Living with the Result of Other People's Thinking

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albayin
albayin Posts: 2,524 Member
I just read this quoted from Steve Jobs. I sat there and thinking: yeah that's me. I have been living the way other people want me to live but I still feel so insecure and constantly seeking other's approval. It upsets me every time when I talk to people I know about myself but at the same I can't blame but myself because I ask for it. :(

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  • hooah_mj
    hooah_mj Posts: 1,004 Member
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    Be brave and do one thing completely out of character for yourself!
    Learn to play the guitar/piano or take a risky class/course...even belly dancing or line dancing...break out of yourself.

    I believe in you!
  • CaptainAmerica1970
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    Well, that is very insightful, and profound. It saddens me to hear that this. That is where Christ comes in, Because he has no longer given us a spirit of condemnation but a spirt of freedom. He has set the captives free, free from all types of self condemnation, free from others opinions and expectations, free to be who you were created to be, free to be.
  • shanmont
    shanmont Posts: 66 Member
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    i as well heard this same quote this morning and it was soo powerful.
  • vick9180
    vick9180 Posts: 144 Member
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    What matters most is not how others perceive you, but how you perceive yourself. If you're not happy about the legacy you would leave behind, then figure out what you need to change to be happy with that. What do you want to be remembered for? If that's constantly in the back of your mind, then your daily decisions become easier to make because you're deciding for your future...and as Jobs said, everything else is secondary. You can never feel accepted by others if you, yourself, don't accept you first. :heart:
  • sagetracey
    sagetracey Posts: 607 Member
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    Oh yes, I fell into that trap many years ago. I wasn't much lower in weight than now and looking at patterns for wedding dresses. The measurements said I was a size 24, even though I was wearing a size 16 at the time. My mother looked at it and said, yes, that would be right, you've got big bones. I believed her and promptly gained a mountain of weight.

    And years later when I lost weight she told me that I would never be small because I had big bones. Boom, repeat weight gain.

    This time, butt out dear (morbidly obese) mother. I'm thinking for myself and I will decide what weight is right and healthy for me.
  • BigDaddyBRC
    BigDaddyBRC Posts: 2,395 Member
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    I just read this quoted from Steve Jobs. I sat there and thinking: yeah that's me. I have been living the way other people want me to live but I still feel so insecure and constantly seeking other's approval. It upsets me every time when I talk to people I know about myself but at the same I can't blame but myself because I ask for it. :(

    Realization of that which obvious, though we allow ourselves to overlook, is a brilliant basic need for living now. Welcome to the fold.
  • albayin
    albayin Posts: 2,524 Member
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    What matters most is not how others perceive you, but how you perceive yourself. If you're not happy about the legacy you would leave behind, then figure out what you need to change to be happy with that. What do you want to be remembered for? If that's constantly in the back of your mind, then your daily decisions become easier to make because you're deciding for your future...and as Jobs said, everything else is secondary. You can never feel accepted by others if you, yourself, don't accept you first. :heart:
    You could be totally right. I think my problem is I have never had a proper idea about how I should be. I wanted to be appreciated and approved that I am doing alright. At the same time I kind of forget what I am doing and why I am doing it.
  • livnlite
    livnlite Posts: 520
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    I guess we all do to a certain extent. There are socially acceptable and legally acceptable behaviour that we all generally abide by. That's what keeps us on a level playing field and socially accepted by others. On a personality level though .. that is somewhat but not completely different. Individualism is acceptable if keep within certain boundaries. Never cave so much that you become someone you dislike.

    WE all need to 'find' ourselves, so to speak, as we grow older and mature. You have to decide first what kind of person you want to be .. and by that I mean you have to pick your personality traits that YOU find acceptable (whether it be polite, kind, generous, mean spirited, jealous, greedy .. etc etc) and then make it happen.
  • myofibril
    myofibril Posts: 4,500 Member
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    Your opinion of yourself will always be more important than pretty much anyone else other than people who are very close to you. How could it ever be different when they simply cannot know what it truly means to be you as an individual? They have not walked in your shoes, gone through what you have, understand all the parts it takes to make you who you are as distinct from someone else. Their assessment will always be imperfect as it is based on imperfect information. Therefore it is secondary to your own as you are aware of all the pieces of the puzzle

    Once you know this on a deep level life becomes much easier...That and many people tend to be idiotic so it is easy to dismiss their opinion without even drawing breath ;)
  • livnlite
    livnlite Posts: 520
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    Your opinion of yourself will always be more important than pretty much anyone else other than people who are very close to you. How could it ever be different when they simply cannot know what it truly means to be you as an individual? They have not walked in your shoes, gone through what you have, understand all the parts it takes to make you who you are as distinct from someone else. Their assessment will always be imperfect as it is based on imperfect information. Therefore it is secondary to your own as you are aware of all the pieces of the puzzle

    Once you know this on a deep level life becomes much easier...That and many people tend to be idiotic so it is easy to dismiss their opinion without even drawing breath ;)

    True .. for the most part .. But occasionally a good swift kick in the pants from someone who loves you is warranted. We all have moments when we become absorbed, and perhaps act badly or behave like an idiot, yet don't even realize it until someone points it out.
  • myofibril
    myofibril Posts: 4,500 Member
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    Your opinion of yourself will always be more important than pretty much anyone else other than people who are very close to you. How could it ever be different when they simply cannot know what it truly means to be you as an individual? They have not walked in your shoes, gone through what you have, understand all the parts it takes to make you who you are as distinct from someone else. Their assessment will always be imperfect as it is based on imperfect information. Therefore it is secondary to your own as you are aware of all the pieces of the puzzle

    Once you know this on a deep level life becomes much easier...That and many people tend to be idiotic so it is easy to dismiss their opinion without even drawing breath ;)

    True .. for the most part .. But occasionally a good swift kick in the pants from someone who loves you is warranted. We all have moments when we become absorbed, and perhaps act badly or behave like an idiot, yet don't even realize it until someone points it out.

    Certainly. People who are close you as I mentioned in my original post can have a good handle on your behaviour.

    I'm not discounting that even a stranger than be insightful but that is a lot rarer I feel. Most people are too interested in talking about themselves to truly put themselves in someone else's position.

    Now, let's talk about meeeeeeeeee
  • livnlite
    livnlite Posts: 520
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    Your opinion of yourself will always be more important than pretty much anyone else other than people who are very close to you. How could it ever be different when they simply cannot know what it truly means to be you as an individual? They have not walked in your shoes, gone through what you have, understand all the parts it takes to make you who you are as distinct from someone else. Their assessment will always be imperfect as it is based on imperfect information. Therefore it is secondary to your own as you are aware of all the pieces of the puzzle

    Once you know this on a deep level life becomes much easier...That and many people tend to be idiotic so it is easy to dismiss their opinion without even drawing breath ;)

    True .. for the most part .. But occasionally a good swift kick in the pants from someone who loves you is warranted. We all have moments when we become absorbed, and perhaps act badly or behave like an idiot, yet don't even realize it until someone points it out.

    Certainly. People who are close you as I mentioned in my original post can have a good handle on your behaviour.

    I'm not discounting that even a stranger than be insightful but that is a lot rarer I feel. Most people are too interested in talking about themselves to truly put themselves in someone else's position.

    Now, let's talk about meeeeeeeeee


    Uh uh, Mr! .. ME first!

    AND ... you we have to remember that even complete strangers can see when you're acting like a jerk .. and by saying so .. either snap you out of it or cause you to spiral into a defensive maniac. Sometimes even strangers can offer constructive criticism .. sometimes not so much.
  • albayin
    albayin Posts: 2,524 Member
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    Your opinion of yourself will always be more important than pretty much anyone else other than people who are very close to you. How could it ever be different when they simply cannot know what it truly means to be you as an individual? They have not walked in your shoes, gone through what you have, understand all the parts it takes to make you who you are as distinct from someone else. Their assessment will always be imperfect as it is based on imperfect information. Therefore it is secondary to your own as you are aware of all the pieces of the puzzle

    Once you know this on a deep level life becomes much easier...That and many people tend to be idiotic so it is easy to dismiss their opinion without even drawing breath ;)

    True .. for the most part .. But occasionally a good swift kick in the pants from someone who loves you is warranted. We all have moments when we become absorbed, and perhaps act badly or behave like an idiot, yet don't even realize it until someone points it out.

    Certainly. People who are close you as I mentioned in my original post can have a good handle on your behaviour.

    I'm not discounting that even a stranger than be insightful but that is a lot rarer I feel. Most people are too interested in talking about themselves to truly put themselves in someone else's position.

    Now, let's talk about meeeeeeeeee


    Uh uh, Mr! .. ME first!

    AND ... you we have to remember that even complete strangers can see when you're acting like a jerk .. and by saying so .. either snap you out of it or cause you to spiral into a defensive maniac. Sometimes even strangers can offer constructive criticism .. sometimes not so much.

    Ah, I thought this thread was about ME. LOL