Why water weight ??? Myth? Truth?

lovelee79
lovelee79 Posts: 362
edited October 4 in Health and Weight Loss
So I have heard many people say that their first few weeks of weight loss was water weight.
Why? This makes no sense to me, why would it be water weight? Why wouldn't the weight loss actually be fat loss?

And if it is true.... that it is just water weight...then when, at what point do we start to really lose fat ???
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  • AZTrailRunner
    AZTrailRunner Posts: 1,199 Member
    Could be the healthier diet lacks much of the sodium as the old diet, add in drinking more water, and out goes the stored water.
  • I would LOVE some answers to these questions also. I literally JUST posted on the exact same topic. When does it switch from "water weight" to "fat loss"?!
  • piccolarj
    piccolarj Posts: 488 Member
    Could be the healthier diet lacks much of the sodium as the old diet, add in drinking more water, and out goes the stored water.
    ^^^This^^^ Usually an unhealthy diet contains lots of sodium and soda which makes you retain lots of water. When you start eating healthier and drinking more water you flush that excess fluid out of your system which is why your first week you could see big weight loss. It will taper off and then you start to lose actual weight.
  • After almost 2 weeks, IME.
  • Don't listen to those stupid dieting myths. Sure, you do have water weight, but exercising and dieting isn't going to make you loose water, it's going to make you loose fat and gain muscle.

    As a lot of people use as their excuse for "water weight" is your sodium to water ratio. Well, sure, you may have a couple pounds in water weight, but you'll loose some fat in the process, too.
    Dieting myths like this are so irritating and get passed around on this site more than any other place I've ever seen. Even some of the things that the actual website tells you aren't true.
  • Don't listen to those stupid dieting myths. Sure, you do have water weight, but exercising and dieting isn't going to make you loose water, it's going to make you loose fat and gain muscle.

    As a lot of people use as their excuse for "water weight" is your sodium to water ratio. Well, sure, you may have a couple pounds in water weight, but you'll loose some fat in the process, too.
    Dieting myths like this are so irritating and get passed around on this site more than any other place I've ever seen. Even some of the things that the actual website tells you aren't true.

    I'm sorry- I have to do this: LOSE*******************
  • AZTrailRunner
    AZTrailRunner Posts: 1,199 Member
    Don't listen to those stupid dieting myths. Sure, you do have water weight, but exercising and dieting isn't going to make you loose water, it's going to make you loose fat and gain muscle.

    As a lot of people use as their excuse for "water weight" is your sodium to water ratio. Well, sure, you may have a couple pounds in water weight, but you'll loose some fat in the process, too.
    Dieting myths like this are so irritating and get passed around on this site more than any other place I've ever seen. Even some of the things that the actual website tells you aren't true.

    You won't gain muscle without eating surplus calories.
    Exercise and drinking water, and eating less sodium WILL make you lose water weight.
    Yes, you will also lose some fat in the process.

    Please don't speak in absolutes, and say everyone else is wrong. We all "lose" weight too!
  • Wow. I have been told that by so many people, I just assumed it was true. I always hear, "Don't get too excited, its just water weight" any time I start losing weight.
  • Don't listen to those stupid dieting myths. Sure, you do have water weight, but exercising and dieting isn't going to make you loose water, it's going to make you loose fat and gain muscle.

    As a lot of people use as their excuse for "water weight" is your sodium to water ratio. Well, sure, you may have a couple pounds in water weight, but you'll loose some fat in the process, too.
    Dieting myths like this are so irritating and get passed around on this site more than any other place I've ever seen. Even some of the things that the actual website tells you aren't true.

    You won't gain muscle without eating surplus calories.
    Exercise and drinking water, and eating less sodium WILL make you lose water weight.
    Yes, you will also lose some fat in the process.

    Please don't speak in absolutes, and say everyone else is wrong. We all "lose" weight too!

    "You won't gain muscle without eating surplus calories."

    .......waiting
  • It doesn't matter to me what kind of weight loss it is as long as it comes off and stays off. :happy:
  • After almost 2 weeks, IME.

    Sorry to rant, but I must prove your stupid little dieting myths WRONG.

    How could you possibly say that 2 weeks is the definite time? Well guess what, I know for a fact that's not true. (And before you judge me, I want you to know that I did not intend on getting an eating disorder, it was a good diet gone bad.) Oh, and it truly depends on your diet and exercise plan. THERE IS NO DEFINITE TIME. Even if two people were doing the same diet and exercise plan, they may not get the same results. If a 180lb person ate what I ate, they'd probably loose insanely fast, where I don't loose as much because I have less body fat, and a lot of other things play a role into it, like metabolism and so on.

    I lost a pound a day when I first got my ED. Guess what! That was approximately 14lbs in 2 weeks. Eventually the weight loss slowed down, but that was because I had a lot less fat on my body to loose. I started at 162 and am now at 124. The weight loss slowed to about half a pound a day when I got to 140, and got increasingly harder once I hit 130ish, but that happens to anyone who is at a good weight. The more fat you have on your body, the easier to loose.

    Oh, and while we are talking about dieting myths, I have proven the "starvation mode" myth wrong, too. I eat around 500cal a day, and don't eat whenever it is possible - but I still loose weight. Look at Holocaust victims and tell them that starvation mode is true. They wouldn't have died.

    Sorry for the ranting again, but I hate false information being passed around. It drives me insane.
    And I want to let you all know I am not proud of my ED, and if you guys really understood what I go through on a day to day basis, than I doubt you would still hate on me for it.
  • Don't listen to those stupid dieting myths. Sure, you do have water weight, but exercising and dieting isn't going to make you loose water, it's going to make you loose fat and gain muscle.

    As a lot of people use as their excuse for "water weight" is your sodium to water ratio. Well, sure, you may have a couple pounds in water weight, but you'll loose some fat in the process, too.
    Dieting myths like this are so irritating and get passed around on this site more than any other place I've ever seen. Even some of the things that the actual website tells you aren't true.

    You won't gain muscle without eating surplus calories.
    Exercise and drinking water, and eating less sodium WILL make you lose water weight.
    Yes, you will also lose some fat in the process.

    Please don't speak in absolutes, and say everyone else is wrong. We all "lose" weight too!

    Wait a second. This sounds oddly wrong. I can fast for days and still gain muscle. Wait no, that can't be true because I'm not eating any surplus calories! Oh wait, that must be true because I have a lot of muscle I didn't used to have.
  • _David_
    _David_ Posts: 476 Member
    After almost 2 weeks, IME.

    Sorry to rant, but I must prove your stupid little dieting myths WRONG.

    How could you possibly say that 2 weeks is the definite time? Well guess what, I know for a fact that's not true. (And before you judge me, I want you to know that I did not intend on getting an eating disorder, it was a good diet gone bad.) Oh, and it truly depends on your diet and exercise plan. THERE IS NO DEFINITE TIME. Even if two people were doing the same diet and exercise plan, they may not get the same results. If a 180lb person ate what I ate, they'd probably loose insanely fast, where I don't loose as much because I have less body fat, and a lot of other things play a role into it, like metabolism and so on.

    I lost a pound a day when I first got my ED. Guess what! That was approximately 14lbs in 2 weeks. Eventually the weight loss slowed down, but that was because I had a lot less fat on my body to loose. I started at 162 and am now at 124. The weight loss slowed to about half a pound a day when I got to 140, and got increasingly harder once I hit 130ish, but that happens to anyone who is at a good weight. The more fat you have on your body, the easier to loose.

    Oh, and while we are talking about dieting myths, I have proven the "starvation mode" myth wrong, too. I eat around 500cal a day, and don't eat whenever it is possible - but I still loose weight. Look at Holocaust victims and tell them that starvation mode is true. They wouldn't have died.

    Sorry for the ranting again, but I hate false information being passed around. It drives me insane.
    And I want to let you all know I am not proud of my ED, and if you guys really understood what I go through on a day to day basis, than I doubt you would still hate on me for it.
    So what exactly did you prove wrong??? You just gave us YOUR opinion on what has worked and works for YOU like everyone else has.....
  • lovelee79
    lovelee79 Posts: 362
    (Spelled: lose. It's lose like biggest loser, or when you lose weight your pants feel loose. see the difference)

    ;)

    Cheers!:drinker:
  • After almost 2 weeks, IME.

    Sorry to rant, but I must prove your stupid little dieting myths WRONG.

    How could you possibly say that 2 weeks is the definite time? Well guess what, I know for a fact that's not true. (And before you judge me, I want you to know that I did not intend on getting an eating disorder, it was a good diet gone bad.) Oh, and it truly depends on your diet and exercise plan. THERE IS NO DEFINITE TIME. Even if two people were doing the same diet and exercise plan, they may not get the same results. If a 180lb person ate what I ate, they'd probably loose insanely fast, where I don't loose as much because I have less body fat, and a lot of other things play a role into it, like metabolism and so on.

    I lost a pound a day when I first got my ED. Guess what! That was approximately 14lbs in 2 weeks. Eventually the weight loss slowed down, but that was because I had a lot less fat on my body to loose. I started at 162 and am now at 124. The weight loss slowed to about half a pound a day when I got to 140, and got increasingly harder once I hit 130ish, but that happens to anyone who is at a good weight. The more fat you have on your body, the easier to loose.

    Oh, and while we are talking about dieting myths, I have proven the "starvation mode" myth wrong, too. I eat around 500cal a day, and don't eat whenever it is possible - but I still loose weight. Look at Holocaust victims and tell them that starvation mode is true. They wouldn't have died.

    Sorry for the ranting again, but I hate false information being passed around. It drives me insane.
    And I want to let you all know I am not proud of my ED, and if you guys really understood what I go through on a day to day basis, than I doubt you would still hate on me for it.
    So what exactly did you prove wrong??? You just gave us YOUR opinion on what has worked and works for YOU like everyone else has.....

    How was that an opinion? I'm honestly not trying to pick arguments here, I'm just telling you that it does not take a definite 2 weeks to start loosing fat. It may take some people 2 weeks, it may take some people 4 weeks, hell, it may take some people 4 days. I'm just pointing out that everybody's body is different. And also in the process proving that you don't stop loosing weight if you eat under 1200cal a day (the whole starvation mode myth)
  • Misiaxcore
    Misiaxcore Posts: 659 Member
    After almost 2 weeks, IME.

    Sorry to rant, but I must prove your stupid little dieting myths WRONG.

    How could you possibly say that 2 weeks is the definite time? Well guess what, I know for a fact that's not true. (And before you judge me, I want you to know that I did not intend on getting an eating disorder, it was a good diet gone bad.) Oh, and it truly depends on your diet and exercise plan. THERE IS NO DEFINITE TIME. Even if two people were doing the same diet and exercise plan, they may not get the same results. If a 180lb person ate what I ate, they'd probably loose insanely fast, where I don't loose as much because I have less body fat, and a lot of other things play a role into it, like metabolism and so on.

    I lost a pound a day when I first got my ED. Guess what! That was approximately 14lbs in 2 weeks. Eventually the weight loss slowed down, but that was because I had a lot less fat on my body to loose. I started at 162 and am now at 124. The weight loss slowed to about half a pound a day when I got to 140, and got increasingly harder once I hit 130ish, but that happens to anyone who is at a good weight. The more fat you have on your body, the easier to loose.

    Oh, and while we are talking about dieting myths, I have proven the "starvation mode" myth wrong, too. I eat around 500cal a day, and don't eat whenever it is possible - but I still loose weight. Look at Holocaust victims and tell them that starvation mode is true. They wouldn't have died.

    Sorry for the ranting again, but I hate false information being passed around. It drives me insane.
    And I want to let you all know I am not proud of my ED, and if you guys really understood what I go through on a day to day basis, than I doubt you would still hate on me for it.
    So what exactly did you prove wrong??? You just gave us YOUR opinion on what has worked and works for YOU like everyone else has.....

    I'm having trouble understanding why the ED had to be brought into this at all.
  • (Spelled: lose. It's lose like biggest loser, or when you lose weight your pants feel loose. see the difference)

    ;)

    Cheers!:drinker:

    Haha, I made a few typos in there. I know that :)
  • AZTrailRunner
    AZTrailRunner Posts: 1,199 Member
    After almost 2 weeks, IME.

    Sorry to rant, but I must prove your stupid little dieting myths WRONG.

    How could you possibly say that 2 weeks is the definite time? Well guess what, I know for a fact that's not true. (And before you judge me, I want you to know that I did not intend on getting an eating disorder, it was a good diet gone bad.) Oh, and it truly depends on your diet and exercise plan. THERE IS NO DEFINITE TIME. Even if two people were doing the same diet and exercise plan, they may not get the same results. If a 180lb person ate what I ate, they'd probably loose insanely fast, where I don't loose as much because I have less body fat, and a lot of other things play a role into it, like metabolism and so on.

    I lost a pound a day when I first got my ED. Guess what! That was approximately 14lbs in 2 weeks. Eventually the weight loss slowed down, but that was because I had a lot less fat on my body to loose. I started at 162 and am now at 124. The weight loss slowed to about half a pound a day when I got to 140, and got increasingly harder once I hit 130ish, but that happens to anyone who is at a good weight. The more fat you have on your body, the easier to loose.

    Oh, and while we are talking about dieting myths, I have proven the "starvation mode" myth wrong, too. I eat around 500cal a day, and don't eat whenever it is possible - but I still loose weight. Look at Holocaust victims and tell them that starvation mode is true. They wouldn't have died.

    Sorry for the ranting again, but I hate false information being passed around. It drives me insane.
    And I want to let you all know I am not proud of my ED, and if you guys really understood what I go through on a day to day basis, than I doubt you would still hate on me for it.
    So what exactly did you prove wrong??? You just gave us YOUR opinion on what has worked and works for YOU like everyone else has.....

    How was that an opinion? I'm honestly not trying to pick arguments here, I'm just telling you that it does not take a definite 2 weeks to start loosing fat. It may take some people 2 weeks, it may take some people 4 weeks, hell, it may take some people 4 days. I'm just pointing out that everybody's body is different. And also in the process proving that you don't stop loosing weight if you eat under 1200cal a day (the whole starvation mode myth)

    Where did anyone mention anything about "starvation mode", number of minimum calories, Eating disorders, or dieting myths?

    The OP merely wanted to know about losing water weight in the first few weeks, and then you went all ballistic.
    You have yet to disprove anyone with your statement.
  • Misiaxcore
    Misiaxcore Posts: 659 Member
    After almost 2 weeks, IME.

    Sorry to rant, but I must prove your stupid little dieting myths WRONG.

    How could you possibly say that 2 weeks is the definite time? Well guess what, I know for a fact that's not true. (And before you judge me, I want you to know that I did not intend on getting an eating disorder, it was a good diet gone bad.) Oh, and it truly depends on your diet and exercise plan. THERE IS NO DEFINITE TIME. Even if two people were doing the same diet and exercise plan, they may not get the same results. If a 180lb person ate what I ate, they'd probably loose insanely fast, where I don't loose as much because I have less body fat, and a lot of other things play a role into it, like metabolism and so on.

    I lost a pound a day when I first got my ED. Guess what! That was approximately 14lbs in 2 weeks. Eventually the weight loss slowed down, but that was because I had a lot less fat on my body to loose. I started at 162 and am now at 124. The weight loss slowed to about half a pound a day when I got to 140, and got increasingly harder once I hit 130ish, but that happens to anyone who is at a good weight. The more fat you have on your body, the easier to loose.

    Oh, and while we are talking about dieting myths, I have proven the "starvation mode" myth wrong, too. I eat around 500cal a day, and don't eat whenever it is possible - but I still loose weight. Look at Holocaust victims and tell them that starvation mode is true. They wouldn't have died.

    Sorry for the ranting again, but I hate false information being passed around. It drives me insane.
    And I want to let you all know I am not proud of my ED, and if you guys really understood what I go through on a day to day basis, than I doubt you would still hate on me for it.
    So what exactly did you prove wrong??? You just gave us YOUR opinion on what has worked and works for YOU like everyone else has.....

    How was that an opinion? I'm honestly not trying to pick arguments here, I'm just telling you that it does not take a definite 2 weeks to start loosing fat. It may take some people 2 weeks, it may take some people 4 weeks, hell, it may take some people 4 days. I'm just pointing out that everybody's body is different. And also in the process proving that you don't stop loosing weight if you eat under 1200cal a day (the whole starvation mode myth)

    Where did anyone mention anything about "starvation mode", number of minimum calories, Eating disorders, or dieting myths?

    The OP merely wanted to know about losing water weight in the first few weeks, and then you went all ballistic.
    You have yet to disprove anyone with your statement.

    ^this.
  • lovelee79
    lovelee79 Posts: 362
    After almost 2 weeks, IME.

    Sorry to rant, but I must prove your stupid little dieting myths WRONG.

    How could you possibly say that 2 weeks is the definite time? Well guess what, I know for a fact that's not true. (And before you judge me, I want you to know that I did not intend on getting an eating disorder, it was a good diet gone bad.) Oh, and it truly depends on your diet and exercise plan. THERE IS NO DEFINITE TIME. Even if two people were doing the same diet and exercise plan, they may not get the same results. If a 180lb person ate what I ate, they'd probably loose insanely fast, where I don't loose as much because I have less body fat, and a lot of other things play a role into it, like metabolism and so on.

    I lost a pound a day when I first got my ED. Guess what! That was approximately 14lbs in 2 weeks. Eventually the weight loss slowed down, but that was because I had a lot less fat on my body to loose. I started at 162 and am now at 124. The weight loss slowed to about half a pound a day when I got to 140, and got increasingly harder once I hit 130ish, but that happens to anyone who is at a good weight. The more fat you have on your body, the easier to loose.

    Oh, and while we are talking about dieting myths, I have proven the "starvation mode" myth wrong, too. I eat around 500cal a day, and don't eat whenever it is possible - but I still loose weight. Look at Holocaust victims and tell them that starvation mode is true. They wouldn't have died.

    Sorry for the ranting again, but I hate false information being passed around. It drives me insane.
    And I want to let you all know I am not proud of my ED, and if you guys really understood what I go through on a day to day basis, than I doubt you would still hate on me for it.
    So what exactly did you prove wrong??? You just gave us YOUR opinion on what has worked and works for YOU like everyone else has.....

    How was that an opinion? I'm honestly not trying to pick arguments here, I'm just telling you that it does not take a definite 2 weeks to start loosing fat. It may take some people 2 weeks, it may take some people 4 weeks, hell, it may take some people 4 days. I'm just pointing out that everybody's body is different. And also in the process proving that you don't stop loosing weight if you eat under 1200cal a day (the whole starvation mode myth)


    Please everyone be nice....Lets try to not go too much off topic, I'm just curious about water weight/fat loss. But since you mentioned the starvation mode... I read Jon Gabriel's book, he talks a lot about starvation mode and it seems to me NOT to be a myth. I'm not going to go into it, but if your curious read his book "the Gabriel Method"
  • rutkowsm
    rutkowsm Posts: 43 Member
    From what I understand (and my understanding is very limited) the initial calorie reduction when you begin a weight loss program also results in depleting glycogen stores (which, as I understand it, helps your body to retain water). When these stores are reduced, you drop weight, most of which is water. The caloric decrease that we've subjected ourselves to simply does not yet merit a five pound drop in fat, though it can still feel very good to lose that weight.

    There's nothing wrong with this process. It's natural for this to happen. It doesn't really matter to me just when you start dropping fat versus water, because as long as your calories in are less than calories out then it will happen eventually.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,990 Member
    So I have heard many people say that their first few weeks of weight loss was water weight.
    Why? This makes no sense to me, why would it be water weight? Why wouldn't the weight loss actually be fat loss?

    And if it is true.... that it is just water weight...then when, at what point do we start to really lose fat ???
    To lose a pound of fat you need to burn 3,500 calories. Many times people in their first week lose up to 7-10lbs. That would be 24,500 to 35,000 calories burned that week if it was true fat loss. So do you really think people are burning 3,500 to 5,000 calories a DAY as a beginner in their first week? Or even 2nd week? Or even 3rd week? This is why water weight loss is the most logical answer and actually proven.
    You do lose fat every week if you are consistent, it's just not a huge amounts at a time.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,990 Member
    Don't listen to those stupid dieting myths. Sure, you do have water weight, but exercising and dieting isn't going to make you loose water, it's going to make you loose fat and gain muscle.

    As a lot of people use as their excuse for "water weight" is your sodium to water ratio. Well, sure, you may have a couple pounds in water weight, but you'll loose some fat in the process, too.
    Dieting myths like this are so irritating and get passed around on this site more than any other place I've ever seen. Even some of the things that the actual website tells you aren't true.
    Sorry, but you should know gaining muscle on calorie deficit is practically impossible. To gain muscle you need to be in calorie surplus.
  • piccolarj
    piccolarj Posts: 488 Member
    So I have heard many people say that their first few weeks of weight loss was water weight.
    Why? This makes no sense to me, why would it be water weight? Why wouldn't the weight loss actually be fat loss?

    And if it is true.... that it is just water weight...then when, at what point do we start to really lose fat ???
    To lose a pound of fat you need to burn 3,500 calories. Many times people in their first week lose up to 7-10lbs. That would be 24,500 to 35,000 calories burned that week if it was true fat loss. So do you really think people are burning 3,500 to 5,000 calories a DAY as a beginner in their first week? Or even 2nd week? Or even 3rd week? This is why water weight loss is the most logical answer and actually proven.
    You do lose fat every week if you are consistent, it's just not a huge amounts at a time.
    I was wondering when you show up on this one!:happy:
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,990 Member
    Sorry to rant, but I must prove your stupid little dieting myths WRONG.

    How could you possibly say that 2 weeks is the definite time? Well guess what, I know for a fact that's not true. (And before you judge me, I want you to know that I did not intend on getting an eating disorder, it was a good diet gone bad.) Oh, and it truly depends on your diet and exercise plan. THERE IS NO DEFINITE TIME. Even if two people were doing the same diet and exercise plan, they may not get the same results. If a 180lb person ate what I ate, they'd probably loose insanely fast, where I don't loose as much because I have less body fat, and a lot of other things play a role into it, like metabolism and so on.

    I lost a pound a day when I first got my ED. Guess what! That was approximately 14lbs in 2 weeks. Eventually the weight loss slowed down, but that was because I had a lot less fat on my body to loose. I started at 162 and am now at 124. The weight loss slowed to about half a pound a day when I got to 140, and got increasingly harder once I hit 130ish, but that happens to anyone who is at a good weight. The more fat you have on your body, the easier to loose.

    Oh, and while we are talking about dieting myths, I have proven the "starvation mode" myth wrong, too. I eat around 500cal a day, and don't eat whenever it is possible - but I still loose weight. Look at Holocaust victims and tell them that starvation mode is true. They wouldn't have died.

    Sorry for the ranting again, but I hate false information being passed around. It drives me insane.
    And I want to let you all know I am not proud of my ED, and if you guys really understood what I go through on a day to day basis, than I doubt you would still hate on me for it.
    Anecdotes aren't evidence. You would need to show through peer reviewed clinical study what you say is FACT to prove it is a fact.
    It sounds like you're convinced on your own opinion, so there's not much more to try to prove to you.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,990 Member
    Wait a second. This sounds oddly wrong. I can fast for days and still gain muscle. Wait no, that can't be true because I'm not eating any surplus calories! Oh wait, that must be true because I have a lot of muscle I didn't used to have.
    A pound of muscle weighs 600 calories. If you're eating 500 calories like you say, then how are you gaining muscle? Mathematically it doesn't work out. You cannot build muscle without supplying the calories needed to build it. And the "fat" that you think you're losing isn't turning into muscle since that's physically impossible.
    You sound angry. Look at it scientifically and try to explain how you gain muscle without calories?
  • AZTrailRunner
    AZTrailRunner Posts: 1,199 Member
    I agree, she seemed mad. Thanks for laying it down peacefully and scientifically for the OP.
  • piccolarj
    piccolarj Posts: 488 Member
    Wait a second. This sounds oddly wrong. I can fast for days and still gain muscle. Wait no, that can't be true because I'm not eating any surplus calories! Oh wait, that must be true because I have a lot of muscle I didn't used to have.
    A pound of muscle weighs 600 calories. If you're eating 500 calories like you say, then how are you gaining muscle? Mathematically it doesn't work out. You cannot build muscle without supplying the calories needed to build it. And the "fat" that you think you're losing isn't turning into muscle since that's physically impossible.
    You sound angry. Look at it scientifically and try to explain how you gain muscle without calories?
    Maybe she was swimming in sweats!:laugh:
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,990 Member
    I was wondering when you show up on this one!:happy:
    You know me............always the late one in.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,990 Member

    Maybe she was swimming in sweats!:laugh:
    OMG, I just practically laughed really loud right now!!!!!!
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