Why Am I Not Losing Weight?

I put on ~20 pounds or so during the pandemic. It was partially due to not tracking calories (one less stressor I needed at that time), eating and drinking alcohol a bit too much, and being a less active.

I've been trying to get back to my pre-pandemic weight, and it's been a struggle.

My current weight is 165 pounds. It would be nice to get back to 140 - 145 pounds. My main goal is to mostly be able to fit back into some of my pre-pandemic clothes, now that I'm going out a bit more. I'm 41, and 5'6". Another issue - I'm hypothyroid. Have been since I was 15. According to my endocrinologist, my levels are "normal".

I'm somewhat active, mostly through my line of work. It's an industrial environment, and I can easily get in 6,000+ steps a day just at work. When I get home in the evenings, I have an under the desk cycler, I use to bring my steps up to over 10,000 a day. It's not the most vigorous of exercise but I figure something is better than nothing. My heart rate does go up to 100 - 110 bpm. I've also been lifting 5 pound weights too. I know I could go to the gym, but that will be difficult to do with my work schedule + commuting.

As for food intake, I weigh and track everything. I prepare many of my meals at home. Carbs are maybe 100 - 150 g / day, and protein is 70 - 80 g / day. Lots of fiber too. I've also cut back on alcohol intake, and making healthier eating choices. I very rarely eat sweets, sugary drinks, fried foods, fast food, etc.

My average calorie intake is ~1750 calories per day. Some days I may go up to 2100 - 2200 and other days I may be 1500 - 1600. I track my calorie burn with a FitBit One and my Apple Watch. I know these devices aren't 100% accurate regarding calorie expenditure, but I have to be burning something, right? My TDEE for maintenance is 2000 calories. Although my FitBit says on average I burn ~2150 calories a day and my Apple Watch, ~2300 calories a day.

I've been keeping a spreadsheet with much of this information. Based on input vs. output, I should have easily dropped 10 pounds by now, but I've maybe only dropped 1 - 2 pounds. And it's not like it's muscle weight - my clothes still feel tighter than I'd like.

I'm going to next try for more of a calorie deficit. Currently, I'm probably eating better than I was pre-pandemic, where I was easily able to maintain 140 - 145 pounds, and that was with estimating the calorie intake, and not exercising.

Maybe, I'm just being impatient, but it sucks that despite my efforts, I'm not seeing results.

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  • sollyn23l2
    sollyn23l2 Posts: 1,755 Member
    How long have you been trying to lose the weight? If you lost 1-2 pounds over a couple weeks, that's pretty darn good. If it's been longer, you're probably not at quite enough of a deficit, regardless of what the calculators and fitbit are saying. So trying a little bit more of a deficit is a good idea. Just FYI, for calculating purposes, 6000 steps in a day is considered lightly active. Over 10000 is considered moderately active, so I would figure calories for lightly active to start.
  • sollyn23l2
    sollyn23l2 Posts: 1,755 Member
    edited June 2023
    Oh, and don't trust the fitbit or apple watch. They regularly overestimate calories burned by as much as 50%. Which can easily wipe out a deficit if you eat those calories back. It looks at a quick glance like you're possibly at around a 250 calorie deficit, which would lead to about half a pound loss per week, roughly.
  • iheartmytho
    iheartmytho Posts: 6 Member
    I'd say it's been 1 - 2 pounds over the course of 3 months. But I'd like to think I've been in at least somewhat of a caloric deficit for longer than that. I'm also getting my thyroid levels checked soon, as one of my other medications has recently changed and who knows if that impacted thyroid stuff. It's just tough eating so little. I did it years ago - eating 1000 - 1200 calories a day. I was able to maintain a weight of 135 pounds despite being sedentary, but I was also in my 20s. Although, I question if eating so little for several years messed up my metabolism.
  • iheartmytho
    iheartmytho Posts: 6 Member
    And according to an online TDEE calculator, my maintenance calories for being "moderately active" would be 2200 calories / day. Or 2,000 for being lightly active.
  • sollyn23l2
    sollyn23l2 Posts: 1,755 Member
    I would put you at lightly active. And you're probably eating a little bit more calories than you think. But it's ok to lose weight slowly. I would keep doing what you're doing.
  • ddsb1111
    ddsb1111 Posts: 870 Member
    edited June 2023
    For your height and activity level that seems like a higher amount of calories, at least it is for me. Your carbs are irrelevant unless you feel like you’re starving. I really like that you included as much honest and direct information as possible, I can tell you really want to figure this out to reach your goals. I would highly consider the amount of calories you eat by weighing everything, track, and adjust as necessary after a month or so. I’m sorry this isn’t a glamorous answer and it sounds like you’re doing a lot of work but when you’re ready this might be another option. It’s so incredibly hard to change habits and find what satiates you to lose that last 20lbs or so and I wish there was more info and support about it. I can easily maintain around 15lbs above my comfort level, but to be where I want to be, it takes very serious mental and physical changes that are difficult to adapt. It can be done but the tracking and focus has to be near perfect and consistent for a long period of time. Wishing you all the best!!
  • codes017
    codes017 Posts: 2 Member
    I am literally in the exact same boat as you! I could’ve written this myself. For me I think the issue is metabolism got messed up, age and stress. I seem to need a bigger calorie deficit, decent paced biking or jogging as anything intense just increases cortisol and it works against me, and consistency. I think the days I don’t follow my plan really set me back even if I didn’t go completely off the rails, and they probably happen more likely than I’ve wanted to admit. So my main focus now is the mental state of getting and staying calm and focused on my process each day.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    If your TDEE is in fact right around 2000 calories and you're consuming on average 1750, that is a very small deficit of about 1/2 Lb per week which is going to be difficult to discern on the scale because natural bodyweight fluctuations can easily mask that. That small of a deficit also doesn't provide much in the way of wiggle room for error and higher calorie days would reduce that deficit even further or wipe it out altogether.
  • tomcustombuilder
    tomcustombuilder Posts: 2,218 Member
    If no change after a month of trying to lose fat and it isn’t working then it’s a calorie balance issue. Regardless what an app tells you and how accurately you think you’re tracking calories, the proof is always in the results
  • beckajw
    beckajw Posts: 1,728 Member
    While weight loss is mostly calories in vs calories out, the type of calories does make some difference. Try to keep your diet based on whole foods and avoid sugar free/fat free stuff (unless it's found that way in nature). You'll find eating lots of legumes and fish and with vegetables and olive oil will make you feel fuller longer, which leads to eating less, and will cause more weight loss than expected based on the number of calories (in general). Oppositely, eating highly processed foods will leave you feeling hungrier and result in less weight loss than expected.

    2,000 TDEE seems high to me, but I'm not 5'6" and maybe my perspective is just off
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    I'd say it's been 1 - 2 pounds over the course of 3 months. But I'd like to think I've been in at least somewhat of a caloric deficit for longer than that. I'm also getting my thyroid levels checked soon, as one of my other medications has recently changed and who knows if that impacted thyroid stuff. It's just tough eating so little. I did it years ago - eating 1000 - 1200 calories a day. I was able to maintain a weight of 135 pounds despite being sedentary, but I was also in my 20s. Although, I question if eating so little for several years messed up my metabolism.

    Giving you a loss of 2 pounds in 12 weeks, you are losing 0.17 pounds per week. So while you are indeed in a deficit, it is a very very small one.

    You probably have some combination of underestimating calories in and overestimating calories out. While this is extremely common, metabolic damage is not. See this recent thread:

    https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10891930/need-advice

    My post:
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    I have a very big dilemma in my eyes, and I'm hoping somebody can help me out and give me advice because I've tried a lot of things. I believe my metabolism is shot but that's because I had lost a lot of weight and then increase my calories to my activity level and maintain a good weight level and then when I left that job I guess I kind of lowered my calories and then I felt like I was getting weight again so I lowered him some more and now I'm struggling to keep the weight from coming back as I went from 198 to 187 and then back to 220 in a span of four years what are your thoughts?
    You went back to old eating habits and are less active. Weight gain is a product of too many calories over maintenance calories. Your metabolism is fine.
    that's the thing, I don't normally eat more Tham 1500 or 1700 cals a day.

    https://bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/reason-youre-not-losing-weight#Reasons_Youre_not_Losing_Weight_Realities

    ...Underestimating Your Food Intake

    In all honesty, this is usually the explanation for why people can’t lose weight. Simply, they are eating more than they think. Research shows that people may underestimate their food intake by 20-50% at least. That is, what they think they are eating is 20-50% less than what they are actually eating.

    Literally everybody misreports their food intake. Lean people, overweight people, active people, inactive people are all terrible at estimating their food intake. Even registered dieticians are bad at it.

    ...And in a weight loss context, this means that people who think they are only eating 1200 calories may be eating 1800. And that’s why they can’t lose weight. There are all kinds of TV shows where they find someone who says they have a broken, slow metabolism. Who say they don’t eat very much. And they add up the daily food and it’s like 8,000 calories or more. People are terrible at his.

    ...And, going back to metabolic damage, THIS is why those people reporting gaining fat on low calories were doing nothing of the sort. They were simply underreporting their food intake.
  • iheartmytho
    iheartmytho Posts: 6 Member
    I weigh / measure all food prepared at home. When I made a pot of chili the other week, I weighed all of the produce, looked up the nutritional information, read the nutrition label, and put that in a spreadsheet to figure out the number of calories per serving. This pot of chili, filled with ground turkey, veggies, and beans, had ~600 calories per serving. The only time when my calorie counts may be off is when I go out to a restaurant, which isn't too often. And even then I try to be mindful of portion sizes, etc. I went out to a Mexican restaurant the other night. I had a shrimp and a fish taco. The shrimp and fish didn't have any breading, and the tacos weren't smothered in a creamy sauce. I also had 7 tortilla chips and a little bit of salsa. It wasn't a chain restaurant, so no nutritional information was reported. I had to go by something similar in my calorie tracking app - I figure the was the best approximation.
  • tomcustombuilder
    tomcustombuilder Posts: 2,218 Member
    edited June 2023
    I weigh / measure all food prepared at home. When I made a pot of chili the other week, I weighed all of the produce, looked up the nutritional information, read the nutrition label, and put that in a spreadsheet to figure out the number of calories per serving. This pot of chili, filled with ground turkey, veggies, and beans, had ~600 calories per serving. The only time when my calorie counts may be off is when I go out to a restaurant, which isn't too often. And even then I try to be mindful of portion sizes, etc. I went out to a Mexican restaurant the other night. I had a shrimp and a fish taco. The shrimp and fish didn't have any breading, and the tacos weren't smothered in a creamy sauce. I also had 7 tortilla chips and a little bit of salsa. It wasn't a chain restaurant, so no nutritional information was reported. I had to go by something similar in my calorie tracking app - I figure the was the best approximation.
    It’s easy to be off when trying to figure those things, it’s super easy to mis calculate calories with recipes and eating out. Bottom line is the the results tell the tale and not the perceived accuracy of counting and tracking calories.
  • staciehankinson
    staciehankinson Posts: 3 Member
    I can relate to this feeling. Wonder if we start a support group if we can all improve
  • iheartmytho
    iheartmytho Posts: 6 Member
    edited June 2023
    Got it. So even though I ate ~1500 calories today, it was actually more like 2,000 or something like that, because despite weighing, portion control, etc, I'm still over estimating my intake. And even though, I'm somewhat active at work, and working out in the evenings, my calorie burn is not what 2 different activity trackers state. In reality, I really should shoot for 1,000 calories a day or so, because of over estimation, and up my activity. This is all so frustrating.

    Pre-pandemic, I was definitely eating / drinking more than I do now, and not working out, yet I maintained 140 - 145 pounds readily. I would like to think that since I have a larger body mass now, going back to those habits, if not better, would mean some faster weight loss. Apparently, not.
  • sollyn23l2
    sollyn23l2 Posts: 1,755 Member
    Got it. So even though I ate ~1500 calories today, it was actually more like 2,000 or something like that, because despite weighing, portion control, etc, I'm still over estimating my intake. And even though, I'm somewhat active at work, and working out in the evenings, my calorie burn is not what 2 different activity trackers state. In reality, I really should shoot for 1,000 calories a day or so, because of over estimation, and up my activity. This is all so frustrating.

    Pre-pandemic, I was definitely eating / drinking more than I do now, and not working out, yet I maintained 140 - 145 pounds readily. I would like to think that since I have a larger body mass now, going back to those habits, if not better, would mean some faster weight loss. Apparently, not.

    Pretty much.
  • sollyn23l2
    sollyn23l2 Posts: 1,755 Member
    edited June 2023
    Got it. So even though I ate ~1500 calories today, it was actually more like 2,000 or something like that, because despite weighing, portion control, etc, I'm still over estimating my intake. And even though, I'm somewhat active at work, and working out in the evenings, my calorie burn is not what 2 different activity trackers state. In reality, I really should shoot for 1,000 calories a day or so, because of over estimation, and up my activity. This is all so frustrating.

    Pre-pandemic, I was definitely eating / drinking more than I do now, and not working out, yet I maintained 140 - 145 pounds readily. I would like to think that since I have a larger body mass now, going back to those habits, if not better, would mean some faster weight loss. Apparently, not.

    But nobody's saying you have to lose weight. You can also learn to be ok with the weight you're at.
  • middlehaitch
    middlehaitch Posts: 8,486 Member
    @iheartmytho, you are sounding really frustrated and I can’t blame you, it’s hard when a problem is hard to solve.
    Try another tack. Forget the calorie estimators, Fitbit, Apple Watch, MFP, and TDEE calculators and look at your spreadsheet.

    You have everything you need right there! How much you have eaten (if the odd thing is not dead accurate it doesn’t matter so long as you are consistent) and how much you have lost.

    Do the maths, total cals in (over at least a full menstrual cycle) plus how much you have lost divided by the days will give you your daily maintenance. From that you can derive your daily deficit.
    It may not match with the estimates you are working with, but it should give you better information to work with.
    And no you don’t have to drop your calories to 1000 or work out 8 days a week, you just have to take a step back, take a big breath, and work with the information you have. It is the most accurate.

    Cheers, h.

    Do follow up with the thyroid as that could make a difference
    .
  • Lietchi
    Lietchi Posts: 6,819 Member
    edited June 2023
    @iheartmytho, you are sounding really frustrated and I can’t blame you, it’s hard when a problem is hard to solve.
    Try another tack. Forget the calorie estimators, Fitbit, Apple Watch, MFP, and TDEE calculators and look at your spreadsheet.

    You have everything you need right there! How much you have eaten (if the odd thing is not dead accurate it doesn’t matter so long as you are consistent) and how much you have lost.

    Do the maths, total cals in (over at least a full menstrual cycle) plus how much you have lost divided by the days will give you your daily maintenance. From that you can derive your daily deficit.
    It may not match with the estimates you are working with, but it should give you better information to work with.
    And no you don’t have to drop your calories to 1000 or work out 8 days a week, you just have to take a step back, take a big breath, and work with the information you have. It is the most accurate.

    Cheers, h.

    Do follow up with the thyroid as that could make a difference
    .

    Totally endorsing this.
    Based on 1lb over 3 months, your actual deficit would be 40 calories a day.
    So, for example, eat 210 calories less on average and the rate of loss should be around 0.5 lbs a week.
    No need to be drastic and cut down to 1000 calories a day.

    I would recommend using a weight trending app like Libra or Happyscale. At slow rates of loss it makes it easier to see what's happening (its not foolproof, but it helps). Using your trend weight (average over a period) instead of individual weigh-ins makes it easier to calculate your loss when calculating your true TDEE.
  • csplatt
    csplatt Posts: 1,205 Member
    I would change to lightly active and see what happens. I actually use the sedentary setting then log any fitness from there.
  • springlering62
    springlering62 Posts: 8,421 Member
    I can relate to this feeling. Wonder if we start a support group if we can all improve

    Ummm……use these boards that way. I have and have been very successful. No more supportive group of people anywhere!
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    Got it. So even though I ate ~1500 calories today, it was actually more like 2,000 or something like that, because despite weighing, portion control, etc, I'm still over estimating my intake. And even though, I'm somewhat active at work, and working out in the evenings, my calorie burn is not what 2 different activity trackers state. In reality, I really should shoot for 1,000 calories a day or so, because of over estimation, and up my activity. This is all so frustrating.

    Pre-pandemic, I was definitely eating / drinking more than I do now, and not working out, yet I maintained 140 - 145 pounds readily. I would like to think that since I have a larger body mass now, going back to those habits, if not better, would mean some faster weight loss. Apparently, not.

    Please don't take this personally. I've been logging 10 years and still catch myself making mistakes.

    There are mistakes that people commonly make that cause them to not lose weight that we might be able to spot if you change your Diary Sharing settings to Public. In the app, go to Settings > Diary Setting > Diary Sharing > and check Public. Desktop: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/account/diary_settings
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    edited June 2023
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    Got it. So even though I ate ~1500 calories today, it was actually more like 2,000 or something like that, because despite weighing, portion control, etc, I'm still over estimating my intake. And even though, I'm somewhat active at work, and working out in the evenings, my calorie burn is not what 2 different activity trackers state. In reality, I really should shoot for 1,000 calories a day or so, because of over estimation, and up my activity. This is all so frustrating.

    Pre-pandemic, I was definitely eating / drinking more than I do now, and not working out, yet I maintained 140 - 145 pounds readily. I would like to think that since I have a larger body mass now, going back to those habits, if not better, would mean some faster weight loss. Apparently, not.

    Please don't take this personally. I've been logging 10 years and still catch myself making mistakes.

    There are mistakes that people commonly make that cause them to not lose weight that we might be able to spot if you change your Diary Sharing settings to Public. In the app, go to Settings > Diary Setting > Diary Sharing > and check Public. Desktop: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/account/diary_settings

    Speaking of still making mistakes, I thought my dinner calories were suspiciously low, and sure enough, when I took a closer look at my recipe, the 650 calories of rice in the recipe builder had disappeared. Adding them back in added another 97 calories to dinner.

    But I've been doing this long enough to know approximately how full I should feel after meals of X calories, and that none of my casseroles are ever less than 1 calories per gram, so I knew to double check.
  • iheartmytho
    iheartmytho Posts: 6 Member
    To be honest, I’d be OK with my current weight. It only puts me at slightly overweight. However, I have a closet of fun dresses that no longer fit. I do have some sentimental attachment to these clothes and I’d like to fit into them again. Some of the dresses were even custom made for me. Unfortunately, I don’t know how many of the dresses could be altered to fit my slightly larger body.
  • sollyn23l2
    sollyn23l2 Posts: 1,755 Member
    To be honest, I’d be OK with my current weight. It only puts me at slightly overweight. However, I have a closet of fun dresses that no longer fit. I do have some sentimental attachment to these clothes and I’d like to fit into them again. Some of the dresses were even custom made for me. Unfortunately, I don’t know how many of the dresses could be altered to fit my slightly larger body.

    Something to consider... if it's counting calories that's problematic for you, you don't have to. Try increasing your fruits and vegetables. This leaves less room for the more calorie dense foods. Many people find this causes them to lose weight without necessarily tracking calories.
  • springlering62
    springlering62 Posts: 8,421 Member
    Or……consider some strength or weight training?

    I dropped too low during Covid, when the gyms were closed, and looked awful.

    I’ve stepped up my weight lifting (nothing spectacular, slow and steady, like my weight loss) and have deliberately added back 15 pounds, but am still wearing the clothes I was at my lowest weight.

    Strength training changes your shape.

    And, no, I don’t look like a bodybuilder. No giant biceps, no massive thighs. I just look like a slim person with muscle tone.

    It’s also fun. Like I said, I don’t do particularly heavy, but it’s very satisfying to quietly challenge myself, get a new personal best once in a while, and silently congratulate myself “yep, I can do this!”
  • ByteLily
    ByteLily Posts: 52 Member
    I didn't read thru all the comments but I wanted to reply because I am almost exactly the same as you. I weight the same. I put on the same weight as you during the pandemic, I am nearly the same age as you although I'm 48. I am the same height as you. I walk the same steps a day. I get in walks after meals. However MFP gives me only 1200 calories a day with the goal of one lb a week, and I don't log / eat back any exercise. I have set my activity level to be not very active because if I'm honest with myself, I sit alot of the time. A lightly active person is on their feet much of the day.

    A couple of things could be at play here. Could you be overestimated your tde ? Bc my husband, at 6'3 and moderate active has that tde. He's on 2000+ for maintenance and he's a very fit and active person.

    Another thing I have recently learned is menopause, / perimenopause comes with some metabolism changes as well. For one your metabolism slows down. You start to accumulate fat in different areas you didn't before like the abdomen. Your body is much more sensitive and likely to turn carbs into fat. It's harder to put on muscle. What worked in the past for weight loss suddenly isn't working now. I did alot of reading on this from the may clinic and health line and am following their advice to really, really be honest about how many calories I need in a day and really trying to drop those carbs. At age 41 you could be entering perimenopause and the changes that come with it.

    I also have eliminated all sources of empty calories like alcohol, chips, sugar, salad dressing, processed foods. I simply don't eat between meals with the exception of one tony snack in the afternoon. They also advised to build as much muscle as possible .I haven't started that but rn I am walking. Taking the advice I read about I'm losing a pound a week . This is a new approach for me and it leaves me eating pretty much the same things every day. It's boring but I'm seeing results.


    For breakfast, at 255 cals I'm having a packet of plain oatmeal with just a smidge of Brummel and brown, frozen blueberries for other fresh fruit, and one boiled egg. Lunch is a large salad with one tsp olive oil, vinegar, lemon juice, and a lean proteins. Dinner is a lean protein and a small serving of carbs, and lots of plain vegetables. No butter, no sauce. I enjoy one snack a day at 200 cals, a gluten free fig bars. My total calories is right on 1200 and Its been a wakeup call on how little food I need to nourish my body and how much I was eating for pure entertainment and how many empty calories there are in life.



    I don't eat back my exercise calories because I'm just walking and not really doing a thing intense. Eating back calories is something I've seen disputed here. For some it just doesn't work. I'm one of them.

    I saw someone mention accepting the weight you are at. I tried that and couldn't because I've seen it just creeping up. I look around my town and there are very few slim older women. The slim older women I know work really hard at it and I'm trying that approach as a lifelong change o need to make that at my age and dealing with menopause, my bodys needs have changed and I'll adapt my eating according to stop this weight gain. I have RA that can make exercise difficult so I can't count on being active and I need to keep my weight down for my joints. I wish you the best !