EU bans drinks manufacturer from claiming water prevents deh
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So I've just seen the article in which the american government have said pizza can be classed as a vegetable and this that water doesn't prevent dehydration. What is going on?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/8897662/EU-bans-claim-that-water-can-prevent-dehydration.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/8897662/EU-bans-claim-that-water-can-prevent-dehydration.html
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Well ... you could drink water and then end up dehydrated at some point, so technically, it doesn't "prevent" it so much as "treat" it.
Maybe?
I guess it's a stretch ...0 -
If you believe anything the EU tells you... Good to know all that money we give them doesn't go to waste on frivolous nonsense.
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there is nothing in the article about pizza. 30 years ago, Ronald Reagan declared ketchup could be substituted for a vegetable in school lunches - since then there has been no common sense in government.0
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There is just nothing like government.0
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there is nothing in the article about pizza. 30 years ago, Ronald Reagan declared ketchup could be substituted for a vegetable in school lunches - since then there has been no common sense in government.
That's on another thread.0 -
there is nothing in the article about pizza. 30 years ago, Ronald Reagan declared ketchup could be substituted for a vegetable in school lunches - since then there has been no common sense in government.
OMG
Are you serious!
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there is nothing in the article about pizza. 30 years ago, Ronald Reagan declared ketchup could be substituted for a vegetable in school lunches - since then there has been no common sense in government.
im afraid that the lack of common sense in the government goes back further than Reagan.... one thing you can count on regardless of political affiliations is the stupidity of our government as a whole.0 -
I thought this was a "the onion" article when I first read it. Unbelievable.0
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im seriously awaiting the time when Brawndo just buys out the FDA.
Its got Electrolytes!0 -
So I've just seen ... that water doesn't prevent dehydration. What is going on?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/8897662/EU-bans-claim-that-water-can-prevent-dehydration.html
Don't believe everything you read in newspapers. It's another Euromyth. See:
http://euromove.blogactiv.eu/2011/11/21/anatomy-of-a-euromyth/0 -
So I've just seen the article in which the american government have said pizza can be classed as a vegetable and this that water doesn't prevent dehydration. What is going on?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/8897662/EU-bans-claim-that-water-can-prevent-dehydration.html
Pizza a vegetable, all to do with the tomato on top apparently.
Regarding water preventing dehydration (or not preventing it), it prevents it. Try not drinking any for a day and see just how dehydrated you feel then.
It is time for people to start using their common sense lol0 -
"The claim from the manufacturer was that drinking lots of water can "can reduce the risk of development of dehydration" is therefore false and the ruling appropriate."
Drinking water will hydrate you. But it can't stop you getting dehydrated in future. It's not a vaccine.0 -
So I've just seen ... that water doesn't prevent dehydration. What is going on?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/8897662/EU-bans-claim-that-water-can-prevent-dehydration.html
Don't believe everything you read in newspapers. It's another Euromyth. See:
http://euromove.blogactiv.eu/2011/11/21/anatomy-of-a-euromyth/
Although I really don't care if this particular nugget is true or not I wouldn't believe everything you read on Euromove. It only posts things that serve its purpose of trying to get brits to want to bind themselves further to the EU especially since more and more brits want to break from the EU instead.0 -
I kind of get this having read the facts.... Its about whether dehydration is classed as a disease (which its not) and therefore it is not a disease which can be prevented by consumption of water.
Additionally - its about the difference between 'prevents' and 'reduces the risk of'
Finally - its about the indirect messaging that bottled water is MORE hydrating than other beverages - which isn't always the case.
That said.. completely bloody waste of tax payers money - we're not completely stupid!!!0 -
There are a lot of idiotic people in the world, that's all I'll say0
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Pizza a vegetable, all to do with the tomato on top apparently.
This makes me laugh, yes tomato is a veg, but by that kind of thinking a McD's buger is then too a veg.... as it has lettuce on it.
The water thing, is just a waste of time and resources that the EU clearly does not have spare right now, and even if they had, use them wisely to solve real problems!0 -
"The claim from the manufacturer was that drinking lots of water can "can reduce the risk of development of dehydration" is therefore false and the ruling appropriate."
Drinking water will hydrate you. But it can't stop you getting dehydrated in future. It's not a vaccine.
Actually, good point. Rather similar to sleep, you can't store that either. Yes, I see what you mean now x0 -
Thanks0
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So I've just seen the article in which the american government have said pizza can be classed as a vegetable and this that water doesn't prevent dehydration. What is going on?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/8897662/EU-bans-claim-that-water-can-prevent-dehydration.html
There is a lot more that goes into being dehydrated than just drinking water. Yes, water is the optimal drink, but through the foods you eat you need enough sodium, potassium, magnesium, etc to keep the electrolytes balanced.
If I need to replenish my electrolytes I grab coconut water. It is pure and natural and contains all of the necessary components to keep the body in balance.0 -
im seriously awaiting the time when Brawndo just buys out the FDA.
Its got Electrolytes!
"BRAWNDO...It makes you win at things you aren't even supposed to win at ! Like Yelling! YOU CAN WIN AT YELLING!!!"
Great movie...0 -
Pizza a vegetable, all to do with the tomato on top apparently.
This makes me laugh, yes tomato is a veg, but by that kind of thinking a McD's buger is then too a veg.... as it has lettuce on it.
The water thing, is just a waste of time and resources that the EU clearly does not have spare right now, and even if they had, use them wisely to solve real problems!
Tomatoes are fruits, not vegetables.0 -
That said.. completely bloody waste of tax payers money - we're not completely stupid!!!
- Half the people on this thread really believe that the EU says water does not hydrate without trying to understand,
- Marketers love to say stuff like: "Actimel,strengthens the body's natural defences", which can be said about pretty much every food, yet they made millions out of that campaign.
Don't know which brand tried to add the claim that their water "can reduce the risk of development of dehydration" on their bottle, but I think they must be really annoyed at what the EU actually just did to them. And I think it's only fair.0 -
Pizza a vegetable, all to do with the tomato on top apparently.
This makes me laugh, yes tomato is a veg, but by that kind of thinking a McD's buger is then too a veg.... as it has lettuce on it.
The water thing, is just a waste of time and resources that the EU clearly does not have spare right now, and even if they had, use them wisely to solve real problems!
Tomatoes are fruits, not vegetables.0 -
I think certain kinds of pizza could be classified as a vegetable. This, however, doesn't make it healthy. There are plenty of veggies doused in sauces, sauteed in oils, covered in cheese, that are far from healthy, but they're still a veggie.0
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Pizza a vegetable, all to do with the tomato on top apparently.
This makes me laugh, yes tomato is a veg, but by that kind of thinking a McD's buger is then too a veg.... as it has lettuce on it.
The water thing, is just a waste of time and resources that the EU clearly does not have spare right now, and even if they had, use them wisely to solve real problems!
Tomatoes are fruits, not vegetables.
Not only is it a fruit, its a berry, unlike Strawberries, blackberries, raspberries, etc , which aren't berries.0 -
So I've just seen ... that water doesn't prevent dehydration. What is going on?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/8897662/EU-bans-claim-that-water-can-prevent-dehydration.html
Don't believe everything you read in newspapers. It's another Euromyth. See:
http://euromove.blogactiv.eu/2011/11/21/anatomy-of-a-euromyth/0 -
What the EU actually said is here:
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http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2011:299:0001:0003:EN:PDF
Article 2(2)(6) of Regulation (EC) No 1924/2006 defines reduction of disease risk claims as 'any health claim that states, suggests or implies that the consumption of a food category, a food or one of its constituents significantly reduces a risk factor in the development of a human disease'. Upon request for clarification, the applicant proposed water loss in tissues or reduced water content in tissues as risk factors of dehydration. On the basis of the data presented, the Authority concluded in its opinion received by the Commission and the Member States on 16 February 2011 that the proposed risk factors are measures of water depletion and thus are measures of the disease. Accordingly, as a risk factor in the development of a disease is not shown to be reduced, the claim does not comply with the requirements of Regulation (EC) No 1924/2006 and it should not be authorised.
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The so-called "pizza as vegetable" story was actually a debate about credit for vegetable concentrate. The US government currently says:
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http://www.fns.usda.gov/tn/resources/FBG_Section_2-VegFruits.pdf
Vegetable and fruit concentrates are allowed to be credited on an “as if single-strength reconstituted basis” rather than on the actual volume as served.
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The US government treats tomato as a vegetable. See:
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http://www.ars.usda.gov/Services/docs.htm?docid=16646
"Though botanically a fruit, in 1893 the U.S. Supreme Court ruled the tomato was a vegetable (NIX v. HEDDEN, 149 U.S. 304). The import tax placed on vegetables (but not fruits) protected U.S. tomato growers from foreign markets."
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