Best realistic fiber goal for every day

tx2msrn
tx2msrn Posts: 1 Member

W...hite wheat and metamucil and fiber pills. Check your nutrition tab and see what your lacking in your daily nutrition facts

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  • Corina1143
    Corina1143 Posts: 4,532 Member

    I put fiber cereal on my yogurt and fruit for a little crunch. I also like the apple Metamucil crackers, just 1/2 serving.

  • Sup_er_Jen
    Sup_er_Jen Posts: 2 Member

    I mix ground flaxseed and chia seeds into fat free Greek yogurt topped with blueberries and kiwi for breakfast. Tons of fibre, good protein and healthy fats, plus I’m stuffed for hours!

  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,554 Member
    edited March 14

    Depends on the individual, I got rid of all my IBS symptom problems like constipation, bloating, gas and cramping by removing fiber to a much lower amount which made for a much better microbiome for me.

  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 35,967 Member

    There are some individuals like Neanderthin, so when I post this I'm not arguing with him.

    But if a person wants/needs more fiber, I wouldn't encourage them to get that fiber from supplements like metamucil and fiber pills. Getting fiber from food is a better, more health-promoting route: The fiber types are more diverse, tending to create a more diverse and healthy gut biome, plus the fiber-rich whole foods bring along a wealth of nutrients, both macro- and micro-nutrients.

    Getting nutrition from food is generally more health-promoting that getting it from supplements like metamucil/fiber pills, or from multivitamins and supplements.

    During my lifespan, quite a few essential and beneficial nutrients have been discovered by science. At that point of discovery, some of them were added to supplements and pills. They were in food all along. I'm betting the age of discovery isn't over, and those yet-to-be-discovered good things are in food already, too.

  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,554 Member
    edited March 14

    Thanks Ann and agree with your basic premise. If a person was already consuming a mostly whole food balanced diet then they would generally be consuming enough fiber where they more than likely are getting enough.

    Unfortunately the vast majority of the US population is consuming around half, 50% of their calories from UPF's and another 20% from processed so basically around 70% of the population could benefit from more fiber.

    The big problem arises in that scenario where it reduces microbial diversity and promotes an inflammatory environment where it alters our gut barrier function allowing harmful substances to pass into the bloodstream and in this environment there is a less than optimal production of SCFA's which actually fights the inflammation from UPF's.

    Basically most if not all the studies that show fiber as improving gut health and other digestive issues is based on comparing to the demographic that would also fall into the group or percentile that consumes the most UPF's so basically the studies compare to the SAD diet, where of course just about anything done will improve our gut health and our overall blood markers.

    My situation is different because I've removed most of the carb content in my diet to around 30g's a day and like I said totally resolved my lifetime of gut issues and I'll just mention my nagging rheumatoid arthritis which i had in both knees and in my hands, which both completely resolved with the keto diet and the keto diet being a very aggressive elimination diet reduces inflammation better than pretty much all other dietary interventions, except maybe the carnivore diet.

    So saying this is why I said it depends on the individual. For example there was a study in 2019 where fiber in 4 groups were analyzed with one increasing fiber and 2 others reducing fiber in different increments and one group were it was removed entirely. The one where they added more, showed both better and worst outcomes and the other 2 groups showed improvement in symptoms and the 1 group that remove all, every participant had complete resolve of their issues. So if increased fiber helps your situation better or makes it worse, it probably has something to do with your existing diet and your basic metabolic health.

    There are lot of studies and this particular one is actually based in a control study as apposed to the many observational ones usually sited as proof fo increased fiber through FFQ's.

  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 35,967 Member

    FWIW, I was previously diagnosed with IBS-C. The solution in my case was not decreasing fiber, it was increasing hydration (mostly) and making sure I don't lowball fat intake. (Fat isn't sating for me, and I can get too little if I don't pay attention.) Fiber isn't the only relevant variable, though it's an important one, of course.

    I didn't log back then, but I suspect I get more fiber now than I did back then, despite fewer calories. Normal now is 40 or so grams of fiber from food, no digestive tract issues.

    There's a lot of individual variation, I suspect.

  • totameafox
    totameafox Posts: 1,268 Member

    If I work at it I can get 20-30 grams of fiber in a day. but without trying I get 8 to 15 grams. I'm thinking of going back on to a stool softener as I'm not as regular as I'd like and I find the 8 to 15 grams a more natural way of eating for me. I have ibs-d but I also take mediation that screws with the water in your bowels. Higher fiber counters that side effect.

  • yirara
    yirara Posts: 10,371 Member

    I have no idea how much fiber I get in a day as I don't track it. But I'm trying to eat 30-40 plant-based fresh things per week, and since doing so I have much more regular bowel movements. Like my hypermobile intestines don't decide to store as much as they can, and then some anymore. I always do drink a lot because I always have a big mug of tea next to me, and when it's empty I either get up and get a new one, try to drink from my empty mug until I get annoyed and get some more, or either throw a teabag into the empty mug, or come back to my computer with hot water and no tea. Aaaanyway… I just assume I get enough fiber.

  • kerisameow
    kerisameow Posts: 1 Member

    I've been living primarily a plant-based lifestyle. Also, I log everything which shows nutrients and what I need. Fiber is a daily struggle. However, digestive issues have been a problem.

    A friend told me about her positive results from SEED, also known as DS-01. It's a prebiotic/probiotic. It's working as advertised.

    MyFitnessPal still tells me I need more fiber. IDK

  • springlering62
    springlering62 Posts: 9,224 Member

    don’t forget, all the entries on MFP are crowdsourced. Many are incorrect, and a good number of them, people only bother entering calories and the three macros: protein, fat and carbs.

    They don’t bother inputting sugars, fiber, iron, vitamin D, or even the fat breakdown from the labels.

    I’d start by double checking each entry you’re using for accuracy and completeness. You may be getting more (or less) fiber than you think you are.