I am 100% on the fence and need advice

andyloosbrock
andyloosbrock Posts: 175 Member
edited October 2024 in Health and Weight Loss
I WAS taking Shakeology every day. 3 factors lead to me quitting it: Price, My nutritionist doesn't like liquid calories for me, and I heard Shakeology is made from low quality nutrients and vitamins.

So now I am trying to take Unjury Medical Quality Protein (nothing more than a whey protein) 1-2 times per day. It has MANY fewer calories, etc.

My question, if you know of both. Does the Unjury have enough Vitamins and nutrients?

I am really wondering if I should go back and accept the added daily calories.

Help.....please!

Replies

  • Monica_has_a_goal
    Monica_has_a_goal Posts: 694 Member
    Isn't that MORE liquid calories?
  • MB_Positif
    MB_Positif Posts: 8,897 Member
    just curious, what about getting your nutrients from food, it sounds like that is what you nutritionist would be happier about?
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    what lead you to Unjury? at over a $1 per serving it's quite pricy to other proteins on the market
  • Mrs_TrimWaistFatWallet
    Mrs_TrimWaistFatWallet Posts: 486
    If it's nothing more than whey protein, then just buy whey protein and eat nutritious foods.
  • andyloosbrock
    andyloosbrock Posts: 175 Member
    what lead you to Unjury? at over a $1 per serving it's quite pricy to other proteins on the market

    It was recommended for post op bariatric surgery patients, which is what I am (I was 320. to 201. now 301).
  • 1a1a
    1a1a Posts: 761 Member
    I agree with the getting nutrients from food post, a person who eats a balanced diet, in theory, shouldn't need to take supplements right?

    Edit: In light of your last post I consider my statement a mute point as it seems you may currently have dietary restrictions.
  • andyloosbrock
    andyloosbrock Posts: 175 Member
    Isn't that MORE liquid calories?

    Yes, you are correct. That is one of the reasons I quit to begin with. I'm just wondering if the WHEY is giving me what the SHAKEOLOGY game me.
  • nukebhs83
    nukebhs83 Posts: 158
    i dont know the answer---my daughter will see that i said something on this topic and can probably tell you something about this. she is very knowledgable about that stuff. i will say though that we decided not to do the shakeology thing because like you said it is very expensive and also we dont want to take anything that the people making it dont know how to spell some of the ingredients they put in it----lol---no lie---check out the ingredient list---some of the ingredients are misspelled.
  • andyloosbrock
    andyloosbrock Posts: 175 Member
    I agree with the getting nutrients from food post, a person who eats a balanced diet, in theory, shouldn't need to take supplements right?

    Then why do I, and most people, need to take a fist ful of vitamins every day?
  • cloneme_losehalf
    cloneme_losehalf Posts: 356 Member
    If it is nutrients you want, why not sugar-free Carnation instant breakfast drinks??? That is the nutrient drink the bariatric drs here put patients on prior to surgery for breakfast and two snacks along with lunch and dinner consisting of 18 g of protein and one cup of low cal veggie and 64 oz of water.
  • 1a1a
    1a1a Posts: 761 Member
    With a limited understanding I can only postulate that there may be a range of foods that you and others aren't or can't eat. Check out this guy (when you have a spare hour) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBr_i1mH_08 Now I'm on the fence about "nutrition" ah ha.
  • MissMaryMac33
    MissMaryMac33 Posts: 1,433 Member
    Unjury is crap.....not to mention they have the worst customer service on the planet. I wouldn't give them a dime.

    As post bariatric all you care about is getting pure whey protein isolate. That's what you absorb best.
    There are tons of brands of this - easily available and a hell of a lot cheaper.

    Read labels... look for whey protein isolate (not concentrate, not soy protein etc)
    If you care about sweeteners, look for that. Look at the sugar/carbs becasue you want that to be low as well.

    There are TONS of places you can order samples --- and some good ones you can buy locally.
    Even Costco has one called Isolate Advantage that is whey protein isolate and all natural sweeteners.
    GNC and vitamin shoppe both have good ones.
  • MB_Positif
    MB_Positif Posts: 8,897 Member
    I agree with the getting nutrients from food post, a person who eats a balanced diet, in theory, shouldn't need to take supplements right?

    Then why do I, and most people, need to take a fist ful of vitamins every day?

    Are the vitamins recommended by your doctor or nutritionist or are you taking them because you think you are supposed to? Just asking because my mom is always trying to get me to take certain supplements, but my doc has never recommended them. If your doctor is having you take them I assume it is because they have concerns about your personal health that maybe can't be addressed with food alone.
  • MissMaryMac33
    MissMaryMac33 Posts: 1,433 Member
    I agree with the getting nutrients from food post, a person who eats a balanced diet, in theory, shouldn't need to take supplements right?

    Then why do I, and most people, need to take a fist ful of vitamins every day?

    You're not drinking protein shakes to get your nutrients for the day --- you NEED y our vitamins and you need good ones. Hopefully you're not sucking on flintstones gummies and citracal. You need calcium CITRATE, a good multi, d, b-12 and iron at the minimum. (not sure about iron requirements for men though)

    You should see the vitamins I take every day..... thats the minimum. Whatever you do, don't start thinking you're getting enough from food and protein shakes post-op because you're not.
  • MissMaryMac33
    MissMaryMac33 Posts: 1,433 Member
    I agree with the getting nutrients from food post, a person who eats a balanced diet, in theory, shouldn't need to take supplements right?

    Then why do I, and most people, need to take a fist ful of vitamins every day?

    Are the vitamins recommended by your doctor or nutritionist or are you taking them because you think you are supposed to? Just asking because my mom is always trying to get me to take certain supplements, but my doc has never recommended them. If your doctor is having you take them I assume it is because they have concerns about your personal health that maybe can't be addressed with food alone.

    If you had bariatric surgery and your doctor didn't recommend any vitamins you need a new doctor and you need one fast.
  • andyloosbrock
    andyloosbrock Posts: 175 Member
    I agree with the getting nutrients from food post, a person who eats a balanced diet, in theory, shouldn't need to take supplements right?

    Then why do I, and most people, need to take a fist ful of vitamins every day?

    You're not drinking protein shakes to get your nutrients for the day --- you NEED y our vitamins and you need good ones. Hopefully you're not sucking on flintstones gummies and citracal. You need calcium CITRATE, a good multi, d, b-12 and iron at the minimum. (not sure about iron requirements for men though)

    You should see the vitamins I take every day..... thats the minimum. Whatever you do, don't start thinking you're getting enough from food and protein shakes post-op because you're not.

    I take 2 multis (activit), 2 flax seed (for my Omega 3,6,9), 1 C, and 1 b12.
  • hikeout470
    hikeout470 Posts: 628 Member
    Agreed. Have you tried the muscle milk naturals product? It is much lower in calories and higher in protein grams than most products and I think it tastes better.
  • cloneme_losehalf
    cloneme_losehalf Posts: 356 Member
    My mom and sister both had gastric bypass and NEITHER of them every had to drink whey protein or other afterwards. They were recommended Centrum Complete and I know after that during follow ups they were checked to see if there were others needed. Mom I think needed B-12.
  • lauehorn
    lauehorn Posts: 183
    I agree with the getting nutrients from food post, a person who eats a balanced diet, in theory, shouldn't need to take supplements right?

    Then why do I, and most people, need to take a fist ful of vitamins every day?

    People who are eating balanced diets do not need vitamins or other supplements. They are intended to be just that: supplements. If you are not eating a balanced diet or have a medically confirmed deficiency (could be genetic or due to something such as bariatric surgery), then you generally only need supplements for what you aren't able to get from food. Whey is just a protein supplement. If you are getting protein from your food and your body is absorbing it, you don't need whey. I can't stress enough how much better it is to get your nutrients from food, not nutritional supplements. I don't have experience with bariatric surgery, so I understand if a whey isolate supplement is the only possible way to provide your body with enough nutrients. As for the other added nutrients, check the labels and compare the differences. You probably don't need either and may only need supplementation for nutrients your body isn't absorbing or is lacking by more than you can make up through diet. Your doctor or a registered nutritionist should be the one advising you.
  • MissMaryMac33
    MissMaryMac33 Posts: 1,433 Member
    I agree with the getting nutrients from food post, a person who eats a balanced diet, in theory, shouldn't need to take supplements right?

    Then why do I, and most people, need to take a fist ful of vitamins every day?

    People who are eating balanced diets do not need vitamins or other supplements. They are intended to be just that: supplements. If you are not eating a balanced diet or have a medically confirmed deficiency (could be genetic or due to something such as bariatric surgery), then you generally only need supplements for what you aren't able to get from food. Whey is just a protein supplement. If you are getting protein from your food and your body is absorbing it, you don't need whey. As for the other added nutrients, check the labels and compare the differences. You probably don't need either and may only need supplementation for nutrients your body isn't absorbing or is lacking by more than you can make up through diet. Your doctor or a registered nutritionist should be the one advising you.

    You're mistaken. People who had gastric bypass NEED vitamins and supplements even if they have a balanced diet.. This is something you plan on doing for life. They do not absorb all of the nutrients in food like someone who did not have it.
  • MissMaryMac33
    MissMaryMac33 Posts: 1,433 Member
    My mom and sister both had gastric bypass and NEITHER of them every had to drink whey protein or other afterwards. They were recommended Centrum Complete and I know after that during follow ups they were checked to see if there were others needed. Mom I think needed B-12.

    They don't NEED them but if they are watching their numbers, getting their tests taken etc. they'll realize they probably WANT them. And taking centrum completely is far from enough. There are some serious issues if you get vitamin deficient in various areas and some of them are not reversable. (b-12 for example). I don't know how far they are post op but it sure sounds like they are not being advised by a bariatric professional --- most primary care doctors don't have a clue what they need.
  • efriling
    efriling Posts: 58 Member
    I agree with the getting nutrients from food post, a person who eats a balanced diet, in theory, shouldn't need to take supplements right?

    Then why do I, and most people, need to take a fist ful of vitamins every day?

    People who are eating balanced diets do not need vitamins or other supplements. They are intended to be just that: supplements. If you are not eating a balanced diet or have a medically confirmed deficiency (could be genetic or due to something such as bariatric surgery), then you generally only need supplements for what you aren't able to get from food. Whey is just a protein supplement. If you are getting protein from your food and your body is absorbing it, you don't need whey. I can't stress enough how much better it is to get your nutrients from food, not nutritional supplements. I don't have experience with bariatric surgery, so I understand if a whey isolate supplement is the only possible way to provide your body with enough nutrients. As for the other added nutrients, check the labels and compare the differences. You probably don't need either and may only need supplementation for nutrients your body isn't absorbing or is lacking by more than you can make up through diet. Your doctor or a registered nutritionist should be the one advising you.

    People who have had bariatric surgery do have special nutritional needs. Although there are many different ways to do the surgery these days, most versions do not only shrink the size of the stomach, but also either shorten the time that the food is in the digestive tract, or even remove part of the digestive tract- therefore the person does not absorb all of the calories, fat, protein, etc. from the food they ingest helping to reduce their weight. But by the same token, they also do not absorb all of the VITAMINS & NUTRIENTS from the food they ingest. That's why all post-op bariatric patients need to be on supplemental nutrients for life. Just wanted to explain the process for those who may be unfamiliar to increase understanding :)
  • fullnest
    fullnest Posts: 4
    My dr told me the same thing. Though a bit pricey, and one of the better tasting protein drinks it doesn't offer up much in the way of nutrients unless you add it to other nutrient rich foods. you can sprinkle it on oatmeal or your cereal, or over your soups, etc..(as long as you purchase the unflavored for the soups and such) you can also make shakes with adding liquid nutrition in(such as reviva)with fruits and such mixed in. Makes it a bit thicker too-and if you freeze your fruits its even better. Technically, unless the vitamins are biodegradable your body won't use them properly. My mom is a nurse and my uncles are doctors and all are on the same page with nutritional supplements. Purchase vitamins that are biodegradeable-not sure how you do that, but that is what I was told, not jut by my relatives but also my nutritionist. No way are you ever going to get 100% of everything-but as long as you're getting the most important -C, K, D, B's, Calcium and iron-most of us will be just fine. The shakes I was told are to be used in addition to our meals to make sure we are getting enough protein, and to curb some hunger issues if we have them, and pick protein and a veggie for our lunch and dinner and we should be ok nutritionally wise. Also our body can't properly absorb large amounts of protein http://www.jissn.com/content/5/1/10(hopefully the link works) unless we are of course pro athletes in training, lol!!! Are you seeing a nutritionist or your dr regularly? they might have some helpful hints. good luck!!!
  • fullnest
    fullnest Posts: 4
    oops!! I re read and saw you're seeing a nutritionists. LOL!! but no, it does not offer enough vitamins-it's only to supplement our diets and a way to curb hunger in between meals.
  • knittygirl52
    knittygirl52 Posts: 432 Member
    Here's my question: why do you want liquid calories at all? I realize I'm only talking from my point-of-view, but personally I would MUCH rather have something to eat than just drink my calories. In fact, for that reason, I never drink juice--I'd much rather get all the fiber and have the experience of chewing. If I'm trying to get protein, I would rather eat an egg, some cheese, some meat. But that's me.
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