Anorexia and other disorders

mamabearr
mamabearr Posts: 304
edited October 2024 in Health and Weight Loss
What do you do when you come across someone on this site that is openly going about losing weight the wrong way? It breaks my heart, and I know anything I'd say wouldn't help. But what also doesn't help is having a bunch of other MFP friends rooting them on and congratulating them for burning 600 calories that day when they only ate 300.

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  • ahadj
    ahadj Posts: 257 Member
    defriend them.
  • godroxmysox
    godroxmysox Posts: 1,491 Member
    I would express your concern to this person and if they get upset or delete you because of it, at least you know you've tried to do the right thing.
  • ladybg81
    ladybg81 Posts: 1,553 Member
    I've had some as my "friends" as well and once I saw how they lived, I either unfriended them or took them off my news feed so I didn't have to be sickened about it.
  • shawnscott5
    shawnscott5 Posts: 295 Member
    Ouch, that's a tough one. So sad that people do that to themselves.
  • nkziv
    nkziv Posts: 161 Member
    I have encountered this same problem... It depresses me to see it, but I guess you just have to accept that as someone with no physical contact with that person, there's really nothing you can do. The best thing would be maybe to suggest therapy, but I know that's not guaranteed to send a strong message either... it's sad.
  • Grimmerick
    Grimmerick Posts: 3,342 Member
    it's harsh but it's darwinism, they won't listen until they are ready and if they never get there then they get weeded out by survival of the fittest and most intelligent............hopefully they wise up and get help but if not, well it takes all kinds in the world right.
  • I totally agree with you on this - and have actually made the decision NOT to comment on those individual's posts. It is so scary to see this, these people really need some loving encouragement to seek treatment - NOT burn even more calories. I hope that these folks will get the help that they need and that maybe they can even find someone on this site to bring the issue to their attention and lead them down the right path. I know I have a friend that watches my diary and will let me know if he thinks there is a problem brewing. That is the definition of real friendship to me. :)
  • mandemonious
    mandemonious Posts: 217 Member
    I have a couple of these folks, but they are not advocating eating disorders, they are legitimately suffering with it. I, too, get so angry when people say "good job" and "wtg" blindly to people. Make sure you know what sort of behavior you are verbally rewarding and therefore reinforcing....if people don't have time to know if the person who lost .5 lbs has anorexia and say "fantastic," perhaps they have too many friends.

    But I'm not going to defriend someone because they are ill. They are here for support just like everyone else, its just a little different than what most people fee comfortable with. Sometimes its too much for me. Somehow I feel like that is my problem, not theirs.
  • redefiningmyself
    redefiningmyself Posts: 476 Member
    People have a right to live their life the way they choose, even if its a dangerous choice - its still their right. We don't have to agree with it, or support it. So for me, I leave it alone. Its not my place to do anything about it unless I'm actually asked for advice, then I'll share my views.

    Also, I keep my "friends" to people who are actually trying to lose weight by what I consider to be healthy means. That way I don't have the stress of watching people starve themselves and watch others root for them while feeling helpless to help them.

    Afterall, I'm here to improve my health. I only have control over me, and its not my place to push my beliefs onto others.
  • If it was someone I knew in IRL, I'd probably talk to them until they shunned me. With random internet people, I just quietly remove them from my list.
  • Zeromilediet
    Zeromilediet Posts: 787 Member
    Feel the same way ... I used to try to gently point out their approach was inconsistent with their goals but have realized people have entrenched ideas about what they believe works, and, maybe I misunderstand their goal ... perhaps it's his/her objective to punish themselves.

    Everyone is different, and I wonder sometimes, who am I to say anything? There will always be those who will cheer on destructive behavior for reasons I can't fathom. There's internet forums encouraging various eating disorders, desperate people considering suicide, and teens pushed into self abuse by internet cheerleaders. These are the same people shouting at the guy on the ledge to jump. Sad and it sucks.
  • jmruef
    jmruef Posts: 824 Member
    I've got friends on MFP with eating disorders that they're trying to overcome. I've been very public about the fact that I've overcome anorexia/bulimia, so if I can offer support in that regard I'll do it. If I see someone eating dangerously low calories, though, I'll say something to them. I figure they asked me to be friends with them to support THEM, not their eating disorder.
  • ilookthetype
    ilookthetype Posts: 3,021 Member
    it's harsh but it's darwinism, they won't listen until they are ready

    As a girl with an ED history this is absolutely true. I won't be friends (on MFP) with someone who is not trying to deal with their ED and who are content to live with it, I can't be friends with a person like that, it puts me at too great a risk. it's your call. Tell them you're worried their not eating enough/being healthy and you don't want them to think you approve.
  • ivyjbres
    ivyjbres Posts: 612 Member
    People with EDs still need support. Maybe not the support they want, but they still need support. Maybe cheer them for working out; that's always good for you no matter how much you eat. Maybe remind them that muscles recover best from a hard workout with a 100 calorie snack?
  • SimplyShanRunning
    SimplyShanRunning Posts: 885 Member
    I have an ED....Maybe try PMing them see if they want some support....It is true...Until they are ready to deal with it on their own they won't But also negative and hurtful feedbad does nothing but make it worse....It is a tough situation....Some people just find they can be friends with a person wtih an ED....Its your choice.....but yes sometimes its hard to watch
  • Emme727
    Emme727 Posts: 92 Member
    When I was a teenager, I suffered from anorexia. It wasn't until a coach refused to let me run until I gained weight. I began to eat and was allowed to compete. However, I never dealt with the root of the problem. I have been yo-yo dieting for the last 20 years -- either through starvation tactics or over exercising (an numerous other ways to cut my caloric intake). It was my 13 year old daughter who pointed out that I still suffer from anorexia. How sad is that? It was my daughter and partner who showed me concerns about my eating habits and pointed out that it was unhealthy. I was ready to hear it and respond. Would I have been a few years ago? I don't know.

    20 years later, I finally acknowledged that I have an ED and have decided to join MFP in order to: 1) lose weight (seriously, but my goal weight is realistic for my height and in the normal range), and 2) to monitor my exercise and caloric intake. I have monitored elsewhere in the past, but the 500-700 calories I consumed a day were only fueling my desire to be thin (and frustration that I wasn't losing enough). Now I monitor to be certain that I eat enough calories while attempting to lose weight in a healthy manner (exercise and 1500+ calories a day). I exercise and watch my caloric intake so that I can be healthy. Of course, my metabolism is so messed up now.... and I struggle to get enough calories -- I am so used to eating very few calories a day that eating over 1000 calories is difficult. But I watch and continue to add meals.

    There are some of us with ED that are here to be healthy (but sometimes slide into unhealthy habits or struggle to eat enough). I would voice concerns about the caloric intake -- maybe a seed will be planted.
  • Lozze
    Lozze Posts: 1,917 Member
    I will always try and comment on a loss, but never comment on food diaries. I can't view them on my phone so I don't want to inadvertently compliment bad behavior.

    I have some friends who are struggling, at both extremes but I'm there to help them and hopefully give good advice when they ask.
  • charcharbec
    charcharbec Posts: 253 Member
    I know this is kind of late.... but I am totally one of those 300 calorie a day eaters and there was a time when I was starting that I didnt exactly realize that what I was doing could harm myself. And when I did, I made my diary private. I didn't want people knowing how bad I actually ate--- meaning, how little I ate.... I am trying (like learning to accept my weight only as a number) to be more open about my behaviors and let people know that I do NOT advocate for actually eating how I do. I always told myself that I had the mindset of an anorexic even though I was overweight. I was already terrified of food. I was terrified of putting it into my mouth. I figured the moment I ate something I would gain weight. And then after a trainer of mine told me to cut calories to between 600-800 and I went even farther than that..... and started dropping so much. I don't know... it just escalated. However, I personally have been talking to another trainer about increasing my calorie intake.... and I am terrified of doing it.... but alas doing it even if it is slow. I mean there is part of me that cant WAIT to eat more. Like to go out to a restaurant get something healthy and Vegan/Vegetarian... and actually not be afraid to clean my plate..... or even go out to breakfast with my girlfriend and get more than a cup of oatmeal... or get a cup of oatmeal and still be able to eat the banana that I asked for with it. I long for those days. Anyway--- I think we are in a community of people who want to be supportive and to be supported that sometimes we dont look at the persons diary. Personally--- part of me is ashamed to have my diary available to my friends now.... but I know, just like when I started telling people my weight over and over..... that its the only way to get better and to get healthier.
  • ILiftHeavyAcrylics
    ILiftHeavyAcrylics Posts: 27,732 Member
    I have a couple of these girls on my friends' list. Personally I figure if they're anorexic, their thinking is disordered and I can't really help them with that, me not being qualified. I don't think badgering them is helpful. So I express concern once in awhile in a private message, and then I focus on complimenting the positives. Like if someone normally eats 400 cals and I see a 900 calorie day I'll say "I'm glad to see your numbers up today." If you can't handle it though, they're already in bad shape and don't need the negativity, so it's probably better to just defriend them. I agree I hate seeing people saying "wtg!" on a 300 or 400 cal day, but you can't control other people, just yourself.
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