Intermittent Fasting
Kikivadas
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I have started intermittent fasting alongside calorie control/deficit for weightloss. I’ve lost 8.6kilos this month! Yay.
Does anyone intermittent fast? If so how do you do yours?
What’s your thoughts on dirty fasting vs clean fasting?
Does anyone intermittent fast? If so how do you do yours?
What’s your thoughts on dirty fasting vs clean fasting?
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Depends on what your definition of a "dirty" or "clean" fast is, what your goal in doing intermittent fasting is, and whether you enjoy "dirty" or "clean" (I hate those words) fasting more.1
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That much of a drop that quickly will be mostly water weight. IF works as a fatloss tool only if it causes you to take in fewer overall weekly calories than you were previously taking in.2
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Hi Kiandra, I’m glad you’re finding success with IF, what is your preferred method? I’m also using it as a tool to keep my cals in check. You’ve dropped a significant amount in your first month! Just know it slows down more and more as you get closer to goal. Just keep at it, and remember it’s not a sprint it’s a marathon, and for many of us a way of life to maintain. As for “clean” vs “dirty” that (to me) is bro science and a term often used to sell programs. You should eat foods that you enjoy and also meet your daily requirements for health so you can sustain your life and your diet. That’s pretty much it. Wouldn’t hurt to throw some exercise in there as well for general well-being, strength, and extra wiggle room within your calories. We want to make this as simple and painless as possible so we reach our goal and stay there.4
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I too IF and feel better eating somewhat cleaner. I am reading a lot and watching Dr. Becky (Utube) who explains simply about IF and Keto/Paleo and gives great advice on how to ease into cleaner eating. But if you’re eating just junk during the eating window, it sort of defeats the purpose, which is to stabilize your sugar. I did notice once I started to eliminate junk food, I wasn’t craving sugar as much. I do try and jot everything down on here, but there are days when it tells me I’m eating too little calories. Is there a way to set MyFitnessPal app to be on board with If? I basically skip breakfast, and only have 2 meals. But I eat enough.1
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I have been doing IF for about 20 days not much weight loss but i feel a lot better. I am 57 so i know my metabolism has come to a standstill so i am tracking all foods and started working out weights and less cardio. I need to build muscle to lose the fat. I am doing either 16:8 or mostly 18:6 and not really all that hungry kinda shocked about that.1
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buckeye213 wrote: »I have been doing IF for about 20 days not much weight loss but i feel a lot better. I am 57 so i know my metabolism has come to a standstill so i am tracking all foods and started working out weights and less cardio. I need to build muscle to lose the fat. I am doing either 16:8 or mostly 18:6 and not really all that hungry kinda shocked about that.
-Metabolism doesn't come to a standstill
-Adding muscle doesn't burn fat
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buckeye213 wrote: »I have been doing IF for about 20 days not much weight loss but i feel a lot better. I am 57 so i know my metabolism has come to a standstill so i am tracking all foods and started working out weights and less cardio. I need to build muscle to lose the fat. I am doing either 16:8 or mostly 18:6 and not really all that hungry kinda shocked about that.
No, your metabolism hasn't come to a standstill. Metabolism is surprisingly stable from our 20s until about 60, then decline is gradual. See:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34385400/
So you are logging food and calorie counting, in addition to doing IF? How many calories are you logging, on average If not losing weight, it's a little soon to tell if it's only been 20 days, but one possibility is that you're eating at/near maintenance calories. However, it is normal to add some water weight when starting strength training, and that can mask fat loss for up to a few weeks.
Muscle mass gain is a really slow thing, especially as we age and especially when in a calorie deficit. Strength training is well worth doing, but muscle mass gain isn't going to happen fast enough to make a major contribution any time soon, sadly. (I wish it were not so: I'm female, 67, lost weight at 59-60. Keeping existing muscle mass while losing fat would be a good outcome.)
I'm not trying to be a downer: Weight loss is very achievable, strength gains come before muscle mass gains and are very useful, fitness improvement is a good thing. You're doing good stuff. Keep doing it!1 -
I used to do dirty keto with 16/8 IF for about a year (off and on). I did lose weight and I felt good. But in the long run it did not work for me. I am a binge eater. When I travel I did not IF and I would eat some carbs, along with some favorite non keto drinks. I instantly would gain 10-15 pounds back quickly. Then that would start a downward spiral for me. That would trigger a F mode for me. Now since Nov I have just been watching what I am eating, lower carb, drinking 100oz of water a day, higher protein along with no eating from 7pm until after my morning workout (anywhere from 6:30-9am) and I feel great. I have not binged at all. And when I have gone off my diet, I was able to get right back on track the next day or right after my vacation. I think it is a great way for some people, but just not for me.4
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Since you are doing IF for weight loss, you have my blessing, FWIW, to dirty fast.
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/dirty-fasting
...What is dirty fasting?
Before diving into what dirty fasting is, it’s important to note that the term isn’t used in the medical community. There’s no research on this practice or how it compares with “clean” fasting.
Dirty fasting is a term used to describe consuming some calories during a fasting window.
This differs from traditional fasting or “clean” fasting, which restricts all foods and calorie-containing beverages.
People who practice dirty fasting will typically consume up to 100 calories during their fasting window. This may include some milk and sweetener in their coffee or a cup of bone broth.
Again, there’s no set definition of dirty fasting, so some people may consume many more calories during a dirty fast, while others may consume fewer.
On the other hand, people who practice traditional methods of fasting, or “clean” fasting, don’t consume any calories during fasting windows.1 -
Hi.
I have been doing IF for a while and am down 98.1 pounds. Idk how most people do it or if there is a norm but here is my routine:
Black coffee in AM with morning vitamins, supplements, and meds
Water all day
Dinner at 430pm…very lite…keep it to under 300 calories
Black Coffee again at 7pm (give or take)
Between 8pm-9pm this is where I eat the vast majority of my calories. I usually have a few servings of fruit with a single serving of nuts, Organic Oats, Ezekiel Bread, Salad, etc
Then I am done for the day
My problem has always been binge eating and for whatever reason it always gets the best of me so instead of fighting it I found a way to embrace it. I have found it satisfying and over time have found that eating whole unprocessed food (for the vast majority of my calorie intake) has worked wonders. My food selections are vegan and also follow the Blue Zone diet. By incorporating all three elements (IF, Blue Zone, Vegan) I have found something that works great for me and turned my binges into something I can manage without fear/anxiety. I have also managed to fit in regular cardio and weightlifting (recently added these elements).
Take care and Be Well,
-J-
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Just understand that it’s a consistent weekly calorie deficit over time that is responsible for fat loss and not meal timing. If IF causes someone to consume lower overall calories then it’s a good way to go. If someone were to do IF and not lower overall calories then IF is a waste of time Fatloss wise.4
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I follow the fasting method on facebook-FREE!!! They have some great resources. I also listen to their podcasts and read some of the blogs. I'm attempting a 42 hour fast right now... and 19 hours in and going strong.-1
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I didn't set out to IF but when I went high fat/low carb, I rarely got hungry or cravings. I realized that with only two meals or maybe one big meal, I was satisfied and didn't even think about food until the next day.
So I think the end of July or so I added the IF in the form of Time Restricted Eating (TRE), I wake up around noon, I have my first coffee & meal around 3-4, I eat dinner around 9 and have my last coffee by around 10, and then I don't eat again. I go to bed around sunrise and when I wake up I'm still good.
I can't do multiple day fasts yet because I'm still on the last bit of diabetes meds (hope to be off by Dec.)... if I don't eat at least once per 24 hours my blood sugar will plummet. So a couple times per month I do a 72 hour sardine fast, I've been doing that since August and I really like how it's going.
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tomcustombuilder wrote: »Just understand that it’s a consistent weekly calorie deficit over time that is responsible for fat loss and not meal timing. If IF causes someone to consume lower overall calories then it’s a good way to go. If someone were to do IF and not lower overall calories then IF is a waste of time Fatloss wise.
This is very true; IF isn't magical, you still gotta stay in a calorie deficit.
For me it's more about controlling my impulse eating. I hate giving into munchies or mindless snacking when I'm not hungry, just because I'm bored and want that food high, or doing stuff where in the past I'd be munching.
There is one pretty good benefit though, in that IF can put you in a deeper state of ketosis, and if you work out in the day before your first meal, it's a great fat burner.
If you're eating more often and not in ketosis, your body is burning more of the things you just ate, the readily available fuel. If you've been fasting for for 16 hours, your body has most likely already run out of that fuel, and it's burning stored fat.0 -
My problem has always been binge eating and for whatever reason it always gets the best of me so instead of fighting it I found a way to embrace it.
Yeah, I relate. I always had a big appetite and could easily binge. The small frequent meals/snacks up to 6 times per day didn't work for me, it drove me a bit nuts. For me, it just left me always hungry and always craving and counting down till the next meal. Raised temptations to take more. And on a practical note, I hated stopping what I was doing to constantly run & get food. it just felt so fussy and distracting.
While I went opposite dietary-wise than you did (low carb in the range of keto/carnivore), I decided to stop fighting my body's natural inclinations and just eat a satisfying meal once or twice per day. I walk away feeling satiated, and that feeling can last until well into the next day.
I personally love not having to think about food as much on and off. My time starts, I eat till I'm happy; my time is ending, I eat again (maybe a meal, maybe just a snack) and I'm good to go for 16-18 hrs.
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I've been IF on and off for well over a decade now,
It was part of my everyday life when I was 16/17, I would never have breakfast, then a little bit of lunch and then a bit of dinner, but I was never hungry and my body was fine with it.
I went through a period and gained a lot of weight, only started IF again about 6/7 months after having my child.
So now it's been over a year and I weigh less than when I was 17.
I don't calorie count, I make sure what I eat is healthy, I listen to my body. Some weeks I don't fast then others I will not eat breakfast and lunch but only dinner. (I always miss lunch if I eat breakfast and vice versa, in between I'll have coffee to keep me going 😅) and now I limit my eating till 9pm I only have a small snack after dinner and then fruit tea, if I'm still hungry I'll go to bed to sleep it off 😅. Most importantly during the fasting I'll also do some walking.
With the help of coffee ha! I've learned to listen to my body and if I'm thirsty or tired I just go to sleep if I feel hungry, compared to before I would just snack anyways.1 -
I've been doing 12:12 IF as recommended by my doctor for the last four months and I haven't lost a single pound. I talked to a pharmacist and he said that wasn't enough fasting to lose weight, which is quite discouraging for me as a nighttime binger who has stopped binging at night to pull off the 12:12.
What kind of fasting in the best? Thanks.0 -
Fasting doesn’t work for fat loss if there isn’t a consistent weekly calorie deficit. 4 months no loss means you’re eating at maintenance calories.2
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Not binging, if this has been a problem in the past, is a win on and by itself. Think of it as building blocks. If you've built up to not binging, now try lowering your calories by a little bit. Have a look at the first meal you're having after your fast for example. Maybe you can reduce the calories of that meal by two or three hundred.3
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cupcakegirl81 wrote: »I've been doing 12:12 IF as recommended by my doctor for the last four months and I haven't lost a single pound. I talked to a pharmacist and he said that wasn't enough fasting to lose weight, which is quite discouraging for me as a nighttime binger who has stopped binging at night to pull off the 12:12.
What kind of fasting in the best? Thanks.
@cupcakegirl81 the good news is that you aren't GAINING weight and you are no longer binging.
However, as the posters above said, not losing weight for four months means you're not in a calorie deficit.
In addition to 12:12, are you also logging your food? If not, that's where to start.
If so, there are mistakes that people commonly make that cause them to not lose weight that we might be able to spot if you change your Diary Sharing settings to Public. In the app, go to Settings > Diary Setting > Diary Sharing > and check Public. Desktop: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/account/diary_settings1 -
Female here and I intermittent fast every day and have done so for the last couple of years. I think finding the correct eating window for your routine is important. I previously fasted for 18 hrs and 16hrs and it wasn’t working for me at all. I just binged when my eating window came around.
I now do IF for 14:10 and this is what has worked best for me. I get to enjoy breakfast again which I really missed 😊 I haven’t noticed any weight loss with IF but have noticed that I have increased energy in the mornings before I eat. And it cuts out any temptation to have night time snacks.1 -
I do IF. I will sometimes consume under 50 calories while fasting and it never seems to break my fast. Just a little milk in my coffee or tea. When in my eating window I try to eat healthy and not junk food0
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I have fasted every day since Nov/Dec 2022, starting at 16 hours a day. I have fasted up to almost 64 hours in preparation for a colonoscopy. I routinely fast about 18-19 hours each day, with a goal of 16 hours. I try to eat only when I am hungry. I began fasting to help with my late night eating, the time that I most like to eat (and it has helped a lot). Other than a frozen fruit pop, I don't eat anything after 7 pm and usually begin eating food after noon or one o'clock the next day. I am concentrating on eating more wholesome foods during my eating window. When I do this, I feel so much better than when I eat the fast/junk food. Fasting is what started the scale to move for me.1
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I do 16:8. No big special diet, just macro balance. I love it. I have a tendency to overeat in the evening, so I set my my window to stop around 5-6pm and it has really helped.1
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The 16:8 is awesome. Fridays I do a 24 hour fast, I find that it Jumpstarts my weekend. I've lost 20 pounds in the last 80 days and my BF% has dropped almost 5%. So, I'm definitely loving it.2
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