Does anyone find it weird when people freak out over consuming an extra chocolate bar?

Like at my worst I would eat…
Two bags of chips, a bag of coloured or caramel popcorn, onion dip, a 1.5L of diet coke (lol), 2 bags of sweets and a block of chocolate
or…
Two pizzas, a garlic bread, chicken wings, a drink and chips (usually over two days, but still not good).
It just seems… extreme. Sorry if this seems insensitive. It just seems like if you are only over by a chocolate bar, you don't have that much of a problem.
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To be fair, if you are freaking out over that chocolate bar, you can nip the weight problem in the bud earlier and probably won't develop a binge eating problem. You'll also be closer to your goal weight.
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I still do the pizza thing sometimes, just less often… like once every two or three months, but I would probably just eat half a pizza.
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I think that food can be one of the biggest head*kittens* there is, because it's so talked about, stigmatised, shamed, judged, revered, worshipped, glorified, commodified, celebrated, commercialised… every 3rd store front is a food shop, every 2nd commercial is for food, every holiday centres around what's being served, traditions are built on it, literally it is the greatest shaping element of humanity, and to top it all off… we can't live without it.
And so people grow up hearing a million different things about food, perspectives, devil of the decade, eat this, don't eat that, fat makes you fat, sugar gives you cancer, MSG is the devil, wait, no it's not, acai will make you live to 100, this is a superfood, no wait, that's a superfood, you need to eat this to stay young, your gut health is ruining your life blah, blah, blah…
And so no, I don't find it weird at all, because food is a head*kitten*. The *kitten* around food is a head*kitten*. We are all so conditioned in different ways to have all these feelings and reactions and guilt and shame, at something that can give so much pleasure and satisfaction… It sucks, and it's sad and it's frustrating and I totally understand those people because I've been those people, and I know my thoughts around eating are disordered as hell and I just manage to override myself with logic and knowledge and often I don't succeed.
I've also been the mega-binger, and the restricter, and the moderator…
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I really wish I knew what words the kitten was covering lol. Would make an entertaining read.
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Other people are other people. Their reactions stem from their own personalities, past habits, personal histories, and more. If they say they're feeling some way about some thing, I believe them. If they say something feels like a problem, I believe that, too, and feel some empathy.
That's true even if I wouldn't feel the same way in the same circumstances (as I understand the circumstances from what they've written).
In a "do I feel that way" sense, no, I don't understand freaking out over some candy bar that may not even take a person who's losing weight above their maintenance calories. Honestly, I don't see the point of freaking out over any kind of eating, including over-eating by a large Detroit-style pizza all by myself, maybe a couple of high-test beers to wash it down, a whole pint of calorie-dense gelato, and some chocolate truffles as a finishing snack . . . or whatever. Personally, I tend to dislike drama, and definitely dislike feeling icky. Self-recrimination feels icky to me. But that's me, not other people.
How I look at it for myself is that over-eating is always a decision, not something that "just happens". If it's a good decision, I need to own the consequences and decide how to adjust for them. Freaking out doesn't help. If it's a bad decision, I need to figure out how to minimize the risk of repeating it. Improving the plan to minimize those risks can be anything from simple to needing professional help, depending on the situation, and that's OK, too.
I also don't really see the point of assessing comparative misery. If someone's mom died, my first reaction isn't going to be "that's not such a big deal, both my parents died" even though they did. It's going to be sympathy. Sure, that's an extreme scenario, and sometimes if it seems right I'll talk about similar (or worse) circumstances in my own life and how I felt about them or dealt with them . . . but only if I think/hope it will help them in some way. I'm sure I get it wrong sometimes, too. We're all struggling humans here, and communication is not only challenging, but requires all parties to be listening and responding with understanding and good faith. It's complicated.
I screw it up all the time, but my overall goal is to try to be a decent human, to myself and to others. That's pretty much it.
If they're freaked out about a candy bar, and want help, I'll try to help. That has more to do with my personal goal than with their personality or reaction, I think. YMMV, since we're all unique people, and that's a good thing.
Best wishes!
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I have to freak out about a chocolate bar, because if I dont, I would do it every day and never lose weight.
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Sending hugs. Are wafer bars available where you are? Maybe a small bar of 100-120 calories. Should be possible to fit into any diet.
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While I don’t freak out over 1 day of eating excess …I don’t like to make it a habit. I do think on.. why did I overeat or make those choices?
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I find it weird that you find it weird.😁
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if I open the door to sugar it stays open. I’m much better off health wise if I never eat it. Some natural sugar is inevitable , but candy certainly can be avoided at all costs. I think of white sugar as poison.
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HAHAHAHA! So I go to a movie and within that time I'll eat 2 hotdogs, a nachos with cheese, a small popcorn with butter and a box of Milk Duds washed down with a diet Coke. Nothing goes home with me. I just finish it. Granted I usually come early so I'm chowing down during the previews.
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if you mean yourself freaking out, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, and an extra chocolate bar is just an extra chocolate bar.
I do it every few weeks. But I don’t make a habit of it, because no way am I going to be obese again.
There’s always that specter, breathing down my neck, to keep me in line.
If I do eat one, it’s generally going to blow through any deficit for the day but seldom takes me over maintenance.
If you’re talking about other people……I play bunco with a ladies group once a month. They knew me when I was obese and watched (like hungry hawks) through my losing process. I eat what I want when I go. I may try to minimize it by having a heavy snack or even dinner before I go. I used to take a giant container of popcorn to share, knowing I could eat that and stay reasonable, until I stopped after the woman hosting that month got unreasonably mad over the popcorn. She hasn’t spoken to me since and avoids me if she can help it. 🤷🏻♀️
But mostly, I pig out.
I see the side eyes and can read the silent thoughts “how’d she lose weight doing that? She’s gonna blow up and be fat again. What’s the deal? Is she bulemic?”
They don’t know that I banked calories for a few days, and/or ate a small breakfast and lunch earlier in the day to bank some more.It used to bother me, but I finally learned, that’s their problem, not mine.
Now, about half the group is on a GLP, and several have lost quite a bit of weight. Bully for them, but that seems to make the comparison even worse They don’t know the weight training and other workouts I do,and I learned long ago they don’t want to hear about the “punishing” calorie counting.All they see is me, happily devouring stuff with no apparent consequences.
If they want to freak out, let ‘em. I’ve been in maintenance for years now and would be an awfully good source of experience to take advantage of, if they cared to.
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and btw typically the only chocolate bars I keep in the house are the 40gram “mini” bars that come in a six pack from Lidl (and probably Aldi).
Bigger than a Hershey’s mini, smaller than a Hershey bar. They vary from 220-240 calories each so if I do go buck wild and have two, or even three, it’s not an earth shattering crisis.
Even better are the chocolate marzipan bars they sell at Easter and Christmas. About 100 calories each.I keep all chocolate in the freezer
Frozen chocolate is not worth the hassle to eat. I have to really really want one. The ones that are in there now have been there since around Christmas
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Is it weird for people to freak out? Not really.
People have to find their own way.
I know that the first few months I was on MFP I would not have trusted myself with full sized candy bars. At best I would use protein bars as candy bars. My deficits were also appreciable at that time.
Is it productive in the long run to freak out and, more importantly, to CONTINUE to freak out?
A major problem I identified for myself a good ten years ago was that I had yet to manage to maintain a substantial weight loss for a substantial period of time. To the point that I was reluctant to even attempt to lose weight.
So, a good part of my weight loss time frame involved thinking about, trying to discover methods and strategies and backstops and habits, doing everything I could to set myself up with as many tools and options as I could at the time in order to manage maintenance.
In fact, I wasn't even willing to say the word "maintenance". My thoughts were framed around delaying regain and managing to maximize time at a reduced weight!
Am I going to pretend that I am not playing just a tiny bit with fire when I have had complete meals that consisted 100% of deserts? Or when I have days logged where 1500 Cal were food and 1500 Cal were candy bars? Nope!
Of course I AM playing with fire on these days. And if every day were like these days then the five week projection would probably not come out very well ;-)
But, the good news is that every day is NOT like these days! And it doesn't have to be. And the majority of your days is what (for most of us) influences the direction of our weight.
Equanimity (and trying to figure out why we do some stuff and how we can maybe find ways to modify or contain our proclivities) is WAY more long term productive than freaking out and swearing off till the next time we crash and burn!
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well, yes , like anything candy CAN be avoided at all costs
just like people who are allergic to x thing avoid it at all costs and it would be worth freaking out over if one inadvertently consumed x thing. X is the equivalent of poison to them.
But most of us can consume white sugar in sensible amounts if we want to
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