Unsolicited body 'Assessment' from others
I have a client (I'm a hair colorist) who has been a model for over 30yrs & is definitely an odd duck.. He always brings his own hair color from Europe that he's used since he was 20 & constantly talks about his glory days & brand names. I always take whatever he says with 'a grain of salt'. So I've started to get the color filled in on my backpiece & he commented on it, getting all excited & giving me advice on what type of lighting & backdrop to use as professional pics after I'm finished. Then he starts trying to position me against the white wall.. Awkward but I humor him.
Then later he says I should start trying modeling & just need to firm up a little. Then proceeds to pinch my arm fat & touch my thighs, telling me I'm "such a beautiful girl but this has got to go ASAP". It wasn't in a sexual way, but evaluating.. I understand he's been immersed in a certain culture for a very long time & I can appreciate his vision as an artist, but really?! First off I am only 5'3 & 24, way too old & built wrong to get into commercial modeling. Also, I feel pinching my fat in public is NOT ok in this situation! This has happened a couple times w/ men in the past couple years (interestingly AFTER my big weight loss), what makes these people feel this is socially acceptable?
A bit of a rant but also a question for u all, have u ever received unsolicited 'advice' from others on ur body? How did u handle it, & do u think u deserved it?
Then later he says I should start trying modeling & just need to firm up a little. Then proceeds to pinch my arm fat & touch my thighs, telling me I'm "such a beautiful girl but this has got to go ASAP". It wasn't in a sexual way, but evaluating.. I understand he's been immersed in a certain culture for a very long time & I can appreciate his vision as an artist, but really?! First off I am only 5'3 & 24, way too old & built wrong to get into commercial modeling. Also, I feel pinching my fat in public is NOT ok in this situation! This has happened a couple times w/ men in the past couple years (interestingly AFTER my big weight loss), what makes these people feel this is socially acceptable?
A bit of a rant but also a question for u all, have u ever received unsolicited 'advice' from others on ur body? How did u handle it, & do u think u deserved it?
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Never experienced anything like that!! It sounds about as awkward as having a relative for your gyno.
You must have a very touchable body!!0 -
Not many, but the ones that did are not longer walking straight. I hope that I answered your question...0
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Not many, but the ones that did are not longer walking straight. I hope that I answered your question...
Agreed! A little too over the top to be anywhere near OK!0 -
my older sister had things like that happen that stuck with her forever! i feel ya, i'd be a bit irritated. yes, we all could be models if we were all only 5'7 20 yrs old and 110 lbs. but modeling is not the only thing thats worth being. there are alot of cool things chicks can be besides models. that doesn't make you pretty or better, being your best and living life happy does though.0
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I would have requested that he buy me dinner before feeling me up.0
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This guy sounds like a complete 100%, bona-fide *kitten*. I'm surprised you didn't punch him.0
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I think he's way out of line, personally. A guy shouldn't even consider that unless he knows it's within the girl's comfort zone, she's okay with it and there's trust established. That said, before I got super serious a few weeks ago and found this site, a buddy of mine made a comment at work that pissed me off. At first, I thought, "What a ****! He's one to talk!". But then later that night at home, I took his insult as some much needed hard truth. It more or less fueled my workout the next morning...in a positive way!0
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No one has done that but when I was pregnant it seemed like everyone thought it was okay to rub my belly even strangers in the supermarket.
Sounds like a similar experience.0 -
He sounds like my flamboyant gay friend. he thinks its okay to say whatever because he's fabulous. the hell with that guy. his glory days are over ... you're just starting yours0
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I totally understand! I probably would have been shocked into standing there and letting him pinch me and essentially insult me. He's your client, what are you supposed to do? At least is makes for good LoLs later on.0
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If it's unsolicited, I'm not a fan.
It's a great bit more pervasive in some industries than others(which IMO DOES NOT make it right). I'd never encourage my daughter to model, just due to things I had encountered as a teen when that was a dream.0 -
If he pinched me I would've slapped him and said "Be a man if you don't like it let's take this outside and start throwing fist" seeing how you're a female yelling "STRANGER DANGER STRANGER DANGER" would've gotten him to stop what he was doing. Bonus points if you cried and feel to the floor while doig it!0
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Hahaha at stranger danger!!0
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Nopez. He must feel really comfortable around you to do that. My family doesn't even do that.0
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tIt would depend. This guy does sound gay (he is right?) And all of my gay guy friends have done stuff like that. bonding or something. He really probably thought he was complimenting you. On the other hand I have like a 6 foot personal space boundary so he would have had to been chasing me around in circles to get that close0
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I had a similar situation with someone when I use to run on the beach during this past summer. I eventually told him, he was being inappropriate. It's best if you tell him straight up, before it gets really out of hand.0
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"Then he starts trying to position me against the white wall.. Awkward but I humor him."
This man is what? 50ish? And he was a model right? So - using his logic, if he'd been operated on, he'd then be qualified to operate on you? Gay or straight, well-intentioned or not, he was totally inappropriate and you should learn from this.
#1 - You humored him (an older man) because you didn't know what to do - which is totally understandable. Humoring him was an invitation for him to do and say as he pleased because he thought you considered him to be a voice of authority.
#2 - Next time you find yourself to be in this position, you smile nicely and say, "I know you don't mean to make me uncomfortable but I am". If they persist or ask for explanations or insist they're only trying to help - you don't apologize or explain - you simply repeat "I'm uncomfortable with this so let's change the subject.".0 -
Next time throw a good punch to the face, then pinch his nose and say, "yeah, this is gotta go."0
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well i am not sure if its unsolicited but i have a coworker that i go back and forth with. its usually over my flat butt and gray hair and his unruly nose hair or eyebrows. i love him to death. He is very fashionable so usually if i am unsure about something i run to him. I know he will tell me the truth.
if someone says somehthing negative to me about my figure they better damn sure be a hottie cause i come back guns a blazin'. i think it depends on the person that is giving the comments.0 -
My Italian Grandma was the only one who was allowed to pinch my chubby face, and that's because she used to give me cookies and feed me pasta and meatballs. Anyone else, would find out quickly how not cool that is.0
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