar, wheat and flour are my set ups. These are the symptoms I get when I have eaten those products:

- Cravings, constant
- Depressed, enducing lack of motivation and mood swings
- Bloated and weight gain
- Irritable with mini tantrums
- obsessed about what I will eat next and when

NOT ONLY DOES "FAT FREE" MEAN MORE SUGAR AND FLOUR IN THE PRODUCT BUT IT CAN ALSO MEAN "SUGAR ALCOHOLS" IN THE PRODUCT.

Another addicting substance that I have experienced.

Believe me, having 1-4 tbsp. of olive oil a day in my food plan is much healthier than trying to go for "fat free" but with all the hidden sugar and flour loads.

Today, I am emotionally balanced (no trantrums-LOL), I have a healthier outlook on my body image and I am not stuck to the mirror nearly as much, if any and I don't obsess over the next meal or fantasize about binge foods.

There is an example of how I have learned to clean up my chemical dependancy on the sugar and flour where I posted my Apple Pie recipe to share with others for the holiday season.

Changing my food options and learning on what food products help me to reduce cravings and addictive behavior has changed my life and I will tell you that it is not deprivation. In fact, my family likes my flour and refined sugar free apple pie better than the sugary floury option at the holiday season.

The bottom line I had to learn is READ THE LABEL, especially when it's say FAT FREE OR SUGAR FREE.

Nyla

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  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    "THE VERY THING THAT IS THE CULPRIT FOR FAT STORAGE - INSULIN SPIKES"

    so would advise against ingesting lots of protein, as that is highly insulingenic as well?
  • cheddle
    cheddle Posts: 102 Member
    very informative - thanks for the share :-)

    Ive also head that some certain artificial sweeteners are metabolized in the body into simple-carbohydrates, even tho in a "calorie" test they show nil the body has a way of extracting nutrition from it, thus defeating the reason for having the "sugar replacement"

    and most other artificial sweeteners can cause problems relating to hormones/insulin resulting in problematic hunger control I.E: diet coke makes you hungry...


    so ive heard...
  • cheddle
    cheddle Posts: 102 Member
    "THE VERY THING THAT IS THE CULPRIT FOR FAT STORAGE - INSULIN SPIKES"

    so would advise against ingesting lots of protein, as that is highly insulingenic as well?

    insulin spikes also result in nutrients being "driven" into muscle tissues assisting in repair.

    hence post-workout protein is best accompanied by a nice "spike" from honey or chocolate milk

    at the end of the day... calories in < calories out
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    "metabolize the sugar coming into the system and when there is an over abundance, the over spill goes right into your fat cell. "

    curious as to how much an over abundance is for de novo lipogenesis to occur

    "hence post-workout protein is best accompanied by a nice "spike" from honey or chocolate milk "

    except even in absence of CHO, protein is insulingenic
  • cheddle
    cheddle Posts: 102 Member
    "metabolize the sugar coming into the system and when there is an over abundance, the over spill goes right into your fat cell. "

    curious as to how much an over abundance is for de novo lipogenesis to occur

    "hence post-workout protein is best accompanied by a nice "spike" from honey or chocolate milk "

    except even in absence of CHO, protein is insulingenic

    whats "de novo lipogenesis"???

    sugar/fat/protein - similar result... nutrients in body -> nutrients turned to "energy" -> "energy" in blood -> insulin response -> excess "energy" stored
  • CoachNYLA
    CoachNYLA Posts: 129
    "THE VERY THING THAT IS THE CULPRIT FOR FAT STORAGE - INSULIN SPIKES"

    so would advise against ingesting lots of protein, as that is highly insulingenic as well?

    I think it is a great question. I don't advise on anything just my experience and the study of nutrition for 19 years as a trainer and a person with food addiction.

    I do know for myself that when I was competing, there were definatley times I over spilled on the protein and I had to be careful on my ratios for the intake. An easy thing to do when you are 4 weeks out.

    but again, I don't know exactly on where the over spill goes. Message me if you find out....I would like to know.
  • CoachNYLA
    CoachNYLA Posts: 129
    "metabolize the sugar coming into the system and when there is an over abundance, the over spill goes right into your fat cell. "

    curious as to how much an over abundance is for de novo lipogenesis to occur

    "hence post-workout protein is best accompanied by a nice "spike" from honey or chocolate milk "

    except even in absence of CHO, protein is insulingenic

    whats "de novo lipogenesis"???

    sugar/fat/protein - similar result... nutrients in body -> nutrients turned to "energy" -> "energy" in blood -> insulin response -> excess "energy" stored

    That's it!!! Lipogenesis...I could not remember the name. But I do know that the muscle only store so much, where the rest goes, don't know.

    Nyla
  • Grokette
    Grokette Posts: 3,330 Member
    "THE VERY THING THAT IS THE CULPRIT FOR FAT STORAGE - INSULIN SPIKES"

    so would advise against ingesting lots of protein, as that is highly insulingenic as well?

    You are very correct. My doctor advised me on a high fat, moderate protein, low carb to level out blood glucose and to stop the insulin roller coaster.

    This has gotten me off the high blood pressure meds and the diabetes meds even though I have not lost nearly all my weight at all.
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    "whats "de novo lipogenesis"??? "

    it's the process in which the body turns CHO into fat.
  • AdAstra47
    AdAstra47 Posts: 823 Member
    "THE VERY THING THAT IS THE CULPRIT FOR FAT STORAGE - INSULIN SPIKES"

    so would advise against ingesting lots of protein, as that is highly insulingenic as well?

    Sorry, that's not true.
    I have hyperinsulinemia; my body does not process insulin well at all. So I have to severely limit my carbs (fewer than 25 per day). The chemical reaction that creates energy from carbohydrates or sugars requires insulin, so I have to avoid those things. But I can have all the protein I want: the chemical reaction that creates energy from burning fatty acids and amino acids (protein) is completely different, it doesn't involve insulin. My doctor told me to make sure and eat at least 50g of protein every 3 hours while I'm awake, so that generally works out to 300-350g of protein a day for me.

    "Calories in / calories out" works for most people, IF their bodies are equally efficient at processing diferent types of calories. BUT not all calories are created equal. The calories from fat and protein and sugar are all processed differently in your body, using different chemical reactions. So if your body is less efficient at processing one kind of calorie, then the whole "calories in / calories out" thing just simply will not work for you, and you have to pay attention to WHAT you eat, rather than how much. Took me 20 years of frustration, working really hard, working out, and staying under my calorie limits and still gaining weight, before I finally met a doctor who was willing to help me figure this out.

    I agree with the original post: by watching my carbs & sugar, I've been able to lose weight for the first time in my life. It has cured my depression and mood swings, cured my food cravings, and given me energy. So I find it very frustrating when I'm looking for, say, yogurt, and everything out there is "low-fat" or "no-fat" yet has high levels of sugar & carbs. Your apple pie recipe sounds wonderful! Thanks for sharing!

    To add to the original post, here is a great explanation of the science involved, by Dr. Mary Vernon, president of the American Society of Bariatric Physicians:
    http://www.diabetesnewsstand.com/vissue/vernon/titlepage.html
    Also check out the documentaries "Fat Head" (available on Hulu or Netflix) or "My Big Fat Diet," and the book "Good Calories Bad Calories" by Gary Taubes.
  • tosh32
    tosh32 Posts: 2
    Hi Nyla great post, I too have those problems with sugar and carbs. I had gystric bypass and they made us get rid of many carbs and sugars; however being 5 years out the cravings came back and I am now suffering through. I have a very busy life style with a 2year old, 11year old full time job and husband.

    Because of the cravings and mood instability I just do have the energy to focus on myself. Any suggestions?
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    "But I can have all the protein I want: the chemical reaction that creates energy from burning fatty acids and amino acids (protein) is completely different, it doesn't involve insulin"

    so insulin is not secreted after ingesting protein?

    when fed isocalorically in identical amounts, which results in the lowest insulin spike, white pasta, cheese, beef or fish?
  • 4theking
    4theking Posts: 1,196 Member
    I think this is one of the benefits of doing intermittent fasting. Low insulin/blood sugar levels for the majority of the day. With steady blood sugar/fasting, more growth hormone is released. During your feeding window, insulin is raised in combination with having a high level of growth hormone, resulting in a high level of IGF-1. Insulin growth factor is a powerful anabolic/fat burning agent.
  • CoachNYLA
    CoachNYLA Posts: 129
    Re: Spike meals or as they call it in BB and Figure - cheat meals. Been there, done that 6 day, one spike split. Works for some but as for me, hmmm yeah, got me to a show but you can't live in shows....unless I am backing that up with the heavy training, I am toast.

    Burn out is not for sissy's trying to get back.

    Hard, fast and now....well, the get off point is short lived if you know what I mean.

    Finding the cadence, now that's for people with commiment and staying power.

    The come here go away is for runners that can't stay put.

    If I lost you, well....I guess you would have to be a muscle brat to understand. LOL
  • lyngordon42
    lyngordon42 Posts: 22 Member
    just started reading the The China Study: The Most Comprehensive Study of Nutrition Ever Conducted And the Startling Implications for Diet, anyone read this?
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