Net Calories and eating your exercise calories you earn

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I'm new to MFP and confused on the calories you are given each day. I do exercise, but I don't want to eat more because I am trying to lose weight. I don't understand why the calories you earn are added back to your daily target if you are trying to lose weight.

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  • carolinedb
    carolinedb Posts: 236 Member
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    MFP already builds in your caloric deficit for the day to lose however much you've entered per week. They add your exercise calories back in to keep you within a reasonable, healthy, and sustainable deficit each day.
  • luvlite2
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    For the record...i don't eat my workout calories back. But, some people do. You're gonna have to figure out what works for your body. Good Luck!
  • TeresaWash
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    I'm new too... and I don't get it either.
  • LindsIsTightK
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    I consume the extra calories some days, and other days I don't. Either way, I still come out losing weight in the end. Some weeks, I've even lost more than expected!
  • erickirb
    erickirb Posts: 12,293 Member
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    I'm new to MFP and confused on the calories you are given each day. I do exercise, but I don't want to eat more because I am trying to lose weight. I don't understand why the calories you earn are added back to your daily target if you are trying to lose weight.

    Please eat them the program is set up the way it is for a reason. You initial caloric intake that MFP gives you is to lose your goal amount of weight with no exercise, so once you exercise you need to eat more to lose that amount of weight. (500 cal/day deficit to lose 1 lb/week, if you burn an extra 300 your deficit is not 800, so to keep your deficit at 500 you must eat those 300 extra)

    Most professionals will tell you not to eat your exercise calories back because they added it into your TDEE, whereas MFP ignores exercise and only accounts for it when you perform it. Either way should get you to the same place.

    As an example say MFP gives you 1450 calories to lose 1 lb/week, and you plan on exercising 5x/week for an average of 400 cals per workout. well MFP will tell you to eat 1450 on the days you don't workout and 1850 on the days you do whereas a "professional" may tell you to eat 1750 everyday regardless if you workout.

    So for the week MFP will have you eat 12,150 (1450*2+1850*5) whereas doing it the other way will have you eat 12,250 (1750*7) almost the same number of cals for the week. The issue in not following MFP is if you don't workout the full 5 days or burn more or less than planned. If that is the case you may lose more or less than your goal, whereas MFP will have you lose your goal amount regardless how much you actually workout.

    What many MFPers do is take the low 1450 and not eat back exercise calories which is wrong, if you are not eating them back then your daily activity level should reflect the higher burn with would be covered in the 1750/day above.
  • abahujek
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    I do eat my calories back either... i try go on my target calories... hope it helps:)
  • JeffJohnson26
    JeffJohnson26 Posts: 77 Member
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    Unless I'm mistaken, total calories - calories burned w/ excercise = net calories. Net calories are the amount of calories you need to sustain yourself throughout the day for energy. For example, my girlfriend is given 1200 net calories each day. Yesterday, she burned 1118 doing an 80 minute high intensity class at the gym. That would leave her a total of 82 calories for her meals all day, which is impossible! Your net calories adjust as your excercise is taken into consideration.

    Hope this sheds a little light, and if I'm not right, I hope someone out there corrects me with a more accurate explanation.
  • anubis609
    anubis609 Posts: 3,966 Member
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    Aside from recommending "The URL" - http://shouldieatmyexercisecalories.com, I'm going to start suggesting to people, that ask this question, to set their weekly goal to maintain weight and then suggest that they wouldn't have to eat all of their exercise calories. They can figure out their own deficit at that point.
  • jacksonpt
    jacksonpt Posts: 10,413 Member
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    It depends on how you use MFP.

    You can setup your diet so you are at a deficit in order to lose weight (i.e. consume fewer calories than you burn). In this case, you should eat back the calories you burn during exercise to maintain the original deficit (too large a deficit can be unhealthy).

    You can setup your diet so you are at maintenance, then use exercise to create the deficit. In that case, don't eat back your calories.

    By default, calories area added back because most people set their diet to a deficit in order to lose weight. As such, based solely on their diet they are going to burn more calories than they consume, and thus lose weight. When they exercise on top of that, the additional calories burned create a greater deficit. MFP adds back those calories so people return to the original deficit, not the increased deficit which can be unhealthy.

    Now, all that is pretty generalized and someone over simplified, but hopefully it makes sense and answers your question.


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  • ddoohaluk
    ddoohaluk Posts: 40 Member
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    Erickirb gave a great explanation of how it all works.

    I eat my exercise calories back (or at a minimium a portion of them) and can not even begin to comprehend how people do NOT eat their exercise calories back. There is no way I could survive on 1200 calories a day and 10-12 hours of training a week. If i have a couple of days in a row where I do not eat a significant portion of my exercise calories back I can feel it in my workouts - my run pace get slower, my power watts on the bike fall and I feel horrible. There is no way I could seriously train for my running and triathlon events without eating my exercise calories back.
  • JeffJohnson26
    JeffJohnson26 Posts: 77 Member
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    I'm new to MFP and confused on the calories you are given each day. I do exercise, but I don't want to eat more because I am trying to lose weight. I don't understand why the calories you earn are added back to your daily target if you are trying to lose weight.

    Please eat them the program is set up the way it is for a reason. You initial caloric intake that MFP gives you is to lose your goal amount of weight with no exercise, so once you exercise you need to eat more to lose that amount of weight. (500 cal/day deficit to lose 1 lb/week, if you burn an extra 300 your deficit is not 800, so to keep your deficit at 500 you must eat those 300 extra)

    Most professionals will tell you not to eat your exercise calories back because they added it into your TDEE, whereas MFP ignores exercise and only accounts for it when you perform it. Either way should get you to the same place.

    As an example say MFP gives you 1450 calories to lose 1 lb/week, and you plan on exercising 5x/week for an average of 400 cals per workout. well MFP will tell you to eat 1450 on the days you don't workout and 1850 on the days you do whereas a "professional" may tell you to eat 1750 everyday regardless if you workout.

    So for the week MFP will have you eat 12,150 (1450*2+1850*5) whereas doing it the other way will have you eat 12,250 (1750*7) almost the same number of cals for the week. The issue in not following MFP is if you don't workout the full 5 days or burn more or less than planned. If that is the case you may lose more or less than your goal, whereas MFP will have you lose your goal amount regardless how much you actually workout.

    What many MFPers do is take the low 1450 and not eat back exercise calories which is wrong, if you are not eating them back then your daily activity level should reflect the higher burn with would be covered in the 1750/day above.

    Well said!
  • Jennyzfit
    Jennyzfit Posts: 175 Member
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    As a "Seasoned" MFP'er you should eat your calories back. Works well because MFP has you at minimal calorie intake to lose up to 1-2 pounds a week. Your body needs fuel and if you don't give it yfuel, your going to lose quality minerals and nutrition and your body will put itself into 'starvation' mode where it will keep on the weight. Hope this helps you. :drinker:
  • barwood
    barwood Posts: 48 Member
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    I just eat my 1200 calories and if I feel hungry later i eat an apple or something low calorie and don't worry about the rest. I never go over my daily calorie count.And if I do as long as I work out its ok.Maybe I'm wrong about this I don't know but it works for me.
  • Scorpioangel
    Scorpioangel Posts: 951 Member
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    It was confusing to me so I just stayed at 1,600 and did very well!
  • nomorewishing
    nomorewishing Posts: 250 Member
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    Ok, I'm still a little confused (sad, I know!). My net goal is 1490, I earned 892 exercising and now I have 645 left, I'm supposed to eat those 645 calories? :huh: :noway:
  • LivyJo
    LivyJo Posts: 355 Member
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    Ok, I'm still a little confused (sad, I know!). My net goal is 1490, I earned 892 exercising and now I have 645 left, I'm supposed to eat those 645 calories? :huh: :noway:

    Yep, that's right! If you don't eat them, you are functioning on 845 calories for the day. They say you need minimally 1200 calories for your body just to perform every day functions. So you may experience tiredness or get sick easier, etc. etc. if its not getting the fuel it needs to function.
  • nomorewishing
    nomorewishing Posts: 250 Member
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    Ok, I'm still a little confused (sad, I know!). My net goal is 1490, I earned 892 exercising and now I have 645 left, I'm supposed to eat those 645 calories? :huh: :noway:

    Yep, that's right! If you don't eat them, you are functioning on 845 calories for the day. They say you need minimally 1200 calories for your body just to perform every day functions. So you may experience tiredness or get sick easier, etc. etc. if its not getting the fuel it needs to function.
    Even though it says that I consumed 1737 calories today?
  • spicypepper
    spicypepper Posts: 1,016 Member
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    So I think I'm more confused... So if I have 1200 calorie daily intake. I burn say an average of 700 calories 5x a week. Do I not add the 1200 + 700 to get 1900 calories to consume daily? To which I never eat that many and always have between 300-700 calories remaining.

    Although now that I'm pregnant, I try to eat back my exercised calories burned which is lower (1500 + ~ 500= 2000).

    The way I'm reading this thread is that your subtracting the calories burned? (1200-700=500) Or is my brain already fried at 7 weeks preggers?
  • erickirb
    erickirb Posts: 12,293 Member
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    So I think I'm more confused... So if I have 1200 calorie daily intake. I burn say an average of 700 calories 5x a week. Do I not add the 1200 + 700 to get 1900 calories to consume daily? To which I never eat that many and always have between 300-700 calories remaining.

    Although now that I'm pregnant, I try to eat back my exercised calories burned which is lower (1500 + ~ 500= 2000).

    The way I'm reading this thread is that your subtracting the calories burned? (1200-700=500) Or is my brain already fried at 7 weeks preggers?

    Congrats on being preggers.

    You should eat the 1900 in the example you gave is you only at 1200 and burned 700, would be like eating 500 (1200-700) and not exercising, if you ate 1900 and burned 700 it would be the same as eating 1200 (1900-700) and not exercising. The MFP goal of 1200 is your goal to lose your goal amount of weight with no exercise, once you exercise you need to eat more to lose your goal amount of weight.

    1200-700 = 500- 0
  • jyork5407
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    Bumping for when I get confused/lost and need a refresher.