How do you track when you have no idea?
Alatariel75
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I'm just quick adding a whole bunch of calories and moving on, but the completist part of me is also feeling bad about not even trying to track! So I'm just curious - what do you do when you've had a meal you have no hope of tracking accurately?
I went out for dinner last night at an Indo-Malay restaurant with the BEST food, there were 10 of us and we really did a "try everything" shared meal. As best as I can remember I had:
1 chicken satay skewer
2 scallops in laksa sauce
1.5 fish cakes
0.5 corn fritters
0.5 roti
small scoop beef rendang
small scoop fried rice
1 piece fried chicken
1 twice cooked pork rib
1 scoop fried Chinese broccoli
No idea on actual portion sizes, weight, cooking method etc etc so I just logged 1200 calories and called it a day.
How does everyone else deal with tracking a meal like this? (and please no "I wouldn't have eaten everything and would have ordered something I can track" - these meals happen seldom with a group of my oldest friends and I will always take a setback on the scale to enjoy one of them).
I went out for dinner last night at an Indo-Malay restaurant with the BEST food, there were 10 of us and we really did a "try everything" shared meal. As best as I can remember I had:
1 chicken satay skewer
2 scallops in laksa sauce
1.5 fish cakes
0.5 corn fritters
0.5 roti
small scoop beef rendang
small scoop fried rice
1 piece fried chicken
1 twice cooked pork rib
1 scoop fried Chinese broccoli
No idea on actual portion sizes, weight, cooking method etc etc so I just logged 1200 calories and called it a day.
How does everyone else deal with tracking a meal like this? (and please no "I wouldn't have eaten everything and would have ordered something I can track" - these meals happen seldom with a group of my oldest friends and I will always take a setback on the scale to enjoy one of them).
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If it's a one-time thing, just guess and move on. Based on your description of "try everything" and the type of food, and a quick look at the list, I would guess 1,500 calories. It could be hundreds higher or lower than that. Unless it's happening often, I wouldn't worry about the details.2
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I agree to move on and let it go… but I totally get it. What I would do if it were me… I would find the closest quick add food item and guess on how much I ate based on the recommended serving for that item… I usually pick the least healthy option from quick add as well when I don’t know what the restaurant uses to cook (butter, veg oil, olive oil).1
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I also think it's fine to let go and move on, but just one "admin" tip - if I end up eating and not tracking a bunch of different foods (occasional late-night binging over here), I use the recipe feature to get a rough count. That way I don't have to look up each food individually. I can just type in a list like the one you've done already and get an automatic calorie estimate for the lot.2
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While losing, I did my best to keep track of what I ate (as you have) and log it after. That was one time when I would use other people's recipe/dish calorie entries in the database most of the time (i.e., log "cheese lasagna" rather than deconstructing into X amount of pasta, Y amount of sauce, etc. I'd make my best guess at portion sizes. (The more I weighed foods at home, the better my size estimates got. It's OK to have a learning curve . ) I'd use a medium to high calorie example of the food from the database, not a lowball one or one that was high to the point of being an outlier. I'd just log it and go on, not worry over it: Worrying burns no extra calories and feels icky.
I'd point out that the calorie deficit through the week usually means there's still fat loss for the week, even with a high day, as long as not crazy high.
If it was polite and I could do it discretely, I'd snap a photo of the food with my phone camera (no flash!) to help me remember what I ate, and estimate portions. If it was a photo of my plate, I'd include a fork or something as a gauge of size when I logged later.
That worked fine, for me.
As time has gone on, I've gotten more relaxed (or more sloppy). I don't even always log that sort of thing, as long as it's rare. (I'm in year 8 of maintenance at this point.) One rare meal really is a drop in the ocean of life. I just watch the scale and clothes-fit, and cut back if weight creeps up in maintenance. My routine daily calorie goal is a very small bit below my actual estimated maintenance (by 100-150 calories, maybe), which creates a little wiggle room for extra indulgence once a week or so.
During loss, I'd plan days around known special eating occasions: Maybe banking a manageable few extra calories for a few days in advance of the event, certainly eating lightly during other meals that day, maybe doing some manageable extra exercise that sounded fun. (I don't generally think of exercise's point as "buying calories".)
Realistically, we can't pin down calories for a meal like that. Not eating like that (ever) is not something I'm willing to do, either, because good life balance matters. As long as it's rare, I think the thing to do is estimate, let it go, and see how the scale settles out after a week or so.
Managing my mindset around this sort of thing was part of learning how to better manage my weight, too.
(NB: After a meal like that, I'd expect a scale jump that could last anything from a few days to a couple of weeks, maybe longer in women with monthly cycles. Usually restaurant meals have more sodium and carbs than our standard weight-loss routine, and that will add water weight while those are digested/metabolized, not to mention the mass of food residue that will eventually exit as waste.)
Best wishes!
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If I'm eating out I check to see if that particular restaurant provides nutritional info....if not I choose a similar enough seeming entry...and I tend to add.... 50-100 quick add calories.
The nutritional info that restaurants provide is based on the recipes they are supposed to use...but in real life in a restaurant/fast food place....the workers aren't necessarily measuring/weighing everything (ex. I worked at a Dairy Queen and yes there are measuring spoons but you scoop light or heavy eventually or you use a different sized spoon in a pinch, etc....). So I just add a bit more to be safe.
Otherwise, if I truly couldn't find an entry or similar entry to add the ingredients piecemale.... I'd honestly just not log it and move on ... unless this is a daily thing it should all shake out more/less.0
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