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  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 38,127 Community Helper

    In Android, it looks very different, and some of the page elements take a few moments to load, so it looks incomplete initially. But I think all the usual stuff is there.

    It looked like it was going to prefer the plan thingie at first, then I found a "search for food" button and could add foods to my diary in the usual way.

    I'm a little confused still, and how things are grouped on pages is quite different, but I think it might be OK once I figure it out . . . maybe even more direct than before, in some respects.

    Way different look& feel for sure, though.

  • SummerSkier
    SummerSkier Posts: 6,034 Member

    Well I have IOS. I updated the app yesterday evening after reading here and it refreshed and logged me out and then in but I see no changes. Maybe because I have premium (I do that to avoid the ads mostly).

  • Jthanmyfitnesspal
    Jthanmyfitnesspal Posts: 3,803 Member

    Here’s what the IOS App “Home page” looks like to me:

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    Note the lack of weight trend!

    I agree that the app should focus on your diary: that’s where it all happens. I disagree with not showing current weight or weight trend. I also continue to disagree with eliminating the “feed,” which reported news from your “friends,” as they chose to share. What’s the point of having “friends” if you don’t get any updates about them?

    They’ve also eliminated the flexible “copy meal from” capability.

    Note that the online interface hasn’t changed a bit. This pertains to the IOS app only. (I don’t know about the Android app.)

  • Jthanmyfitnesspal
    Jthanmyfitnesspal Posts: 3,803 Member
    edited October 15

    I’m also still salty about the “Plan” menu being an add for MFP “Premium+”. If you’ve been a premium member as long as I have, it’s galling to be asked for more money for anything. Also, meal planning is a tricky business as many of us have a spouse and perhaps children living with us. I share meal planning, shopping, and prep with my spouse, who doesn’t use MFP. (She struggles with weight control, tried MFP but hated it. Perhaps not surprisingly, her shopping style is a bit haphazard.)

    How many people want to do all their family meal planning via MFP?

    I can sort of see why they might want to add it as a feature. It’s exactly what some people need for success.

  • springlering62
    springlering62 Posts: 10,304 Member
    edited October 15

    @jthanmyfitnesspal I must still have the old version. I still have copy to/from in my diary and use it several times a day.

    If that’s gone, this a supremely irritating and time consuming loss.

    I also still have the diary tab

    Part of my home page is marked “beta”, though, so maybe my update is postponed?

    What’s annoying is that ever since the boards were updated, punctuation no longer works, and the @ function for flagging other users doesn’t work half the time either, as witness this post.

    Screenshots of my current iOS home/dashboard page.

    Start a Habit has been in beta mode for months. Haven’t bothered with it after looking at it the first time.

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  • springlering62
    springlering62 Posts: 10,304 Member

    btw that perfect, un-jagged “gain” is the three weeks I had no access to a scale, and it peaked with airplane weight. Very satisfying to see it plummet so quickly.


    If only regular life were like that!

  • springlering62
    springlering62 Posts: 10,304 Member
    edited October 15

    I do like that they’re adding the swipe right to copy function on other meals besides breakfast. That’s handy, because I typically eat the same breakfast and snacks every day.


    but if they’ve killed off the “copy to/from”, that’s just plain stupid. I often copy yesterday’s dinner to today’s lunch, or copy last Sunday’s dinner because we usually have the same thing every Sunday. (My husband does like his steak and potato!)


    “Swipe right” to copy yesterday isn’t going to work for dinner leftovers now being lunch


    surely programmers have enough sense to recognize this is an absolute necessity?

    I also noticed that I can’t copy to/from for more than a week or two. So if I want to copy the same lasagna dinner I know I had last month, I have to reenter the whole danged thing. The “recipe” is there under meals, but I sometimes don’t remember the proportion if I forget to write it on the freezer bag, and then there’s the salad, garlic bread etc. it’s so much easier to copy a meal than to reenter every piddly detail.

  • springlering62
    springlering62 Posts: 10,304 Member

    oh dear. I have an “update” app button available.

    Now I’m scared…..

  • Jthanmyfitnesspal
    Jthanmyfitnesspal Posts: 3,803 Member
    edited October 15
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  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 38,127 Community Helper

    There is a "copy previous" function in the My Meals tab on the page where you add foods to your diary. However, it appears only able to copy yesterday's meal, and only the meal in the same meal slot. That's insufficient. It also wildly misrepresents the calories and macros of that yesterday's meal on the page where it presents it to you and wants you to hit a check mark to add. (It says yesterday's lunch had 1659 calories. Trust me, it didn't.) If there's a way to copy a different meal or a different day's meal to today, I haven't found it.

    I also can't find a way to add today's meal to My Meals. I can only find a way to create a new entry in My Meals by searching/adding the individual foods. That's insufficient, too.

    The "swipe right to copy" function has never existed on Android, AFAIK. In general (even beyond MFP), in Android, swiping right/left moves between pages in an app or between apps. Some of the things that are implemented in Apple MFP with a swipe are a long-press in Android, historically (such as the option to delete a food from the diary . . . at least my understanding is that that used to be a swipe in Apple MFP).

  • mtaratoot
    mtaratoot Posts: 14,939 Spam Moderator

    "If it ain't broke, add more features."

    Hey; wait! If we shoot ourself in the OTHER foot, then everything matches. It seems the developers ar trying to drive away the customers. How crazy is that?

  • springlering62
    springlering62 Posts: 10,304 Member

    I don’t have the new version on my phone yet. I forgot to charge it, so am looking at the web version on my iPad.


    it (for now) gives me the option to toggle between current diary (have always disliked the format) to the new version. The new version seems to be identical, but larger print and easier to read, which also means easier to click, since everything is larger,

    It also seems to be easy to copy meals from any dates, any meal to any date, any meal.

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    is it the apps that are all goofed (politer word there) up?

  • springlering62
    springlering62 Posts: 10,304 Member

    I experimented with actually copying. In three tries one did absolutely nothing, the copy yesterday worked fine, and copying a random meal from earlier this week to “dinner “ tomorrow also worked ok.

    Now, what I do miss, is an “edit” button to delete an entire meal. It appears you have to erase items line by line. My carrot cake protein pancakes have upwards of twenty ingredients. That’s a lotta trash cans if I decided to have cottage cheese, muesli and honey for a quick breakfast.

    BTW, I do notice the punctuation and capitalization is spot on on the web version, so the maddening issue I’m having must be the iOS app.

    I also miss the calorie “goal” with net leftovers. The new diary tallies goal + excercise into a “daily goal”, and then gives net remaining. I prefer to see it spelled out individually, Nitpicky, and of course I know what my daily goal is, but I liked seeing it in the sequence. It just gave me a more…satisfying (?) view to relate to. Somehow, 2673 confuses my head, and I need as little confusion and diversion with weight as possible.

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  • springlering62
    springlering62 Posts: 10,304 Member

    …..and on the off chance anyone, someone from the company reads this board of older, wiser been-there done-thats for tips (as if), for heavens sake, bring back some kind of useable friends feed or function.


    You’re killing us out here, man.

  • Jthanmyfitnesspal
    Jthanmyfitnesspal Posts: 3,803 Member

    @springlering62 : The ipad app looks more like the web page, which hasn't changed (yet).

    The web page is much more useable than the app at the moment. You can do all the stuff that @AnnPT77 points out is missing, including copy to/from and "Remember meal."

    If you want to put a name to our pain, it's "Francisco Partners," who currently own MFP.

  • Jthanmyfitnesspal
    Jthanmyfitnesspal Posts: 3,803 Member

    This is kind of interesting:

    https://www.franciscopartners.com/investments/myfitnesspal

    This page links to the team of young faces at FP involved with this investment. Looking at them, I'm imaging how they are all judged internally by how well they do in turning a profit. They paid $345M for it in 2020 and we're now at the 5 year point, which is when an investment like this is supposed to sink or swim. I bet they projected they could sell it for $1B in 5 years (or something like that). Upper management now pressures them to show some progress. They pressure the development team to show something new. And, voila, you get a hasty update like this.

  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 38,127 Community Helper

    I'd suggest reading this, if you haven't:

    https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10950333/introducing-the-brand-new-today-tab

    In several spots, it mentions that certain things we're used to being able to do are not there, but will be added soon.

    Do I believe that? How soon is soon? Whole different discussion.

    Bottom line, in my view, is that they've released the Today page version onto the world too early. They should've waited until those useful functions - things lots of us use daily - were present.

    Also, the timeststamp on the above-linked thread suggests it didn't get out until hours or more after the Today thing was released, unless there was an earlier version that this supplanted.

    This is really bad new-version management.

  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 38,127 Community Helper

    P.S. It would be more effective to report problems/complaints over in the Feature Suggestions and Tech Support Questions parts of the Community. The staff do read those.

    When we talk about it here, we're just venting with no potential to have any impact whatsoever . . . not that we'd have lots of impact there. But at least posting problems there has some potential effect.

  • Jthanmyfitnesspal
    Jthanmyfitnesspal Posts: 3,803 Member

    I've posted a lot on Reddit. If you're interested, check out r/myfitnesspal. There is a pinned post from MFP there explaining the update and linking to the page that @annpt77 posted. The advantage to expressing your unhappiness there is that anyone curious about MFP can read it. You can also follow r/chronometer, which is probably where we're all going if we get tired of MFP!

    Certainly, if you get tired of our small cadre here, Reddit is a good place to go. Some here might like r/AskWomenOver60, r/loseit, and r/health (which gets a little political these days, since health has been highly politicized).

  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 38,127 Community Helper

    I'm not going to rage quit immediately.

    Experience suggests that when I've instantly rage-quit things - various things - it increases the overall net chaos in my life.

    On top of that, from long career experience, I know that humans always hate dramatically new software, even good software they'll eventually like better than the old thing (once they learn it and feel competent again with the new thing). I'm a human, so I react that same way.

    Yes, this update is bad. I may quit eventually. For now, I'm waiting, watching, coping.

    If I quit, I have to learn a new app from scratch and build up history there, meet and evaluate the insightfulness of unknown-IRL people in a new social networking site, and more. Here, for the moment, I'm using an app that I basically understand even though it looks different, and I have a bunch of history data. I have a general idea about the regular posters here, who's on a similar wavelength and knows things I should pay attention to, and who . . . isn't that. 😉😆

    That new learning curve and habit adjustment has to be worth it - or unavoidable - before I'm going to do it.

    My easiest course as I see it, among the available options, is to stay here at least long enough to see if they sort out the most egregious stuff fairly quickly. I like easy.

  • Jthanmyfitnesspal
    Jthanmyfitnesspal Posts: 3,803 Member

    @AnnPT77 : I’m making a lot of noise, but, since I’m not actively cutting right now, I’m happy to let it play out, just as you say.

  • Jthanmyfitnesspal
    Jthanmyfitnesspal Posts: 3,803 Member

    here’s today’s odd bug


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  • SummerSkier
    SummerSkier Posts: 6,034 Member

    Oh I have been seeing that one for a while ….. And the whole explanation is pretty wrong. At least with the upcoming diary changes they really did things the correct way - the 2nd time. Asking for feedback and providing us previews. Of course the first time they just changed it. 😏 My phone has not changed yet so I guess it is just filtering out to the masses. I mostly use the AP to log food and update my weight so not sure it will be a huge deal.

  • BigDfromNJ
    BigDfromNJ Posts: 123 Member

    Back from a lovely short hiking vacation. Day 1: 9 miles, 3,000ft elevation change! Day 2: 8 miles, easy 800ft elevation change; Day 3: easy 2-mile hike. Feeling quite energized and ready to face whatever comes my way!

  • woman3x
    woman3x Posts: 11 Member

    Wow - Stepped away for a while and so many posts to catch up on !

  • springlering62
    springlering62 Posts: 10,304 Member

    My new tagine is here!

    It’s been years since I broke my other one, but after a trip to Morocco, it was the first thing I ordered when I got home.

    Coming up very soon: a super traditional chicken, olive and preserved lemon tagine, couscous, and a traditional Moroccan tomato and onion salad.

    I also received my Honey & Co cookbooks. The “for just us two” recipes look comparatively easy and tasty in the first one I’ve browsed. Haven’t gotten to the larger meals or dinner party recipes yet. We were over the moon over their pomegranate chicken dish at the restaurant, and husband is already asking if it’s in either book.

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