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KaleidoscopeEyes1056
KaleidoscopeEyes1056 Posts: 2,996 Member
edited October 5 in Chit-Chat
A very philosophical question put forth by one of my friends and I want your input.
In Death Note, you die if your name is written in the notebook (I'm not going to go into the whole show... ) you die.
However, if you change your name and somebody writes your name in the Death Note, do you still die? why do you think that?
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  • i_love_vinegar
    i_love_vinegar Posts: 2,092 Member
    A very philosophical question put forth by one of my friends and I want your input.
    In Death Note, you die if your name is written in the notebook (I'm not going to go into the whole show... ) you die.
    However, if you change your name and somebody writes your name in the Death Note, do you still die? why do you think that?
    I think you still die, because the name is a representation of who you were and thus will stay with you. You cannot change the core of who you are...even if you change your appearance and persona, you will be the same person at the core.

    ps: A name is only a way of easily calling someone. If you do not remember someone's name you can still say something like, "That person whos name used to be ____" or "That guy with the red hair and weird voice." ^^
  • KaleidoscopeEyes1056
    KaleidoscopeEyes1056 Posts: 2,996 Member
    also, any anime fans are free to add me. In fact, you're encouraged to do so!
  • jasmineheaven
    jasmineheaven Posts: 189
    A very philosophical question put forth by one of my friends and I want your input.
    In Death Note, you die if your name is written in the notebook (I'm not going to go into the whole show... ) you die.
    However, if you change your name and somebody writes your name in the Death Note, do you still die? why do you think that?
    Wow its been a while since I watched that show...from my understanding..yes you still die.
  • jasmineheaven
    jasmineheaven Posts: 189
    That was a good showing Im going to download that, thanks!
  • KaleidoscopeEyes1056
    KaleidoscopeEyes1056 Posts: 2,996 Member
    A very philosophical question put forth by one of my friends and I want your input.
    In Death Note, you die if your name is written in the notebook (I'm not going to go into the whole show... ) you die.
    However, if you change your name and somebody writes your name in the Death Note, do you still die? why do you think that?
    I think you still die, because the name is a representation of who you were and thus will stay with you. You cannot change the core of who you are...even if you change your appearance and persona, you will be the same person at the core.

    so do you think it would be the same as if two people have the same name, it's the one who you are thinking of when writing it?
  • i_love_vinegar
    i_love_vinegar Posts: 2,092 Member
    A very philosophical question put forth by one of my friends and I want your input.
    In Death Note, you die if your name is written in the notebook (I'm not going to go into the whole show... ) you die.
    However, if you change your name and somebody writes your name in the Death Note, do you still die? why do you think that?
    I think you still die, because the name is a representation of who you were and thus will stay with you. You cannot change the core of who you are...even if you change your appearance and persona, you will be the same person at the core.

    so do you think it would be the same as if two people have the same name, it's the one who you are thinking of when writing it?

    Yes. Feelings etc are most likely transferred as well. Ever went into someones house and felt very warm and cozy? Or howabout felt very stressed and cold? Vibes ^^
  • KaleidoscopeEyes1056
    KaleidoscopeEyes1056 Posts: 2,996 Member
    A very philosophical question put forth by one of my friends and I want your input.
    In Death Note, you die if your name is written in the notebook (I'm not going to go into the whole show... ) you die.
    However, if you change your name and somebody writes your name in the Death Note, do you still die? why do you think that?
    I think you still die, because the name is a representation of who you were and thus will stay with you. You cannot change the core of who you are...even if you change your appearance and persona, you will be the same person at the core.

    so do you think it would be the same as if two people have the same name, it's the one who you are thinking of when writing it?

    Yes.

    that would make since.
  • gashinshotan
    gashinshotan Posts: 749 Member
    That was the major flaw of the series.... names are artificial and arbitrary - people give each other names so how does that connect with someone's soul?
  • KaleidoscopeEyes1056
    KaleidoscopeEyes1056 Posts: 2,996 Member
    how would it work if a person was under an alias, such as people in the witness protection program? I mean it could be the same, but I want some debate!! (friendly debate that is)
  • woou
    woou Posts: 668 Member
    hm... didn't L fake his name on a newscast once, but he wasn't the one to die although Light was thinking of him? i haven't read the manga in a while.
  • KaleidoscopeEyes1056
    KaleidoscopeEyes1056 Posts: 2,996 Member
    hm... didn't L fake his name on a newscast once, but he wasn't the one to die although Light was thinking of him? i haven't read the manga in a while.

    that is true, so the name isn't really the important part, it's the person you are thinking of.
  • gashinshotan
    gashinshotan Posts: 749 Member
    There's so many better psychological animes.... boogiepop phantom, paranoia agent, welcome to NHK, lain and even ghost in the shell
  • KaleidoscopeEyes1056
    KaleidoscopeEyes1056 Posts: 2,996 Member
    There's so many better psychological animes.... boogiepop phantom, paranoia agent, welcome to NHL, lain and even ghost in the shell

    OMG!!! I LOVE LOVE LOVE!! boogiepop and lain and I've never met anybody else who did!! I am friending now!!!
  • therealkatarr
    therealkatarr Posts: 32
    Maybe it depends on what they think their name is..? Like, if they identify with the new witness protection name then it would take.
    Example: I'm born Jane Doe, but when I go into witness protection I become Edna Mode. If I still consider myself Jane Doe, who is going by Edna, then Jane Doe would be the name that would apply.

    I'm with gasinshotan, though. Names are definitely arbitrary, so that's why I'm going with the self-identification bit. :) [It would also explain the fact that L was able to use aliases and avoid dying... possibly..? It has been a while.]
  • woou
    woou Posts: 668 Member
    There's so many better psychological animes.... boogiepop phantom, paranoia agent, welcome to NHL, lain and even ghost in the shell

    i didn't really understand lain, and i watched it twice. will check out the other ones.
  • KaleidoscopeEyes1056
    KaleidoscopeEyes1056 Posts: 2,996 Member
    Maybe it depends on what they think their name is..? Like, if they identify with the new witness protection name then it would take.
    Example: I'm born Jane Doe, but when I go into witness protection I become Edna Mode. If I still consider myself Jane Doe, who is going by Edna, then Jane Doe would be the name that would apply.

    I'm with gasinshotan, though. Names are definitely arbitrary, so that's why I'm going with the self-identification bit. :) [It would also explain the fact that L was able to use aliases and avoid dying... possibly..? It has been a while.]

    he doesn't die when "he" makes the tv appearance because when Light pictures L, he's picturing the wrong person.
  • cppeace
    cppeace Posts: 764 Member
    not seen this anime but heard a ton about it. Yeah you still would die. You are not your name. It is given to you or you choose it. Still isnt you just represents you.
    I looove anime :)
    Kimmy
  • Apryl546
    Apryl546 Posts: 909 Member
    I never watched the anime, one of these days I'll watch it.. Haha.

    But I still think you would die regardless.

    The movies were good though!
  • gashinshotan
    gashinshotan Posts: 749 Member
    Haha yeah they're so good but they're so unknown... Ive watched both of them repeatedly but Boogiepop is prob my favorite... never seen the movies yet though
    There's so many better psychological animes.... boogiepop phantom, paranoia agent, welcome to NHL, lain and even ghost in the shell

    OMG!!! I LOVE LOVE LOVE!! boogiepop and lain and I've never met anybody else who did!! I am friending now!!!
  • TrishaLeighNelson
    TrishaLeighNelson Posts: 258 Member
    A very philosophical question put forth by one of my friends and I want your input.
    In Death Note, you die if your name is written in the notebook (I'm not going to go into the whole show... ) you die.
    However, if you change your name and somebody writes your name in the Death Note, do you still die? why do you think that?
    I think you still die, because the name is a representation of who you were and thus will stay with you. You cannot change the core of who you are...even if you change your appearance and persona, you will be the same person at the core.

    ps: A name is only a way of easily calling someone. If you do not remember someone's name you can still say something like, "That person whos name used to be ____" or "That guy with the red hair and weird voice." ^^

    I agree with the first part....but your second part is completely wrong...it says that you need to have their name and their image in your mind. Not just "Oh..that one person who said this" "that one person who has red hair" It stricly says write their name and have their face in your mind
  • TrishaLeighNelson
    TrishaLeighNelson Posts: 258 Member
    There's so many better psychological animes.... boogiepop phantom, paranoia agent, welcome to NHK, lain and even ghost in the shell

    Nooo way! Those are NOT better! What are you THINKING?! They are absolutly horrible!~
  • gashinshotan
    gashinshotan Posts: 749 Member
    Haha deathnote was too shallow and predictable compared to these.... I mean the change of the main character into a selfish killer was stretched out too long!
    There's so many better psychological animes.... boogiepop phantom, paranoia agent, welcome to NHK, lain and even ghost in the shell

    Nooo way! Those are NOT better! What are you THINKING?! They are absolutly horrible!~
  • woou
    woou Posts: 668 Member
    I wish there was a live action series of DN, although I loved the movies. I wanted to see L's successors duke it out.
  • i_love_vinegar
    i_love_vinegar Posts: 2,092 Member
    There's so many better psychological animes.... boogiepop phantom, paranoia agent, welcome to NHK, lain and even ghost in the shell

    Nooo way! Those are NOT better! What are you THINKING?! They are absolutly horrible!~

    I have to agree...Especially Lain...hated that anime XD
  • Anayalata
    Anayalata Posts: 391 Member
    I think they explained the whole changing name thing.

    You have to have the name that they identify themselves with and an image of what they look like in your "mind's eye"(so to speak) as you write their name down.

    PS.
    Welcome to NHK is amazing.
  • Yakisoba
    Yakisoba Posts: 719 Member
    ._. This calls for an anime group. =D Si/Si?

    I want to make a group, but ... I would much rather be a mod. >_<
  • i_love_vinegar
    i_love_vinegar Posts: 2,092 Member
    ._. This calls for an anime group. =D Si/Si?

    I want to make a group, but ... I would much rather be a mod. >_<

    I agree! I want to just be a member though~I already run the kpop, cpop, jpop group..>.<
  • gashinshotan
    gashinshotan Posts: 749 Member
    I was just about to say we needed a group... its freaking weird how so many people think the same things
  • Yakisoba
    Yakisoba Posts: 719 Member
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/groups/home/679-all-things-anime I did it. ;-; Someone help me.. ;-;
  • KaleidoscopeEyes1056
    KaleidoscopeEyes1056 Posts: 2,996 Member
    ._. This calls for an anime group. =D Si/Si?

    I want to make a group, but ... I would much rather be a mod. >_<

    HELL. YES.
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