Body Fat Estimate - Where do I stand?

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Okay. Following on from my other thread about how to calculate it...

What does this actually mean? :embarassed: LOL

Body Fat 20%
Fat Mass 28 lbs
Lean Mass 112lbs
Body Fat Category Athletic

Have I really got 28lb of excess fat? I don't really want to weigh 8 stone (well I wouldn't say no but I know I shouldn't).

Is it reasonable to say that with another 14lb of weight loss I should be less wibbly wobbly or do I have to go further into that 28lbs?

As you can see, I'm not very knowledgable in fitness and exercise at all :embarassed:

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  • allie1904
    allie1904 Posts: 248
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    No one? *achem* shameless bump*
  • Sidesteal
    Sidesteal Posts: 5,510 Member
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    Okay. Following on from my other thread about how to calculate it...

    What does this actually mean? :embarassed: LOL

    Fat Mass 28 lbs

    Have I really got 28lb of excess fat?

    No, if your estimate is correct, you have 28lbs of fat. You don't have 28lbs of EXCESS fat, as it's not reasonable to expect to have zero bodyfat. (Not possible).
  • allie1904
    allie1904 Posts: 248
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    Okay. Following on from my other thread about how to calculate it...

    What does this actually mean? :embarassed: LOL

    Fat Mass 28 lbs

    Have I really got 28lb of excess fat?

    No, if your estimate is correct, you have 28lbs of fat. You don't have 28lbs of EXCESS fat, as it's not reasonable to expect to have zero bodyfat. (Not possible).

    Right. So what should I be aiming for % wise? :embarassed:
  • AZackery
    AZackery Posts: 2,035 Member
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    Okay. Following on from my other thread about how to calculate it...

    What does this actually mean? :embarassed: LOL

    Body Fat 20%
    Fat Mass 28 lbs
    Lean Mass 112lbs
    Body Fat Category Athletic

    Have I really got 28lb of excess fat? I don't really want to weigh 8 stone (well I wouldn't say no but I know I shouldn't).

    Is it reasonable to say that with another 14lb of weight loss I should be less wibbly wobbly or do I have to go further into that 28lbs?

    As you can see, I'm not very knowledgable in fitness and exercise at all :embarassed:

    Hi Allie1904, first off, I want to say that scale weight loss and fat loss aren't the same thing. A lot of people think they are the same thing and they are not. Why? For example, a person can lose 5 pounds of scale weight in an hour, but they can't lose 5 pounds of fat in a hour.

    Your pounds of fat is 28. You don't want to lose 28 pounds of fat. If you did, you would die.

    I know how much you weigh. If you want me to, I can break things down further for you and show you how much fat (Not scale weight), you need to focus on losing. and no, it will not be 14 or 28 pounds of scale weight.

    Just leave your yes or no answer. I'm about to soon go work out. When I return, I will check to see if you want me to break things down for you.
  • Jeff92se
    Jeff92se Posts: 3,369 Member
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    Okay. Following on from my other thread about how to calculate it...

    What does this actually mean? :embarassed: LOL

    Body Fat 20%
    Fat Mass 28 lbs
    Lean Mass 112lbs
    Body Fat Category Athletic

    Have I really got 28lb of excess fat? I don't really want to weigh 8 stone (well I wouldn't say no but I know I shouldn't).

    Is it reasonable to say that with another 14lb of weight loss I should be less wibbly wobbly or do I have to go further into that 28lbs?

    As you can see, I'm not very knowledgable in fitness and exercise at all :embarassed:

    Rough calc. If you lose 1/2 of that 28lbs, you'd be running about 10%. IMHO, that's a pretty elite % for a woman. Of course your % calculations could be wrong depending on what equipment was used.

    BUT if you did lose another 14lbs, it won't all be fat. You're going to lose some mucle with it. So if you do lose another 10lbs or so, I'd get tested again (same time of day, same equipment) and see where you stand.

    I'm still debating how to correctly read into diff equipment's readings of bodyfat. It can swing pretty far.
  • allie1904
    allie1904 Posts: 248
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    I weighed in at 140 this morning but It's not my weigh-in day so haven't tracked it.

    I just wanted to know what I should be aiming for really?

    In my head I'm aiming for 126 but I think I'm still going to be wobbling along.
  • allie1904
    allie1904 Posts: 248
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    Okay. Following on from my other thread about how to calculate it...

    What does this actually mean? :embarassed: LOL

    Body Fat 20%
    Fat Mass 28 lbs
    Lean Mass 112lbs
    Body Fat Category Athletic

    Have I really got 28lb of excess fat? I don't really want to weigh 8 stone (well I wouldn't say no but I know I shouldn't).

    Is it reasonable to say that with another 14lb of weight loss I should be less wibbly wobbly or do I have to go further into that 28lbs?

    As you can see, I'm not very knowledgable in fitness and exercise at all :embarassed:

    Rough calc. If you lose 1/2 of that 28lbs, you'd be running about 10%. IMHO, that's a pretty elite % for a woman. Of course your % calculations could be wrong depending on what equipment was used.

    I'm still debating how to correctly read into diff equipment's readings of bodyfat. It can swing pretty far.

    I posted another thread earlier and was given lots of calulators and they all gave me the same reading.

    I haven't got access to a machine or callipers hence the estimate.
  • rocketpants
    rocketpants Posts: 419 Member
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    Here are the body fat ranges for women.
    So I would say you don't want to loose more than 6% more body fat. As a previous poster said that 28 lbs includes essential fat
    Essential Fat 10-12%
    Athletes 14-20%
    Fitness 21-24%
  • Jeff92se
    Jeff92se Posts: 3,369 Member
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    this is a much better discussion than weight vs bmi.
  • Jeff92se
    Jeff92se Posts: 3,369 Member
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    Question. Has someone had their bodyfat done to successfully calculate where their ideal weight should be? Instread of relying on the bmi or some other arbitrary weight goal?
  • allie1904
    allie1904 Posts: 248
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    Question. Has someone had their bodyfat done to successfully calculate where their ideal weight should be? Instread of relying on the bmi or some other arbitrary weight goal?

    I plucked my number out of the sky, as that's all I know!

    I know my BMI is healthy but it's not something I'm religious about.
  • AZackery
    AZackery Posts: 2,035 Member
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    Allie1904,

    Lets look at your results again:

    Weight: 140
    BF: 20%
    Pounds of fat: 28
    Pounds of lean body mass: 112 (Your lean body mass number is the requirement for your body. You want to maintain it or increase. When it starts to decrease, it's because you are losing lean body mass)

    Scale weight loss and fat loss aren't the same thing. When a person say they want to lose weight, they really need to ask themselves if they are talking about scale weight or fat. Anyone can lose 5 pounds of scale weight in an hour, but no one can lose 5 pounds of fat in an hour.

    I try to get people to see the difference between scale weight loss and fat loss.

    If you are aiming to lose 100% fat, then this formula is for you. It will show you what a healthy body fat percentage and future weight are, according to fat loss and not scale weight loss.

    Formula: Attention: The key is to get your current body fat percentage and your future pounds of fat to match.

    Original body fat percentage number written as a number / Original weight = Future body fat percentage

    Original weight x Future body fat percentage = Future pounds of fat

    Original lean body mass + Future pounds of fat = Future healthy weight

    Original pounds fat - Future pounds of fat = Pounds of fat loss at 100% fat loss

    Original weight - Future healthy weight = Future scale weight loss at 100% fat loss

    Original body fat percentage - Future body fat percentage = Body fat percentage loss


    I know that' a lot to digest.

    Lets take your information and see what a 100% fat loss would be:

    20 (Original body fat percentage written as a number) / 140 (Original weight) = 14% (Future body fat percentage)

    140 (Original weight) x 14% (Future body fat percentage) = 20 (Future pounds of fat)

    112 (Original lean body mass) + 20 (Future pounds of fat) = 132 Future healthy weight

    28 (Original pounds of fat) - 20 (Future pounds of fat) = 8 (Pounds of fat loss at 100% fat loss)

    140 (Original weight) - 132 (Future healthy weight) = 8 (Pounds of scale weight loss at 100% fat loss)

    Attention: When a person loses 100% pounds of fat, their fat loss and scale weight loss will be the same

    20% (Original body fat percentage) - 14% (Future body fat percentage) = 6% body fat percentage loss

    Fat loss takes time. It's easy to lose scale weight, but it's not easy to lose fat. Just because you lose 8 pounds, it doesn't mean that it's 100% fat loss.

    For example: On 10-25-11 your results are:

    Weight: 140
    BF: 20%
    Pounds of fat: 28
    Pounds of lean body mass: 112

    On 11-2-11, your results are:

    Weight: 132
    BF: 19%
    Pounds of fat: 25
    Pounds of lean body mass: 107

    The difference:

    140 (Original weight) - 132 (Current weight) = 8 pounds
    20%(Original bf%) - 19% (Current bf%) = 1% body fat percentage loss
    28 (Original pounds of fat) - 25(Current pounds of fat) = 3 pounds of fat loss
    112 (Original lean body mass) - 107 (Current lean body mass) = 5 pounds of lean body mass loss

    Although, you have lost 8 pounds, it doesn't mean you have lost 8 pounds of fat at 100%. Your end results shows that out of the 8 scale weight pounds you have lost, 3 of them were from fat and 5 of them were from lean body mass.

    It's said that the healthy weight loss is to lose between 1 to 2 pounds a week. This is not talking about scale weight It's talking about fat loss. 1 to 2 pounds of fat loss a week, equals 4 to 8 pounds of fat loss a month.

    Is it possible to get 100% fat loss in a week or month? The answer is yes. You can see 100% loss sometimes and sometimes you won't. Don't get discouraged. It's about reaching your future body fat percentage goal. When you get there, you will know that you have lost 100% fat.

    Please keep in mind that 100% fat loss can have you overweight on the height/weight chart and your bmi can be high and that should be fine. Why? Because although your numbers are high, you will look leaner.

    I know to reach my body fat percentage goal, it will take a year or more to get there and I'm fine with that.
  • LaMujerMasBonitaDelMundo
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    Question. Has someone had their bodyfat done to successfully calculate where their ideal weight should be? Instread of relying on the bmi or some other arbitrary weight goal?

    Weight has nothing to do with the body fat percentage. Bodybuilders & some athletes weigh more & have BMI's that fall under overweight or obese & yet they look very lean because their muscle to fat ratio is very good. On the other hand, there are many people who are of normal weight or even underweight in terms of BMI but they look flabby & have body fat percentages that are very high (aka skinny-fat) which by the way isn't desirable & they face the same health risks as the overweight & obese people.
  • mandylooo
    mandylooo Posts: 456 Member
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    What does this actually mean? :embarassed: LOL

    Body Fat 20%
    Fat Mass 28 lbs
    Lean Mass 112lbs
    Body Fat Category Athletic

    That is a very good body fat percentage. Women can have up to up to 30% body fat and be considered "average", though a more normal healthy range would be 21 - 25% and where you are is considered "athletic". 13% is the absolute minimum a woman should go to before they start eating into their essential body fat, but I'm not sure why anyone who wasn't a professional athlete would want to go that low.
    Have I really got 28lb of excess fat? I don't really want to weigh 8 stone (well I wouldn't say no but I know I shouldn't).

    Is it reasonable to say that with another 14lb of weight loss I should be less wibbly wobbly or do I have to go further into that 28lbs?

    As you can see, I'm not very knowledgable in fitness and exercise at all :embarassed:

    I doubt you need to lose any weight if that body fat % is correct - it would only be for vanity.
  • Jeff92se
    Jeff92se Posts: 3,369 Member
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    Question. Has someone had their bodyfat done to successfully calculate where their ideal weight should be? Instread of relying on the bmi or some other arbitrary weight goal?

    Weight has nothing to do with the body fat percentage. Bodybuilders & some athletes weigh more & have BMI's that fall under overweight or obese & yet they look very lean because their muscle to fat ratio is very good. On the other hand, there are many people who are of normal weight or even underweight in terms of BMI but they look flabby & have body fat percentages that are very high (aka skinny-fat) which by the way isn't desirable & they face the same health risks as the overweight & obese people.

    Yes and no. Using your bodyfat, you can determine a healthy weight value at a decent bodyfat. Nothing to do with BMI at all. I've actually said to ignore BMI. Using the bodyfat % and your current weight to calculate your goal weight is much better than blindly using the BMI and/or just "picking" some goal weight that might make you achieve some ridiculously low bodyfat % to achieve. Or make you lose too much muscle masst to achieve (which is never desirable). Both cases would set you up for failure and frustration IMHO
  • katyk00
    katyk00 Posts: 67 Member
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    Thank you for the calculation, so helpful!!! I just got my BF% tested this morning at 21.4% so this thread was perfect
  • allie1904
    allie1904 Posts: 248
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    Wow. That's alot to digest!

    Thanks for your help everyone, I don't really understand alot of it, or how to apply it to setting a goal weight but hey ho!

    :flowerforyou:
  • AZackery
    AZackery Posts: 2,035 Member
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    You are welcome ladies.