question.......

mamaof2girls
mamaof2girls Posts: 332 Member
edited September 2024 in Food and Nutrition
Does it matter what types of food I eat as long as I stay within my calorie range? Hypothetically, if I eat fast food all day every day...as long as I am within my calorie range for each day shouldn't I still lose weight? Not that I am going to do that :blushing: , but I am trying to keep myself from all the guilt trips I lay on myself when I indulge a little here and there.
«1

Replies

  • mamaof2girls
    mamaof2girls Posts: 332 Member
    Does it matter what types of food I eat as long as I stay within my calorie range? Hypothetically, if I eat fast food all day every day...as long as I am within my calorie range for each day shouldn't I still lose weight? Not that I am going to do that :blushing: , but I am trying to keep myself from all the guilt trips I lay on myself when I indulge a little here and there.
  • SHBoss1673
    SHBoss1673 Posts: 7,161 Member
    Yeah it matters. the amount of food you eat is only half the battle. Not saying you have to be perfect, but yeah, you need PROPER nutrition, which means the right kinds of macro-nutrients.
  • Nich0le
    Nich0le Posts: 2,906 Member
    You are correct. There was a study released recently that found it didn't matter what kind of diet people chose as long as they exercised 30 minutes 3 days per week and stayed within their calorie allowance. No they did not get "bonus" calories for the exercise either, a flat daily calorie allowance only regardless of activity.

    Of course, it was recommended to choose a heart healthy diet rich in grains, lean protein and plenty of fruits and veggies but they did prove that low carb, low fat other such diets ALL produced the same results if people ate their within their calorie allowance.
  • havingitall
    havingitall Posts: 3,728 Member
    Seems to me if you ate fast food and tried to stay within your calories, you wouldn't get much to eat. Wouldn't your body be happier and feel better with fruits, veggies, whole grains and lean meats as opposed to a Big Mac, fries and a coke?
  • smadag1
    smadag1 Posts: 1,368 Member
    I have to agree with Banks it does matter what you eat and that you get plenty of water
  • MyaPapaya75
    MyaPapaya75 Posts: 3,143 Member
    Does it matter what types of food I eat as long as I stay within my calorie range? Hypothetically, if I eat fast food all day every day...as long as I am within my calorie range for each day shouldn't I still lose weight? Not that I am going to do that :blushing: , but I am trying to keep myself from all the guilt trips I lay on myself when I indulge a little here and there.
    From experience and opinion it definately matters what type of food you put into your body..calories are just one element into the whole eating right routine. It would suck to get thin and find out your cholesterol and sugars are through the roof..or you have a fatty liver ...I really dont think anyone who is eating 1200 worth of "McDonalds" is going to lose weight because that is 1-2 meals a day....Now thats what I would call starvation mode...just my opinion..but when I was not eating right I would eat once or twice a day 1400 calorie and high fat ..I never lost a pound in fact I gained...now I eat more and way more often and lose pounds. Its the food choices....high fiber ,protein,vitamin rich foods is the way to go..:drinker:
  • cquick
    cquick Posts: 220 Member
    Does it matter what types of food I eat as long as I stay within my calorie range? Hypothetically, if I eat fast food all day every day...as long as I am within my calorie range for each day shouldn't I still lose weight? Not that I am going to do that :blushing: , but I am trying to keep myself from all the guilt trips I lay on myself when I indulge a little here and there.
    From experience and opinion it definately matters what type of food you put into your body..calories are just one element into the whole eating right routine. It would suck to get thin and find out your cholesterol and sugars are through the roof..or you have a fatty liver ...I really dont think anyone who is eating 1200 worth of "McDonalds" is going to lose weight because that is 1-2 meals a day....Now thats what I would call starvation mode...just my opinion..but when I was not eating right I would eat once or twice a day 1400 calorie and high fat ..I never lost a pound in fact I gained...now I eat more and way more often and lose pounds. Its the food choices....high fiber ,protein,vitamin rich foods is the way to go..:drinker:

    i just have to ask: when you ate 1400 cals w/high fat every day, were you exercising at all?

    i think this is where it gets interesting...i think metabolism is key: my brother eats like a pig and has nothing but fast/junk food EVERY DAY...i think he said the last time he ate a whole day of good food was two years ago, and he's RIPPED because he runs 20 miles a week, lifts four days, does cardio three days for only 30 min, and all of this is done in an enjoyable fashion with no real intensity. he's been eating like this his whole life.

    i, on the other hand, look at a poptart and gain half a pound...or at least i feel like it. i eat clean, stay within my calorie range, and exercise MORE than regularly with EXTREME intensity, as i did in the past...granted, i FEEL better on a clean diet, but now i'm barely even budging on the scale.

    at one point in time when i got super thin, 45% of my calories were fats (good fats), 50% carbs, and 5% protein...i lost weight like it was nobodys business...and when i went OVER on my fats, i had even BETTER results...

    i honestly wish i could hit the guy that invented the calorie, b/c it's done nothing more than confuse and beguile folks...

    sorry, went on a tangent...but i think we need to start thinking MACROnutrition instead of caloriescaloriescalories....
  • mamaof2girls
    mamaof2girls Posts: 332 Member
    Does it matter what types of food I eat as long as I stay within my calorie range? Hypothetically, if I eat fast food all day every day...as long as I am within my calorie range for each day shouldn't I still lose weight? Not that I am going to do that :blushing: , but I am trying to keep myself from all the guilt trips I lay on myself when I indulge a little here and there.
    From experience and opinion it definately matters what type of food you put into your body..calories are just one element into the whole eating right routine. It would suck to get thin and find out your cholesterol and sugars are through the roof..or you have a fatty liver ...I really dont think anyone who is eating 1200 worth of "McDonalds" is going to lose weight because that is 1-2 meals a day....Now thats what I would call starvation mode...just my opinion..but when I was not eating right I would eat once or twice a day 1400 calorie and high fat ..I never lost a pound in fact I gained...now I eat more and way more often and lose pounds. Its the food choices....high fiber ,protein,vitamin rich foods is the way to go..:drinker:

    i just have to ask: when you ate 1400 cals w/high fat every day, were you exercising at all?

    i think this is where it gets interesting...i think metabolism is key: my brother eats like a pig and has nothing but fast/junk food EVERY DAY...i think he said the last time he ate a whole day of good food was two years ago, and he's RIPPED because he runs 20 miles a week, lifts four days, does cardio three days for only 30 min, and all of this is done in an enjoyable fashion with no real intensity. he's been eating like this his whole life.

    i, on the other hand, look at a poptart and gain half a pound...or at least i feel like it. i eat clean, stay within my calorie range, and exercise MORE than regularly with EXTREME intensity, as i did in the past...granted, i FEEL better on a clean diet, but now i'm barely even budging on the scale.

    at one point in time when i got super thin, 45% of my calories were fats (good fats), 50% carbs, and 5% protein...i lost weight like it was nobodys business...and when i went OVER on my fats, i had even BETTER results...

    i honestly wish i could hit the guy that invented the calorie, b/c it's done nothing more than confuse and beguile folks...

    sorry, went on a tangent...but i think we need to start thinking MACROnutrition instead of caloriescaloriescalories....


    So, yes to your question........I am exercising at LEAST 5 days a week. Cardio on most days, but some strength training too.

    I don't eat fast food all the time every day, but most of my food choices tend to be on the less healthy side. I have good intentions just not good follow thru. It doesn't help that I have a husband who can eat 2 large pizzas and then lose 5 lbs because of it. I also have two little girls who keep me constantly on the go, and it is really hard for me to plan out meals. So fast is the key word in fast food.

    But every time I eat, I feel awful about myself because of all the posts I read. Everyone is always talking about how great they eat, and here I am struggling to find the time to breathe most days let alone plan out all my healthy meals each week! I am stressed.
  • songbyrdsweet
    songbyrdsweet Posts: 5,691 Member
    Does it matter what types of food I eat as long as I stay within my calorie range? Hypothetically, if I eat fast food all day every day...as long as I am within my calorie range for each day shouldn't I still lose weight? Not that I am going to do that :blushing: , but I am trying to keep myself from all the guilt trips I lay on myself when I indulge a little here and there.
    From experience and opinion it definately matters what type of food you put into your body..calories are just one element into the whole eating right routine. It would suck to get thin and find out your cholesterol and sugars are through the roof..or you have a fatty liver ...I really dont think anyone who is eating 1200 worth of "McDonalds" is going to lose weight because that is 1-2 meals a day....Now thats what I would call starvation mode...just my opinion..but when I was not eating right I would eat once or twice a day 1400 calorie and high fat ..I never lost a pound in fact I gained...now I eat more and way more often and lose pounds. Its the food choices....high fiber ,protein,vitamin rich foods is the way to go..:drinker:

    i just have to ask: when you ate 1400 cals w/high fat every day, were you exercising at all?

    i think this is where it gets interesting...i think metabolism is key: my brother eats like a pig and has nothing but fast/junk food EVERY DAY...i think he said the last time he ate a whole day of good food was two years ago, and he's RIPPED because he runs 20 miles a week, lifts four days, does cardio three days for only 30 min, and all of this is done in an enjoyable fashion with no real intensity. he's been eating like this his whole life.

    i, on the other hand, look at a poptart and gain half a pound...or at least i feel like it. i eat clean, stay within my calorie range, and exercise MORE than regularly with EXTREME intensity, as i did in the past...granted, i FEEL better on a clean diet, but now i'm barely even budging on the scale.

    at one point in time when i got super thin, 45% of my calories were fats (good fats), 50% carbs, and 5% protein...i lost weight like it was nobodys business...and when i went OVER on my fats, i had even BETTER results...

    i honestly wish i could hit the guy that invented the calorie, b/c it's done nothing more than confuse and beguile folks...

    sorry, went on a tangent...but i think we need to start thinking MACROnutrition instead of caloriescaloriescalories....

    You can actually become very ill from so little protein. 10% total calories from protein is an absolute minimum for a sedentary individual. Did you ever figure out how much that was per kg of body weight? Amino acids are necessary for more than just growing muscle. I agree that macronutrients are just as important as calories.
  • cquick
    cquick Posts: 220 Member
    sorry mamma, i should have made it more clear, i was directing the query to myastyme b/c i just wanted to see if she put in exercise while eating the high fat/1400 cal a day/eating 1or2 times a day thing just to see what her metabolism was like at the time...

    i have a suggestion: are your girls old enough to help you make or clean veggies n things? maybe just having them help in the evening with that, having them put their crackers in some baggies and make it a couting game or something and make it a "fun time with mommy" might help? maybe if you have one day with maybe 15 minutes where they help you pick out some yummy easy to prep food with you and make your guys menu might be fun? i saw a stack of food flash cards the other day in the kid section, if they can't talk yet maybe they know what they like when they see it and can point out their choice? i dunno, just trying to help, i understand how busy a mom can be...
  • cquick
    cquick Posts: 220 Member
    hey songbyrd, i did get a bad lung infection because i ate so little protein without taking glutamate and B vitamins....if i would have taken the supplements, my sports doctor says i wouldn't have had the problem...i kind of copied off his diet, he's been doin it for 15 years and is so beautifullyluciouslyripped...i heard him drop the numbers in passing...i didn't believe in vitamins...then yeah, i got super sick and when i talked to him, he said: Jesus C*****, you should've asked me first!

    yeah, that's what i get for absently eavesdropping and not being well-informed.:grumble: :grumble: :grumble:
  • TROUBLE2
    TROUBLE2 Posts: 6,660 Member
    Unequivocally YES... 100% YES... what you eat has everything to do with weight loss...

    lets think about this Processed foods is what got us to this point... you need to eat Whole grains/ LOTS of veggies and fresh fruits, and LEAN meats... this is what our body's are meant to eat not some chemically made up food... Sugars are bad for us, (in large quantities) everything in moderation afterall... sugar gets converted into fat, so does lots of carbs... just look at the contents of that Coke you drink... way over your DAILY allowance of sugars and thats with liquid... that is not adding all the rest of the food you ate today... chances are you just put 25 grams of fat into your system, now its in your blood as opposed to on your butt but still, thats even worse... youre heart is possibly your strongest muscle in your body, why weaken it with fatty sugars and processed foods???

    again I am only skimming the surface there are many other benifits to eating "Clean" as opposed to eating anything processed... my Doctor and Nutritionist both told me the same thing (different doctors) and that was to stear clear of the center of the grocceri store... stick to the outsides, the fruits, the veggies, the eggs, fresh lean meats and FISH... lots of fish... and you will for the most part be safe... however you sohuld ALWAYS read the labels on food.. ALWAYS... you should never neglect your food diet... as long as you excersize and eat clean you will drop weight like you would not believe... I lost 90% of what I had wanted in the first 2 months... thats not too bad for 18 pounds... and MOST of that was simply eating better...
  • leshawnturner
    leshawnturner Posts: 382 Member
    Does it matter what types of food I eat as long as I stay within my calorie range? Hypothetically, if I eat fast food all day every day...as long as I am within my calorie range for each day shouldn't I still lose weight? Not that I am going to do that :blushing: , but I am trying to keep myself from all the guilt trips I lay on myself when I indulge a little here and there.
    From experience and opinion it definately matters what type of food you put into your body..calories are just one element into the whole eating right routine. It would suck to get thin and find out your cholesterol and sugars are through the roof..or you have a fatty liver ...I really dont think anyone who is eating 1200 worth of "McDonalds" is going to lose weight because that is 1-2 meals a day....Now thats what I would call starvation mode...just my opinion..but when I was not eating right I would eat once or twice a day 1400 calorie and high fat ..I never lost a pound in fact I gained...now I eat more and way more often and lose pounds. Its the food choices....high fiber ,protein,vitamin rich foods is the way to go..:drinker:

    i just have to ask: when you ate 1400 cals w/high fat every day, were you exercising at all?

    i think this is where it gets interesting...i think metabolism is key: my brother eats like a pig and has nothing but fast/junk food EVERY DAY...i think he said the last time he ate a whole day of good food was two years ago, and he's RIPPED because he runs 20 miles a week, lifts four days, does cardio three days for only 30 min, and all of this is done in an enjoyable fashion with no real intensity. he's been eating like this his whole life.

    i, on the other hand, look at a poptart and gain half a pound...or at least i feel like it. i eat clean, stay within my calorie range, and exercise MORE than regularly with EXTREME intensity, as i did in the past...granted, i FEEL better on a clean diet, but now i'm barely even budging on the scale.

    at one point in time when i got super thin, 45% of my calories were fats (good fats), 50% carbs, and 5% protein...i lost weight like it was nobodys business...and when i went OVER on my fats, i had even BETTER results...

    i honestly wish i could hit the guy that invented the calorie, b/c it's done nothing more than confuse and beguile folks...

    sorry, went on a tangent...but i think we need to start thinking MACROnutrition instead of caloriescaloriescalories....


    So, yes to your question........I am exercising at LEAST 5 days a week. Cardio on most days, but some strength training too.

    I don't eat fast food all the time every day, but most of my food choices tend to be on the less healthy side. I have good intentions just not good follow thru. It doesn't help that I have a husband who can eat 2 large pizzas and then lose 5 lbs because of it. I also have two little girls who keep me constantly on the go, and it is really hard for me to plan out meals. So fast is the key word in fast food.

    But every time I eat, I feel awful about myself because of all the posts I read. Everyone is always talking about how great they eat, and here I am struggling to find the time to breathe most days let alone plan out all my healthy meals each week! I am stressed.

    I understand and feel your frustration!! I'm having that same problem, plus my co-worker is doing this Medifast thing and is ofcourse losing weight by leaps and bounds!!! I looked at her plan and you can't eat ANYTHING!!! :sad: I work all day and run around after my neices at night!! :sick:

    But I refuse to let the scale win!!! So I made my neices my workout buddies (they really liked the sound of that :happy: ) and everyday I recommit to myself. I literally have to tell myself everyday that "today I will make good decisions when it comes to food EVEN if I'm going out to eat!!" Don't get me wrong I still slip up and frankly some days I throw my good logic to the dogs :laugh: and have a good ole cheeseburger and fries!!! But when that happens, I'm learning not to beat myself up.

    I said all of that to say, as a person who also eats out a lot, I've started looking up the nutritional values of what I like to eat at my favorite fast food places. I know if I am doing good I will go to subway and get veggies on my sandwich. I can go to Long John's and get a kids meal (the cals are still high but the portion is a lot smaller), I know what i can get at taco bell, burger king, sonic, etc. I advise you to buy a calorie book (I like the book by the Calorie King) to keep in your purse or car. It has the calories for a lot of items at a lot of restaurants.

    Good luck!!!
  • TROUBLE2
    TROUBLE2 Posts: 6,660 Member
    i think this is where it gets interesting...i think metabolism is key: my brother eats like a pig and has nothing but fast/junk food EVERY DAY...i think he said the last time he ate a whole day of good food was two years ago, and he's RIPPED because he runs 20 miles a week, lifts four days, does cardio three days for only 30 min, and all of this is done in an enjoyable fashion with no real intensity. he's been eating like this his whole life.

    I would like to see your brothers Cholesterol and Glycemic level, not to mention his blood pressure... just because someone looks Ripped on the oustide doesnt mean their insides are not rotting...

    your overall health is not just how you look (oustide)... it has many many many variables that go along with it... you have over hundred organs and glands in your body and each one performs a function, and what you eat directley affects 50% of those organs/ glands... you heard about some of the strongest men in the world (Power lifters)? most of them have calcium crystals in their blood, because their body can not keep up with the amount of protien they are taking in... they do not drink enough water to balance and their kidneys are working 1000% harder than it should be... they are killing thier kidneys just to look ripped... everything has its price...
  • cquick
    cquick Posts: 220 Member
    hey there, trouble: my brother is 43 and he gets blood work done every six months b/c he's owned by the government....

    comes back clean as a whistle on everything (except his LDL are low, but he doesn't eat clean, so that's kind of a given)...clean as a whistle i'd like to strangle...grrr:explode:
  • SHBoss1673
    SHBoss1673 Posts: 7,161 Member
    i think this is where it gets interesting...i think metabolism is key: my brother eats like a pig and has nothing but fast/junk food EVERY DAY...i think he said the last time he ate a whole day of good food was two years ago, and he's RIPPED because he runs 20 miles a week, lifts four days, does cardio three days for only 30 min, and all of this is done in an enjoyable fashion with no real intensity. he's been eating like this his whole life.

    I would like to see your brothers Cholesterol and Glycemic level, not to mention his blood pressure... just because someone looks Ripped on the oustide doesnt mean their insides are not rotting...

    your overall health is not just how you look (oustide)... it has many many many variables that go along with it... you have over hundred organs and glands in your body and each one performs a function, and what you eat directley affects 50% of those organs/ glands... you heard about some of the strongest men in the world (Power lifters)? most of them have calcium crystals in their blood, because their body can not keep up with the amount of protien they are taking in... they do not drink enough water to balance and their kidneys are working 1000% harder than it should be... they are killing thier kidneys just to look ripped... everything has its price...

    Here here T! My brother is the same way, 6' 4" 185 lbs, skinny, looks like he is in great shape, but he eats crap, and thinks he can get away with it because he's a master carpenter, has an active lifestyle, and looks like the picture of health.
    BUT
    Last year had his cholesterol checked, and was OFF the charts high on his bad cholesterol, basically his arteries were littered with plaque, and he was at high risk of heart disease. So don't get too enthralled by skinny people, they can have food issues just like the rest of us. I can tell you right now that even though my body fat is now about the same as his ( about 11%) I am FAR healthier than he is.
  • singfree
    singfree Posts: 1,591 Member
    I am proof that the quality of the food I consume is as important as the total cals. I had a few junk food snacks over that last few days. My system did not like it one bit! I now look forward to a good meal, fresh veg & lean protein. I really can't see myself going back to the old way of eating. Thanks again, Banks for reminding us how important good nutrition really is.
  • July
    July Posts: 239 Member
    A calorie is a calorie - in terms of weight, it doesn't matter what type.
    But, you're probably going to be hungry if you use up all your calories on fast food.

    It's better to fit your junky food into your calorie count than fight against your craving for junky food and then give in, going over your calorie count - or even, going over your calorie count on not-junky food, which is what often happens to me. (Should I have eaten 5 apples - 500 calories - or just given in to the 2 Hershey kisses, 50 calories? Yes, I am capable of eating 5 apples in one sitting)

    I lost weight by fitting my junky food in. I had one rule - count it and fit it in.
    But make sure you get an accurate count!
  • hmo4
    hmo4 Posts: 1,673 Member
    bump
  • singfree
    singfree Posts: 1,591 Member
    The adage about calories in, calories out only goes so far. I am a FIRM believer that the quality of your food is perhaps more important than the total daily cal count. Your body wants, NEEDS a proper diet to function at its peak level. I can't imagine that anyone could possibly think that eating junk food all day, while staying within the prescribed caloric limit will result in a beautiful, healthy body.

    I personally know people who are alcoholics and are thin. Healthy...not a chance!
  • SHBoss1673
    SHBoss1673 Posts: 7,161 Member
    A calorie is a calorie - in terms of weight, it doesn't matter what type.
    But, you're probably going to be hungry if you use up all your calories on fast food.

    It's better to fit your junky food into your calorie count than fight against your craving for junky food and then give in, going over your calorie count - or even, going over your calorie count on not-junky food, which is what often happens to me. (Should I have eaten 5 apples - 500 calories - or just given in to the 2 Hershey kisses, 50 calories? Yes, I am capable of eating 5 apples in one sitting)

    I lost weight by fitting my junky food in. I had one rule - count it and fit it in.
    But make sure you get an accurate count!

    I wholeheartedly disagree with this statement. A calorie is NOT a calorie.

    Different types of food are digested at different rates and use different processes to become fuel for the body.

    Simple carbs are digested and turned into fuel much faster then complex carbs, protein has to be processed by a completely different process, which takes far longer, fructose (fruit sugar) has a different process of digestion then sucrose (table sugar) which also takes longer. What you eat is just as important as how much you eat.

    I.E. if you eat 1200 calories of twinkies and ho ho's, it's NOT the same as eating 1200 calories of a balanced (food pyramid) diet.

    Does that mean you should deny yourself all the things that you crave? No, it just means be smart, don't fill up on junk, plan your meals and food accordingly, give yourself a small but reasonable buffer in order to have the occational treat if you really want it. But don't use empty calories as part of your diet, that's enforcing a bad habit, one that we all OBVIOUSLY already had, and doesn't need any more re-enforcing.
  • sportygal
    sportygal Posts: 221 Member
    Try running your car on good gasoline...then put cheap gasoline......the car runs better on the high performance gas....although both times it would run, but in the long run what are you doing to the engine? That's my analogy to eating healthy foods vs. calories.:glasses:
  • nickybr38
    nickybr38 Posts: 674 Member
    I think people are not being entirely straight forward with their answers around here.

    The math doesn't add up. If you need a deficit of a certain amount of calories to lose, that's all you need. it shouldn't matter if the calories you do eat are coming from fast food or healthy food, you should still lose if the math is correct.

    You won't feel good. You probably won't last long, but in theory it shouldn't matter if you have a diet of strictly junk food as long as you stay within your calorie range for the day you theoretically should still lose.
  • MyaPapaya75
    MyaPapaya75 Posts: 3,143 Member
    I think people are not being entirely straight forward with their answers around here.

    The math doesn't add up. If you need a deficit of a certain amount of calories to lose, that's all you need. it shouldn't matter if the calories you do eat are coming from fast food or healthy food, you should still lose if the math is correct.

    You won't feel good. You probably won't last long, but in theory it shouldn't matter if you have a diet of strictly junk food as long as you stay within your calorie range for the day you theoretically should still lose.
    theoretically yes but I dont think the body works as cut and dry as that. ...you could stay within your calories all you want but if your sodium content is through the roof your not going to do anything more than gain a ton of water and retain. I think for the most part people expect easy answers and their isnt any ...hence the fact we still struggle with weight loss and obesity.
  • SHBoss1673
    SHBoss1673 Posts: 7,161 Member
    I think people are not being entirely straight forward with their answers around here.

    The math doesn't add up. If you need a deficit of a certain amount of calories to lose, that's all you need. it shouldn't matter if the calories you do eat are coming from fast food or healthy food, you should still lose if the math is correct.

    You won't feel good. You probably won't last long, but in theory it shouldn't matter if you have a diet of strictly junk food as long as you stay within your calorie range for the day you theoretically should still lose.

    again I disagree. The body is far more complicated then calories in vs calories out. If, in general you satisfy most of your macro nutritional requirements, then yes, calories in vs calories out is generally true (assuming you are within a reasonable range). But there are far more things to consider then just the fuel content of a calorie. I.E. are you providing your body with the macro and micro nutrients to properly function. If you aren't, I.E. eating mostly junk, then what processes are being hampered or slowed down (or sped up in the case of lots of sugar and chemicals) because of it. Also, what chemicals are building up in your system.

    So my point is, a calorie is a calorie In that it's still has the same thermic affect (energy produced) no matter what you eat, but the food we eat influences not only how much fat we store, but also how our body reacts to the food being eaten, eating calories with very little nutritional value will, over time, slow down our body, pack on fat, and reduce muscle tone, and therefore the TYPE of calorie DOES in fact, affect if and how we lose weight.
  • 12by311
    12by311 Posts: 1,715 Member
    I think people are not being entirely straight forward with their answers around here.

    I would have to disagree; I think people are being very straight forward.

    mamaof2girls: My suggestion is to start cooking ahead of time. I have an extremely hectic schedule and I try to plan my meals on the weekends for the upcoming week. I also try to use the crockpot often; I love my crockpot! Also, try to buy some fruits, veggies, nuts (baby carrots, almonds, strawberries, orange, clementines, apples, grapes, celery, etc....these are a few things, you could find in my purse, haha!) to package and carry as snacks. So that when you are out somewhere, you can snack on those, then eat your healthy dinner you've prepared ahead of time at home. :smile: Good luck.
  • Kimono
    Kimono Posts: 367 Member
    I have a lot of friends who are thin-basically because they eat very little calories a day. And the calories they do eat may be junk calories. But they are keeping the weight off for now. I know they are not healthy, I know I could woop their butts in any kind of physical activity. But yes they are thin. Simply because they burn more than they take in, calories in vs calories out. But this is sooo unhealthy. And I would much rather be healthy and set a good example for my kids.
  • nickybr38
    nickybr38 Posts: 674 Member
    I think people are not being entirely straight forward with their answers around here.

    The math doesn't add up. If you need a deficit of a certain amount of calories to lose, that's all you need. it shouldn't matter if the calories you do eat are coming from fast food or healthy food, you should still lose if the math is correct.

    You won't feel good. You probably won't last long, but in theory it shouldn't matter if you have a diet of strictly junk food as long as you stay within your calorie range for the day you theoretically should still lose.

    again I disagree. The body is far more complicated then calories in vs calories out. If, in general you satisfy most of your macro nutritional requirements, then yes, calories in vs calories out is generally true (assuming you are within a reasonable range). But there are far more things to consider then just the fuel content of a calorie. I.E. are you providing your body with the macro and micro nutrients to properly function. If you aren't, I.E. eating mostly junk, then what processes are being hampered or slowed down (or sped up in the case of lots of sugar and chemicals) because of it. Also, what chemicals are building up in your system.

    So my point is, a calorie is a calorie In that it's still has the same thermic affect (energy produced) no matter what you eat, but the food we eat influences not only how much fat we store, but also how our body reacts to the food being eaten, eating calories with very little nutritional value will, over time, slow down our body, pack on fat, and reduce muscle tone, and therefore the TYPE of calorie DOES in fact, affect if and how we lose weight.

    Dude, this is so contradictory when compared with any other weight loss information a person reads. :smile: Way to shake things up!

    Eating calories with little nutritional value will allow one to lose weight initially though, I'm sure you don't deny that. Long term it probably won't work out (which I said in my comment), but short term the weight will come off.

    So I think we do agree since I'm speaking short term and you're speaking long term.
  • SHBoss1673
    SHBoss1673 Posts: 7,161 Member
    I think people are not being entirely straight forward with their answers around here.

    The math doesn't add up. If you need a deficit of a certain amount of calories to lose, that's all you need. it shouldn't matter if the calories you do eat are coming from fast food or healthy food, you should still lose if the math is correct.

    You won't feel good. You probably won't last long, but in theory it shouldn't matter if you have a diet of strictly junk food as long as you stay within your calorie range for the day you theoretically should still lose.

    again I disagree. The body is far more complicated then calories in vs calories out. If, in general you satisfy most of your macro nutritional requirements, then yes, calories in vs calories out is generally true (assuming you are within a reasonable range). But there are far more things to consider then just the fuel content of a calorie. I.E. are you providing your body with the macro and micro nutrients to properly function. If you aren't, I.E. eating mostly junk, then what processes are being hampered or slowed down (or sped up in the case of lots of sugar and chemicals) because of it. Also, what chemicals are building up in your system.

    So my point is, a calorie is a calorie In that it's still has the same thermic affect (energy produced) no matter what you eat, but the food we eat influences not only how much fat we store, but also how our body reacts to the food being eaten, eating calories with very little nutritional value will, over time, slow down our body, pack on fat, and reduce muscle tone, and therefore the TYPE of calorie DOES in fact, affect if and how we lose weight.

    Dude, this is so contradictory when compared with any other weight loss information a person reads. :smile: Way to shake things up!

    Eating calories with little nutritional value will allow one to lose weight initially though, I'm sure you don't deny that. Long term it probably won't work out (which I said in my comment), but short term the weight will come off.

    So I think we do agree since I'm speaking short term and you're speaking long term.

    Sure, you will lose weight short term, but I never associate short term weight loss with health. Unless that short term loss is part of a long term healthy plan. Things to think about when talking about short term weight loss through calorie restrictive, nutrient low diets are 1) it's a lot less fat you are loosing then you think. 2) you're probably losing your excess glycogen stores, and that is probably a large part of the loss 3) you are probably losing water weight, which is another reason you are dropping pounds 4) you're basically poisoning your body 5) you're losing muscle mass 6) you're mentally re-enforcing bad habits.

    Make note that I said nutrient low diets. I see no issue with eating a low cal diet (within reason) as long as you do it with a healthy amount of fats, good carbohydrates, plenty of water, fiber, protein, minerals, vitamins, and exercise.
  • clk238
    clk238 Posts: 48 Member
    just wanted to add another twist in here- say you stay under your 1200 + workout cals, everyday you workout for an hour at 5am, then go to work(sedentary), have a 400 cal lunch, work, then go thome (sedentary) then eat the rest of your cals(800+) around 8pm, then go to be at 9:30. I've heard that it's SO BAD to eat late at night like that b/c you don't burn those cals.... and bad to eat a lot all at once no matter what time of day b/c you're not "fueling your body" for the next few hrs, it's like an overload.... thoughts?
This discussion has been closed.