Eggs? No eggs? Help!

I have been baffled by “cholesterol” and need help. 3 eggs in the morning hits my cholesterol over goal for macros. Yet, all the tips and dietary advice suggests my main source of protein is also the eggs considering I don’t eat much meat in the earlier part of my days. How can I balance this? Is it the eggs or the yolk? That’s my favorite part lol so hopefully not. What can I do and/or is this even something to consider, what’s the verdict on cholesterol these days? Any help appreciated!

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  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 35,854 Member

    First thing: IMU, dietary cholesterol is not a major determinant of worrisome blood cholesterol levels, with the possible exception of people who have a certain genetic predisposition, i.e., familial hypercholesterolemia. So, consider your personal health history and family health history as part of this issue.

    If you do want to minimize cholesterol intake, there are options.

    Speaking for myself, I don't eat meat at all, and don't eat large numbers of eggs, either. I've been ovo-lacto vegetarian for 50+ years. I don't hesitate to eat eggs for nutritional reasons, there just not one of my major food preferences.

    At breakfast, some major sources of protein are plain nonfat Greek yogurt, hot skim milk in my coffee, plus a bit from peanut butter powder used to flavor the yogurt or my oatmeal. Some people choose foods like protein pancakes or shakes/smoothies with protein powder, maybe protein oats. Later in the day, my main protein sources include other types of low fat dairy foods, traditional soy foods (like tofu and tempeh), the limited amount of eggs, and a mix of plant foods that contain protein but need to be somewhat thoughtfully mixed because of essential amino acid completeness or bioavailability limitations.

    In eggs, it is the yolk that carries the cholesterol. However, the yolk has other significant nutritional benefits, so personally I wouldn't go that route. Other people feel differently.

  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,537 Member
    edited April 2

    It's been a well choreographed ideology by the USDA from the beginning based on earlier flawed data which supports their agenda that animal protein should be limited and their obvious bias toward a plant based diet.

    Fortunately we have access to actual data for anyone willing to do the work since the WWW became the vessel for all the accumulated data that is available in the world. Although the USDA since 2015 said that cholesterol is not longer a "NUTRIENT OF CONCERN" here we are on MFP still delivering the same ideology and that's because even though the USDA has made this claim they don't believe it at all and were forced to admit they were wrong, and why…… because science…..and the new 2025 guidelines that will be available shortly, I think probably in june will show they want people to consume even less animal products, that's how messed up they are. Basically they're a product of industry lobbying with observational evidence which they can and do manipulate for any contingency they're advising which is self perpetuating and gives life to their echo chamber. Eggs are fine to eat as is the cholesterol they contain.

    Do the research, because the future of health care will be a seamless blend of AI algorithms, wearable technology, and diagnostic devices working together to monitor and manage health in real time which is in total contrast to the way western medicine is not only formulated but also administered and by people not properly educated across the broad spectrum of human biology. This hopefully will be the beginning of a better understanding of who we are and how we interact holistically and to work towards a better metabolic health. imo

  • tomcustombuilder
    tomcustombuilder Posts: 2,367 Member

    Wether cholesterol is good or bad for you is going to be most individual situation based mostly on genetics and how you actually process it. It is actually a very important substance.

    the best defense is to get it checked and get an arterial scan to check for blockages. That will let you know how your body is processing it.

  • regalo
    regalo Posts: 2 Member

    Yeah, you need to eat the yolk because that is where the amino acids are for help building muscle.

  • rileysowner
    rileysowner Posts: 8,371 Member

    Eat your eggs. Dietary Cholesterol has little or nothing to do with blood cholesterol for the vast majority of people.

  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,537 Member
    edited April 3

    We hear a lot that cholesterol is mostly genetic, alluding to, there might not much we can do about it and I'm here to give you my opinion on this based on the science as I understand it and please feel free to interject an opinion.

    Cholesterol is by mechanistic action, generic by definition, it can't be any other way.

    Most bodily functions are heavily influenced by genetics, not just cholesterol which includes processes like metabolism, immune responses, hormone production and our genes act as a blueprint for how these systems are built and operate. Other external factor such as environment, lifestyle, nutrition, and even social interactions can significantly influence how these genetic instructions are expressed and is basically referred to as "epigenetics" where certain genes are turned off or on by those external influences.

    One question that seems to confuse people a lot is in the belief that cholesterol comes in different forms like HDL and LDL which isn't true, There's only one type of cholesterol, basically "cholesterol is just cholesterol". The delivery for cholesterol for all of their functions within the body like cell membrane integrity, hormone production, and vitamin D synthesis, bile acid formation and production, cellular communication, proper nervous system function is done by the LDL lipoprotein because LDL is how cholesterol is delivered to our cells and HDL removes cholesterol and returns it back to the liver to be recycled. Both HDL and LDL are transport vehicles in the bloodstream, shuttling our cholesterol to where it's needed, or, in some cases, to where it shouldn't accumulate.

    Another common talked about concern other than cholesterol being mostly generic is that some people could have what's referred to as "familial hypercholesterolemia" (FH) which is true, but those people represents less that 1% of the population and actually south of 0.5 % so by all means have your doctor check for this mutation but chances are it's really not that relevant.

    Back to genetics. Every cell in the body has the ability to produce it's own cholesterol with the liver producing any short comings that are then transported to all cells and connect with the "receptors" on the outside of each cell that signal for cholesterol to be taken up that might need extra from additional demands or to maintain homeostasis. So now were at the point where those external factors like environment, lifestyle, nutrition etc. influence and external factors like exercise, smoking and body weight for example can either amplify or mitigate their impact and interacts with our liver function and LDL production.

    When we refer to "amplify or mitigate the impact" we're basically and not necessarily referring to the only factor but for most the primary one, which is "inflammation" Why inflammation is the key is it's ability to damage arterial walls and without damage to our arterial walls there is no space for any metabolites including LDL to penetrate causing more damage to the metabolic state of an individual.

    There's a lot of nuance regarding inflammation but I'll just leave it there.

    Basically it's not cholesterol that's the problem, it's a persons metabolic status regarding inflammation, so get that checked by your Doctor and if it's a factor maybe get a referral to a professional that deals with metabolic health and lifestyle intervention.😊

  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 35,854 Member

    Curious: What's the basis for saying that?

    Both yolks and whites contain all 9 essential amino acids in a good balance; both have a PDCAAS score of 1, the highest value. IMU, whites have more protein per calorie, yolks have more protein per gram.

    We could start something tantamount to a religious war here about which amino acids are most important for building muscle, but the answer certainly includes the 9 essential ones. Some will emphasize BCAAs: Leucine, isoleucine, and valine. Leucine maybe has an extra-high number of cheerleaders. Both yolks and whites contain those BCAAs.

    Among the non-essential amino acids - the ones our bodies can manufacture, loosely speaking - glutamine and arginine may have some secondary benefits to someone following a hypertrophy program. Yolks are high in arginine and glutamic acid, the latter being a contributor to glutamine production in the body.

    I doubt eating 3 whole eggs vs. 3 egg whites will noticeably tip the scales when it comes to muscle gains, but I'm no expert.

    Nutritionally, I still think the vitamin/mineral content of yolks is a bigger reason to eat them than the protein side of it. Yolks are most nutrient-dense overall.

  • tomcustombuilder
    tomcustombuilder Posts: 2,367 Member

    incorrect. The whites are awesome for aminos and muscle building. A lot of us, because of the lower calories and the lower fat content love whites but that all depends on what your goals are and what you want your macros to look like though.