Max Heart Rate?

Lift_hard_eat_big
Lift_hard_eat_big Posts: 2,278 Member
edited October 2024 in Fitness and Exercise
Does anyone have any literature regarding working out above your calculated max heart rate? I've been doing asylum and ripped a few days a week with a weghted vest, and at times, my HRM displays 103% max heart rate? Am I chancing a heart attack, John Henry status?

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  • deathstarclock
    deathstarclock Posts: 512 Member
    Read Heart Rate Training by benson and connolly. Be enlightened.
  • deathstarclock
    deathstarclock Posts: 512 Member
    Did you establish your Max HR? One way is to do eight laps on a track, starting off at a slow warm up pace and going full speed on that eighth lap such that you're like... about to die.
  • Silverkittycat
    Silverkittycat Posts: 1,997 Member
    sigh.....it was nice knowing you. :smile:
  • Codefox
    Codefox Posts: 309 Member
    There is only one thing you need to know about the formulas to calculate heart rate: they're all worthless. All of them. Your max heart rate is something you either need to find by pushing yourself to the limit or with a doctor's assistance. Unless you're fit...i would suggest going to the doctor to find it out.
  • 0PhAtDaDdY
    0PhAtDaDdY Posts: 569 Member
    Does anyone have any literature regarding working out above your calculated max heart rate? I've been doing asylum and ripped a few days a week with a weghted vest, and at times, my HRM displays 103% max heart rate? Am I chancing a heart attack, John Henry status?

    220 minus your age = (MHR)
  • Codefox
    Codefox Posts: 309 Member
    220 minus your age = (MHR)

    Will give you a completely meaningless number
  • 0PhAtDaDdY
    0PhAtDaDdY Posts: 569 Member
    Does anyone have any literature regarding working out above your calculated max heart rate? I've been doing asylum and ripped a few days a week with a weghted vest, and at times, my HRM displays 103% max heart rate? Am I chancing a heart attack, John Henry status?

    220 minus your age = (MHR)

    That's what the doc told me....
  • Lift_hard_eat_big
    Lift_hard_eat_big Posts: 2,278 Member
    There is only one thing you need to know about the formulas to calculate heart rate: they're all worthless. All of them. Your max heart rate is something you either need to find by pushing yourself to the limit or with a doctor's assistance. Unless you're fit...i would suggest going to the doctor to find it out.

    That's what I was thinking. I entered my age, weight, etc. into the HRM it came up with 173 Max HR. At times I'm at 103% the alarm is beeping like crazy but I feel "ok" PRE is about a 9 out of 10. I don't feel like I'm gonna die just yet. But the RIPPED instructor is like "You better take a break or I'm kicking you out"
  • Codefox
    Codefox Posts: 309 Member
    220 - 30 = 190. But my MHR is actually 209. The formula is so inaccurate that you could just make up any number you want and it'd be as useful ;)
  • Codefox
    Codefox Posts: 309 Member
    That's what I was thinking. I entered my age, weight, etc. into the HRM it came up with 173 Max HR. At times I'm at 103% the alarm is beeping like crazy but I feel "ok" PRE is about a 9 out of 10. I don't feel like I'm gonna die just yet. But the RIPPED instructor is like "You better take a break or I'm kicking you out"

    What HRM do you use? Every HRM I had always asked if it could use a higher number if I hit it as my new MHR. That's how I ended up at 209.
  • deathstarclock
    deathstarclock Posts: 512 Member
    220 - 25 = 195 but my true max is 184. That formula is worthless because it does not account for variation in the size of hearts in the general population, amongst other variables. It's a helpful formula for getting an idea, but like, I would definitely not trust it. WITH MY LIFE. :drinker:
  • Lift_hard_eat_big
    Lift_hard_eat_big Posts: 2,278 Member
    That's what I was thinking. I entered my age, weight, etc. into the HRM it came up with 173 Max HR. At times I'm at 103% the alarm is beeping like crazy but I feel "ok" PRE is about a 9 out of 10. I don't feel like I'm gonna die just yet. But the RIPPED instructor is like "You better take a break or I'm kicking you out"

    What HRM do you use? Every HRM I had always asked if it could use a higher number if I hit it as my new MHR. That's how I ended up at 209.

    My mistake, typo, should have been 193, not 173. but I have a Polar FT7
  • 0PhAtDaDdY
    0PhAtDaDdY Posts: 569 Member
    Mine is 185 I usually excerise between 60-80 percent of that.. I'm 55 so I usally stay on the lower end of the range sometimes I pump it up for fun. I do wear a HRM to watch it...
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    not really on the health aspect, but if we are to assume 50% VO2Max is 60-65% max heart rate then this study had particpants doing upwards of 180% max heart rate
    or maybe i'm reading it wrong
    All work including the pre- and post tests were done on a mechanically braked bicycle ergometer; this is an important point that is often ignored and I’ll come back to in the discussion. Every test or high-intensity workout was proceeded by a 10 minute warm-up at 50% of VO2 max (This is maybe 60-65% maximum heart rate).

    The two primary tests were VO2 max and the maximal accumulated oxygen deficit (this is a test of anaerobic capacity, basically people with higher anaerobic capacity can generate a larger oxygen deficit) and then subjected to one of two training programs.

    The first program was a fairly standard aerobic training program, subjects exercised 5 days/week at 70% of VO2 max for 60 minutes at a cadence of 70 RPMs for 6 straight weeks. The intensity of exercise was raised as VO2 max increased with training to maintain the proper percentage. VO2 max was tested weekly in this group and the maximal accumulated oxygen deficit was measured before, at 4 weeks and after training.

    The second group performed the Tabata protocol. For four days per week they performed 7-8 sets of 20 seconds at 170% of VO2 max with 10 seconds rest between bouts, again this was done after a 10 minute warm-up. When more than 9 sets could be completed, the wattage was increased by 11 watts. If the subjects could not maintain a cadence of 85RPM, the workout was ended.

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/effects-of-moderate-intensity-endurance-and-high-intensity-intermittent-training-on-anaerobic-capacity-and-vo2-max.html
  • 0PhAtDaDdY
    0PhAtDaDdY Posts: 569 Member
    Now my Polar FT7 says 165 I forgot to mention that as well...
  • Lift_hard_eat_big
    Lift_hard_eat_big Posts: 2,278 Member
    not really on the health aspect, but if we are to assume 50% VO2Max is 60-65% max heart rate then this study had particpants doing upwards of 180% max heart rate
    or maybe i'm reading it wrong
    All work including the pre- and post tests were done on a mechanically braked bicycle ergometer; this is an important point that is often ignored and I’ll come back to in the discussion. Every test or high-intensity workout was proceeded by a 10 minute warm-up at 50% of VO2 max (This is maybe 60-65% maximum heart rate).

    The two primary tests were VO2 max and the maximal accumulated oxygen deficit (this is a test of anaerobic capacity, basically people with higher anaerobic capacity can generate a larger oxygen deficit) and then subjected to one of two training programs.

    The first program was a fairly standard aerobic training program, subjects exercised 5 days/week at 70% of VO2 max for 60 minutes at a cadence of 70 RPMs for 6 straight weeks. The intensity of exercise was raised as VO2 max increased with training to maintain the proper percentage. VO2 max was tested weekly in this group and the maximal accumulated oxygen deficit was measured before, at 4 weeks and after training.

    The second group performed the Tabata protocol. For four days per week they performed 7-8 sets of 20 seconds at 170% of VO2 max with 10 seconds rest between bouts, again this was done after a 10 minute warm-up. When more than 9 sets could be completed, the wattage was increased by 11 watts. If the subjects could not maintain a cadence of 85RPM, the workout was ended.

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/effects-of-moderate-intensity-endurance-and-high-intensity-intermittent-training-on-anaerobic-capacity-and-vo2-max.html

    I usually train Tabata style in my brother's class. I'll get up to 103% HR as well but since it's only 30 second intervals I can get back down to 90% or so during the 15 second breaks in between. But in RIPPED and Asylum, the intervals are about 4 min long.
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