Where are the former Weight Watchers??

mfp all the way. its free, its more normal in my opinion- calorie counting rather than working out points all the time. food labels have calories, not propoints, lol!! and its free.

just my opinion (i did weight watchers and had success on the old points system, not so much success on the new propoints system, which is what led me here)

If you work out, you get to eat back those calories you burned off.. so there is plenty of "wiggle room" as you put it! just have to move a little!

i think the biggest difference as far as my own compliance goes is that the mfp website is way more user friendly and comprehensive. i also like that you can track whatever nutrients you like (in the food section, you can play around with settings). and i cheat less when i just take a handful of this or that -- on ww, if it was less than a full point, i didnt count it. everything counts here.

about "no flex points" here: everything is wiggle room. you set your food and exercise goals. you know exactly how much exercise you've done and how that affects your calorie intake for the day. obviously, neither system is 100% accurate, but... i am a convert to mfp.

WW didn't work for me..this does! AND....it's free!

I personally switched to MFP because its free... but I have found that it is so much easier for me to count calories and I love how MFP does the breakdown of fat, carbs, sodium, protein, fiber...you get the point. I have had more success with MFP then I was having with weight watchers. I also love that you can motivate your friends so easily on their homepage. I think to each their own, as long as something is working for you then the key is to just stick to it!

When I was on the old WW points system, I compared points and the calories on those food items and it equalled to allowed points and calories. So my 30 something points equalled to 1200 calories. MFP does subtract calories burned, which would be your exercise points. You could easily use MFP and still use WW guidelines.

Also check out www.fooducate.com, this gives you food points on the products.

Hope this helps.

MFP > WW

Free is good. Not having to find time for a meeting is good. The tools here are great. The people are better. I can be flexible with my calories based on how much I exercise. Sometimes I eat up to my max but not always.

I switched in March after being on WW for four years and was a bit dubious- a case of better the devil you know! I did lose my initial 2 stone on WW but i found it more restrictive and realised this was easier to monitor nutrients such a sodium levels and carbs than WW. Its good to have the friends status update like Facebook on your homepage making your support network and motivators more easily accessible than WW.

I am now loving MFP and most of the people on here and feel more in control of my results.

I personally switched to MFP because its free... but I have found that it is so much easier for me to count calories and I love how MFP does the breakdown of fat, carbs, sodium, protein, fiber...you get the point. I have had more success with MFP then I was having with weight watchers. I also love that you can motivate your friends so easily on their homepage. I think to each their own, as long as something is working for you then the key is to just stick to it!

I also find that I pay more attention to sodium, carbs, etc! That's another good point!

I was on WW ( the old system) back in 2009. I loved it! Lost 20lbs in 3 months or so. I tried to get back on that same program by myself (not the new one, the old points plus program!) and I did lose ( 7lbs in 6 weeks), but I kept flunctuating, even if I would exercise and not go over my points, it just seemed it wasnt working for me. Also I had a baby in May and it just seemed like with a newborn it was too much to count my points, write them down, figure them out, etc. I found mfp thanx to a fb friend who said she was using it. I figured I would try it and see. I overlapped with WW for a week and found that according to mfp, I had more calories to eat ( even without exercise calories) than I had alotted points. I decided this was easier for me bc of the database and its free bc I couldnt afford the official WW site. I would never put down WW, I think that its an amazing program! But for me, I am very excited about MFP, its easier and faster for me. Plus I love that I know the calories I am burning when exercising and I can eat them if I want to. I know you can points wise as well, but to me its simpler to look at any package and see 200 calories vs trying to convert the nutrition facts into a certain number of points. I have seen fantastic progress since I have joined MFP. Almost 10lbs in 5 weeks. Which I would have lost more if I wouldn't have slacked with exercise and sometimes I would eat bad. But I know its by choice and I make it up the next day and get right back on track. I am excited to see how much farther I can go with MFP. I never reached my GW on WW bc I could no longer afford it, and I plan to stick with MFP until I do it and even after to maintain. It just makes sense to me.

I LOVED the old ww program just Points..I can not get my head around the new program I just didnt want to have to relearn everything stubborn I guess...plus I lost my job going to school and a big move so I wanted CHEAP..oh wait FREE

I also love MFP database you can find anything in that thing!!

Ill say it...MFP = naked weigh-ins! :0

Plus the weigh-ins are private; no one asking me what I could do differently this week, etc.

WW was great, but this has all the features I need for free. My dietician recommended it. :flowerforyou:

I like them both for different reasons. I am a WW Lifetime member so I still do it but don't have to pay. I like the structure of WW, and I find it easier to just count Points (or Points+). Here on MFP, I like the support and participation with other members. I don't use the food diary, but I do log my exercise here just because I where a HRM and like to log my calories burned, even though I still log them as Activity Points in my WW tracker.

I say everybody is different, and everybody should do what works best for them. For me, it's a combination of the two.

Glad to see I'm not the only one who used the old WW tool and had trouble with the new points plus system they have now. I did WW in 2007 and lost 20 lbs in the first three months, and a total of 70 lbs. I have slowly gained half of it back, and started back on WW again. This time around I have only lost 11 lbs in four months. I know it's different this time around, I don't have as much to lose, and I'm five years older (ugh!), but I really did not feel like I was having the success like I did before. I almost felt like they were way more restrictive with carbs than they were before. And I really have a hard time with that. I'm hoping MFP will be more "balanced" for me - I just signed on this week, and if all goes well I will be cancelling my WW online subscription.