Calories/Macros

Hi. I am 70 years young, 5'1", weigh 138. It has been a huge struggle to lose 8 lbs. I saw a dietician twice who discussed my BMR - 1083, TDEE - 1300-1490. She wants me @ 1100 -1250 calories. Has my carbs @ 50%. Fat -30%, Protein - 20%. I am not terribly active but I do walk every day & use weight machines at the gym twice a week. I have played with numbers on MFP - changing the % of macros but no matter what I try, I cannot get my calories to add up without going over or under on macros. I originally had carbs @ 40, fat & protein @ 30% but she changed it. I find it very difficult to get to the number of carbs because I do not eat a lot of foods (no beans, lentils, limited grains) I don't eat beef or dairy. I have increased exercise and steps & my weight is not budging. I weigh everything & track everything. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance

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  • tomcustombuilder
    tomcustombuilder Posts: 2,466 Member
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    Concentrate on the calories. Macros can be incorrect in relation on the app.

    Think of macros more in grams per day instead of ratios.

  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,631 Member
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    I lost 80 pounds just focusing on calories.

    The default macros on myfitnesspal are 50%Carb, 30%Fat, and 20%Protein, so exactly what your nutritionist/dietician said.

    When I was losing weight I naturally tended to eat more fats and less carbs, something like 35%C, 45%F, and 20%P. If I increased carbs too much I found myself hungry all the time. Eat the way you like to eat and ignore the "advice" other than calories. Seriously. I just left the default macros at 50/30/20 and paid little attention to them. Protein and fiber were the only things I really watched to make sure I was getting enough. I was getting plenty of fat just by regular eating, but protein I really had to work at getting sufficient amounts.

    As far as the numbers not matching, I'm not sure if you meant on the FOOD diary the calories don't match with the amount of macros? If that's what you meant, the database here has a lot of foods that are entered incorrectly. It is a crowd-sourced database and people put in what they want. You can enter your own foods into the database or you can check carefully before you use any already listed from the database. There are correct entries, they're just hard to find.

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  • Corina1143
    Corina1143 Posts: 4,725 Member
    edited April 18

    Calories count for weight loss.

    Macros help with satisfaction and general health.

    What's your main goal? Work on that one. Don't forget the other one.

    Best of luck. I've lost a total of 90 pounds and I've been working on the last 10 for about 2 years. I feel your pain.

    (I've been concentrating on general health. Guess I should pay more attention to weight)

  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,962 Member

    Calories in vs out will decide your weight loss. People may find 50-30-20 easier to adhere to than 40-30-30, I guess. But unless there exist kidney concerns or you're feeling lethargic and you are increasing carbs as a pick me up or something similar, I don't know of many compelling reasons why you would need to reduce protein and increase carbs by 10%. Now if you have a preference to do so or if there is some concern with the types of protein you were choosing etc etc, they may be a different story.

    In any case long term energy balance (measured in calories), regardless of macros, is what will drive long term changes to your weight level.

    It is not unexpected given your particulars (age, height, weight) that weight loss is not very fast.

  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,643 Member

    Your dietitian sounds like they're right out of school and has given you the representative accepted narrative when it comes to macro's. I would ask the purpose of increasing carbs by 10% and reducing fat by 10% as it relates to your personal metabolism and what you should expect from that change, in detail, written down, so you can take it with you. Your eating habits are another issue and I suggest eat what makes you feel the most satiated and satisfied, after that hopefully the calorie deficit that is required won't feel insurmountable and confusing.

  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 36,365 Member

    Here's what I think might be a key thing in your situation as you describe it, if I'm interpreting what you wrote correctly: It's absolutely not necessary to be exactly exact on macros every single day. Pretty close on average should be fine.

    If you're using free MFP, you can only manipulate macro percents in 5% increments. That may make it hard to get everything to balance out perfectly, too. Repeating: Close is fine.

    Further, it isn't macros that directly control weight gain/loss, it's calories. Your estimated calorie needs as a petite and older woman are low enough that losing weight very slowly is a good plan.

    When you say your weight isn't budging, what time period are you talking about?

    If your TDEE is accurately 1300-1490, and you're accurately eating 1100-1250, your daily calorie deficit is only somewhere in the range of 50 calories (1300 - 1250) to 390 calories (1490 - 1100). All of that is estimates, of course.

    Realistically, with that in play, the scale is likely to move quite slowly. If deficit were actually 390 every day, you'd be expected to lose about a pound of fat every 9 days. If it were only 50 every day, it would take 70 days to lose a pound. If it averaged in the middle, 220 calories, it would take about 16 days to lose a pound of fat. That's assuming perfect logging and accurate estimates.

    As context, most of us have water retention and digestive waste fluctuations of several pounds from one day to the next, or even one week to the next. Neither of those is body fat, but they affect the scale, and they can potentially mask slow fat loss for a surprisingly long time.

    I'm around your age (69), and fairly close in weight (134 this morning), but taller (5'5"). I'm generally in weight-maintenance mode these days, but a while back I needed to creep my weight back down a few pounds, like maybe 10-12 pounds because it had crept up over about 4 years since my initial larger loss in 2015-16. I didn't want to do some big calorie cut, so I set out to do it slowly, with a calorie deficit in the kind of range you're possibly at with the goals you mention. It can work fine. I lost the weight. It took a long time, but honestly - other than taking patience - it was pretty painless.

    Here's the thing, though: Because of that water/waste scale weirdness I mentioned, there were periods of up to 6 weeks where even my weight-trending app thought I was maintaining weight or even gaining. I was pretty sure that was incorrect - from literal years of continuous logging experience at that point, and from previous good results. I kept going.

    If I'd relied simply on watching my scale weights rather than the weight trending app, I'm sure things would've sometimes looked unproductive even longer than 6 weeks at times. But eventually the scale and the app ended up where I hoped/expected, when I averaged a long enough time period to see it.

    For me, it took around a year to lose the 10-12 pounds. If it were a year, the "looking backward" calorie deficit was yielding around a pound a month average fat loss, which would be a 125 calorie average daily deficit. You may be losing fat a bit faster than that, but still quite slowly. It will take time to show up on the scale.

    I'm not trying to encourage you to lose faster. I do empathize that you want to lose those some more weight. A key question IMO - a doctor question, maybe: Are the pounds you want to lose risking your health? Too-fast loss does increase health risks. I can't speak for you, but for myself one difference I notice with age is that my body isn't as forgiving if I over-stress it, compared to when I was lots younger. Fast loss is a physical stress. If we're so overweight that the weight is causing health problems, maybe the risk is worth it. Otherwise, slow loss seems like a good idea to me.

    Back to the macros:

    Technically, protein and fats contain essential nutrients, so we need to eat a certain absolute amount of those. The percents are more of an approximation. Unless a person has a relevant health condition - such as diabetes or insulin resistance - carbs are more flexible. Different people prefer different carb levels, but any level is fine where your appetite or energy level aren't responding badly to that carb intake.

    A lot of people get enough fat without paying it much attention. It sounds like you're one of them: That's good, makes things easier, maybe. Protein is more commonly something people find they need to watch to get an adequate amount, though that's not universal. If you're low on that, that's worth working at.

    Personally, I like a rule of thumb that estimates protein minimum at 0.6-0.8g daily per pound of goal weight. If someone wants a more specific estimate with detailed justification, there's an evidence based protein calculator at a site I'll link below, a site that's generally regarded as neutral and up to date. If overweight, it's OK to use goal weight in the calculator, because protein is for maintaining our lean mass. We don't need bunches extra to maintain our fat mass.

    https://examine.com/guides/protein-intake/

    We do need more protein as we age, and it becomes more important to spread it across the day for better absorption compared to what younger folks may be able to do. If you want to learn more about that, this may be a helpful resource, though possibly a bit on the technical side for some people's tastes:

    https://www.jamda.com/article/S1525-8610(13)00326-5/fulltext

    It sounds like you're OK on fats, and I think it's fine to set your carbs anywhere that lets calories balance where you want them. And even with macro goals set - as I said - pretty close on average is fine, no need to be exactly exact daily. Nutrition and calories are important, but getting too wound up in the details is more of a threat to mental health and well being than a help to good physical health, potentially.

    Best wishes!

  • allthatjas515
    allthatjas515 Posts: 12 Member

    @AnnPT77

    Thank you. My dietician reviewed what I eat & everything is nutritious. She told me protein is 0.8 grams per kg., not per lb. I get enough protein. She estimated low on TDEE (1300 based on sedentary) & told me to gradually increase activity so that is all estimated. Since I began last May, I lost 10 lbs. in 11 months. That is painfully slow for me but I did have a major health issue, surgery & recovery so I am trying not to be too hard on myself. She told me to concentrate on the calories and the carbs (she was adamant about 50%). She knows my medical history, etc. & I trust her. Hopefully being back in the gym will give me more encouraging results. Thanks for your input.