Bariatric Surgery

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  • SHDenver
    SHDenver Posts: 87 Member
    It doesn't matter if you choose surgery or diet to lose weight, if you don't change your lifestyle you will gain it back. That is why diets don't work. You have to make a lifetime change in your eating habits. You cannot lose the weight and then go back to eating the way you did before. With the surgery you have to work just as hard with your diet and exercise. No one way is the right way for everyone. Everyone is different.

    This is a part of my post that I missed! The surgery is a forced lifestyle change that can be reversed and will be over time. You have to be able to commit to that change and stay, or it won't work the way you want it to. (Take the last year and a half for me.)
  • Thank you everyone for your responses!!! Even the heated moments because these are the arguments i am having with myself

    .. i am signed up for the bypass surgery, the lapband has not been very successful, with men my age, and i have several other co mobidities.. and one is acid reflux, which the lap band does not help as much...

    the diabetes is my main concern, since i just reached 6 years, and most endo.. doctors, believe you have 7 years to turn it around with the surgery... i am surprised that i have not been able to drop my insulin amount since i have lost the 34 pounds.

    the reason the dr. wants 300 is he thinks that most of my weight is in my stomach, so if i lost the 40 pounds that my stomach supposidly will shrink...

    and thanks, i wondered too, if the dr.would cancel the surgery if i dont loose the weight...

    lol, i did pass the pyshiatric interview, about my eating habbits, so either she feels that i can overcome it... or i am crazy enough to fool her.... guess i will find that one out afterwards....

    i had lost 80 pounds after i was first diagnosed with diabetes, from fear of dying... but unfortunately it doesnt take long to figure out how to eat a lot, and not raise your sugar level... so when i quit smoking a few months later, it all came back, i got down to 302, i did not break the 300 pound barrier, which i have weighed for about 20 years....

    thanks i wrote all the pros and cons down and will definately go over them over and over again, until the day of decision comes...
  • RisyaLifsheTova
    RisyaLifsheTova Posts: 305 Member
    Here are my thoughts on it. I was going to do lapband. I was finally going to get down and serious about it. I joined Jenny Craig to lose the weight needed to do that lapband. But heres my thought. Why in the world would I sit there and get a serious surgery that is going to limit me in the things I like to eat and enjoy when I can just train myself to ear properly and healthier?

    As soon as I started that I was on my way to a happier, healthier me :) I started this program at 320lbs and I am currently 217lbs. If I have made it this far, and have lost 102lbs.....and I only have 59 more to go.....why put my body through all that :) I am healthier, and more athletic, and I dont have to watch what I eat to make sure it doesnt damage my stomach or anything like that. I can still live my life enjoying what I like just in moderate portions. I also allow myself to splurge once a week if I want to.

    Im learning that I dont really enjoy over eating and my stomach actually lets me know that.

    Go with your GUT! Literally! Youll make the right decision. To me getting surgery like that is a choice. If you can do the wieght loss without the surgery and youve accomplish the wieght loss that you have. Who needs surgery?>
  • 7ophelia
    7ophelia Posts: 1 Member
    My Twin sister is having a gastric sleeve surgery this week. Whereas I only have around 50 pounds to loose, she has around 150. I truly think it is the best choice for her. Surgery isn't the easy way out, I know she is scared because she has 2 children and it is surgery, but she has medical issues that might be solved with weight loss. If you can loose weight without surgery then good for you, most can't and won't. I also know 2 people who have had the gastric bypass surgery (one had the duodenal switch type) and both are very happy with their choices, because it may have bought them a few more years of health, but you will have to weight the advantages versus the disadvantages.

    As someone who has dieted for years (I do not remember a valentines day, when I wasn't dieting) real changes are hard. I even did a complete liquid diet and did loose all the weight I needed , but here I am dieting again 2 years later. I have never been very large, but if I was and it threaten the quality of my life such as being diabetic, then I would consider it.

    My advice, talk to talk your doctor and nutritionist and see what they think (surgery programs usually require meetings with a nutritionist and a therapist to judge if you are a good canidate for the surgery).

    No one on this board, can tell you what is right for you, only what they think is right for them.
    You know you best.
    what ever you you decide, good luck on your road to health :)
  • Leighbie1987 is also in her twenties, and presumably much healthier to do something like this. I wonder what doctor approved such a young person when they clearly could have done it on their own, given how determined she seems (she's on MFP for one!).

    I am 26 and was 450lbs I had Bariatric Surgery to save my life. I will tell you what doctor approves bariatric surgery for someone in their 20's, a doctor that wants to save a life. My surgeon saved mine ... I have lost 136 lbs since surgery and 176 lbs from my highest! I am only 8 months out and the surgery was the best decision I ever made.

    You should not pass judgement with out knowing and or walking in other people's shoes first!...

    I have dieted my WHOLE LIFE!!! YES even as a child in elementary school counting calories, that should be illegal! I messed up my metabolism very early out.

    You need to be better informed on the science behind the metabolism and how everyone is different before you go and judge someone for having surgery in their 20's, if anything many people wish they would have done it earlier. It saves lives!
  • Thank you everyone for your responses!!! Even the heated moments because these are the arguments i am having with myself

    .. i am signed up for the bypass surgery, the lapband has not been very successful, with men my age, and i have several other co mobidities.. and one is acid reflux, which the lap band does not help as much...

    the diabetes is my main concern, since i just reached 6 years, and most endo.. doctors, believe you have 7 years to turn it around with the surgery... i am surprised that i have not been able to drop my insulin amount since i have lost the 34 pounds.

    the reason the dr. wants 300 is he thinks that most of my weight is in my stomach, so if i lost the 40 pounds that my stomach supposidly will shrink...

    and thanks, i wondered too, if the dr.would cancel the surgery if i dont loose the weight...

    lol, i did pass the pyshiatric interview, about my eating habbits, so either she feels that i can overcome it... or i am crazy enough to fool her.... guess i will find that one out afterwards....

    i had lost 80 pounds after i was first diagnosed with diabetes, from fear of dying... but unfortunately it doesnt take long to figure out how to eat a lot, and not raise your sugar level... so when i quit smoking a few months later, it all came back, i got down to 302, i did not break the 300 pound barrier, which i have weighed for about 20 years....

    thanks i wrote all the pros and cons down and will definately go over them over and over again, until the day of decision comes...

    I would give the Duodenal Switch a look before you decide --- you can learn more at www.dsfacts.com
  • Kiminita,

    Who the hell are you to bash people for their choice of weight loss. This is not a cookie cutter process. Everyone has different needs and emotional make up. if you have been able to lose the weight by diet, that's awesome. But this is a site for support, not to bash someones choices. YES, I have had weight loss surgery, and have lost over 150 pounds in the last 11 months. It was the best thing I ever did and I should have done it years earlier. I have lost and gained 100's of pounds throughout my life. Lets quit the judgements and bashing and give people the support they need. The best thing to do is if you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything at all.

    AMEN!
  • I think you should keep going with MFP and avoid the surgery if you can. I know several folks who have had the surgery, and only one who was actually able to keep off the weight. The others put it back on because they still overate. It seems healthier, although slower, to lose the weight by modifying what you eat than through surgery. Laproscopic or not, it's still invasive.

    you must not know enough people who have had WLS because I had the Duodenal Switch and the success rate is a lot high, I know people that are 10 years out and still maintaining their weight loss. Check your facts before you go and bash.
  • lindasain
    lindasain Posts: 163 Member
    I think it is something to really think about.. I think you can lose some now so you can have the surgery. I chose not to have the surgery my insurane was a big drawn back for me then i have a cousin who had it done and had major problem.. from what i heard it is not so easy as it sounds there is a lot of work to lose it either way you go.. keep us informed what you decidee.. i am here to support you!:flowerforyou: :flowerforyou: :flowerforyou: :flowerforyou: :flowerforyou: :flowerforyou:
  • Leighby1987: You chose to have a life, not wait for your life. Don't ever apologize for your decision to have surgery. It is not an easy fix and it is not for whimps. There is no one right answer for everybody.

    I couldnt have said it better myself!
  • I can definitely see your situation being a hard one to figure out. Losing the weight is do-able not just to get to the 300lbs but to get to goal. The only problem is that not all of us are able to stick with something long enough to get to goal before any serious health issues arise. I've known people that lost over 100lbs with and without surgery. Its a hard call, I would say if you're not currently battling any life or death health issues and have an adequate support system around you outside of MFP try doing it slowly on your own but if your doctor said your diabetes is very bad and you're currently taking insulin then if its me I would do the surgery to ensure no life threatening situation. Bottom-line its a decision only you can make and I wish you all the best. I'm not sure if you believe in the power of praying but if you do take it to the Lord and ask for his guidance. Good Luck.
  • CyberEd312
    CyberEd312 Posts: 3,536 Member
    I joined this site roughly 4 weeks ago looking for some options to my weightloss, I am always trying to mix it up and even after 28 months I am constantly learning. Look you can tell people feel strongly on both sides of the equation but whether your right and I am wrong or vise versa is a stupid argument for either side to have when it comes right down to it, I for one am happy for anyone that is able to regain control of their life regardless. 28 months ago I was starring down the barrel of a load hand gun. I had ate myself into corner. Severe depression, food addictions, Severe social phobia's... I couldn't walk from room to room, I was 560 lbs. and I literally had not left the house in 2 years. After 3 days of contemplating taking the easy way out I finally had that Aha moment and when my wife came home I took the first step any addict can take and that is admitting I had a problem and that I needed Help... When you hit rock bottom and have nowhere to go but up (and even though you don't know how to get out of the hole you have dug yourself into) You stop saying no and start saying yes no matter what and that is what I did. I knew from the start Surgery was Not an option for Me. I weighed 230 in the 6th grade 160 in the 7th grade 250 in the 9th grade 280 when I graduated, 209 when I came out of the Army, and 560lbs. at my worst. I knew for me if I didn't fix the problems in my head then no matter what I did there was no way I could fix the weight issues once and for all. So I gave into the process, and said yes to whatever I was asked to do. I found out I had full blown type 2 diabetes, along with a host of other Super morbidly obese problems. Everything was baby steps, from therapy both mental and physical, and I took each small victory in stride and continued to set new goals. I knew this time there was going to be no second chance and that I had to commit this time and not give in to temptations like I had so many times in the past. I worked with a dietician from the beginning and we got me structured so that I dropped roughly 2 pounds a week. I had to start exercising in the water because I could not support my weight on land. I spent the first 1 1/2 years in the pool and dropped 175 lbs. then I was fitted for braces for both knee's (have grade 3 osteoarthritis both knee's torn meniscus both knee's and torn ACL in my left knee) I am on 3 pain pills and get knee injections to by time to get through my weightloss then I will be getting knee replacements. This month marked a major milestone on my journey, I am now literally half the man I use to be... Current weight 277 lbs. Amount Lost: 283 lbs. So my point is you have to weigh out your options and what is best for you, Was my way easy, Heck No!!! I have alot of blood, sweat and tears in my journey and I am not done yet, but I finally got it.... I didn't go on a diet this time, I knew this was going to be a total lifestyle change and until you are able to admit to that you won't be successful either way you decide to go. Just make sure whatever you do it is your decision and you can live with it and then do what is best for you...... I wish you all the best on your journey.......
  • Tiggerrick
    Tiggerrick Posts: 1,078 Member
    EdDavenport: Thanks for sharing... inspiring..

    Re:surgery.. No surgery is 100% safe. I used to work at a hospital that did gastric bipass surgeries and I've seen it work great; and I've seen it not work well at all to the detriment of the patient (and at least one coworker/friend). Ed is right, you have to start with your head and the way you feel about food. Then decide on surgery. Your experience with surgery, and the results, may be different than every other person you ask. Either way, there is nothing wrong with continuing to work on losing for now; and orthoscopic is better than having to be cut open fully; though if there are any complications they do go in the old fashion way.
  • cherubcrnp
    cherubcrnp Posts: 717 Member
    I had a lap band done in March 2010. No matter what surgery you have done or if you have no surgery.....it still takes committment, healthy eating and exercise to lose weight. If you are following a 1500 calorie diet, you can't eat high fat foods such as Fast Food, pies, cookies, cakes and candy ...keep under your 1500 calories and lose weight. That is what got us all in trouble in the first place. Surgery is not for everyone....it is not the easy way out like some people think. There are issues that you need to deal with such as vitamin deficiencies, dumping and hair loss. Everyone has to make their own decision. I wish you luck.

    Pam
  • willnorton
    willnorton Posts: 995 Member
    do your research ....

    you have done great......

    you keep doing what you are doing...I find the more weight you lose, the more your get motivated....


    and for God sakes dont listen to people like kiminita and others who try to demotivate you...you dont need people like that in your life..

    keep being positive...

    (listen to Ed Davenport, he knows what he is talking about)

    a friend for life
    Bill
  • GMPOTS
    GMPOTS Posts: 19 Member
    The most important thing to remember is to get the best WLS doctor you find. So many new doctors are doing it now. I had my RNY 22 yrs ago in Florida and My main concern was experience . I had a few complications with mine, I developed hernia at incision line and after 12mos I had a ulcer. But I never regretted my decision. I had lots of negative people when i had mine, I trusted the doctor and guess what, the negative people ended up having the RNY surgery within 5 yrs.
    My family and friends saw my success and they also had the RNY, 10 of them. None had any complications. They are all successful except one of my friends, who never did follow what the doctor told her and regained her weight and more. If I had not had the surgery I am sure I would be 500 pounds by now. The most important thing is to get the weight off. The tool you are given is wonderful and lasts a lifetime. It is up to you to make it work. With all the pitfalls of surgery, No surgery is fun, at end of day the weight is gone. I still cannot eat a big mac that I use to eat 2.
    Good luck on whatever you decide.
  • KendaVSG
    KendaVSG Posts: 147
    Leighbie1987 is also in her twenties, and presumably much healthier to do something like this. I wonder what doctor approved such a young person when they clearly could have done it on their own, given how determined she seems (she's on MFP for one!).


    Kiminita- You have no evidence of "clearly they could have done it on their own, given how determined she seems" You have no right to judge anyone's ability nor determination based upon their decision to utilize the surgery as tool, any more than someone has the right to judge you based upon your picture.

    OP - I suggest talking with a couple different doctors/surgeons regarding the WLS, do your research online as well as with a variety of people who've had the different surgeries. There are pros and cons to all of them. For personal input from others who have had or are thinking about having WLS I recommend Blogger. I would be more than happy to answer any questions you have, from my personal experience.

    http://myquest4alife2love.blogspot.com/
  • sarahwls100609
    sarahwls100609 Posts: 38 Member
    Having bariatric surgery is not an easy fix or an easy way out as some people think. I had my GB two years ago. I weighed 348 and now I weigh 227. Some days are beter than others. I have had a few side efffects due to the surgery but, in the end it saved my life. I was a severe diabetic on
    5 insulin shots a day and taking 2000mg of metformin. I was diagnosed in 2000 and if it weren't for WLS I would either be deceased due to an enlarged liver or on kidney dialysis with very severe complications as I had before my surgery. My AIC levels were 10.7 and now they are 5.5 which is perfect. I primarily drink protein drinks, very soft foods and vegetables that are soft like baby food mostly due to severe GERD. (Gastral Esophageal Reflux Disease) I take Nexium, Tums, Pepcid and Maalox but, it is
    controlled with avoiding spicy, caffeine and acidic foods. I have adjusted. For me, Gastric Bypass gave me an "entire new lease on life" and I am off
    not only all my diabetes meds but, high blood pressure, cholesterol and depression meds. WLS is a personal decision that is not a
    quick fix but, requires dedication and is only a tool. It is indeed a lifestyle change but, one that has drastically changed my life...for the
    better. Good luck to you and God bless. MFP is a wonderful support system for me as well as friends and family. :)
  • sarahwls100609
    sarahwls100609 Posts: 38 Member
    :flowerforyou: :flowerforyou: :flowerforyou: :flowerforyou: Having bariatric surgery is not an easy fix or an easy way out as some people think. I had my GB two years ago. I weighed 348 and now I weigh 227. Some days are beter than others. I have had a few side efffects due to the surgery but, in the end it saved my life. I was a severe diabetic on
    5 insulin shots a day and taking 2000mg of metformin. I was diagnosed in 2000 and if it weren't for WLS I would either be deceased due to an enlarged liver or on kidney dialysis with very severe complications as I had before my surgery. My AIC levels were 10.7 and now they are 5.5 which is perfect. I primarily drink protein drinks, very soft foods and vegetables that are soft like baby food mostly due to severe GERD. (Gastral Esophageal Reflux Disease) I take Nexium, Tums, Pepcid and Maalox but, it is
    controlled with avoiding spicy, caffeine and acidic foods. I have adjusted. For me, Gastric Bypass gave me an "entire new lease on life" and I am off
    not only all my diabetes meds but, high blood pressure, cholesterol and depression meds. WLS is a personal decision that is not a
    quick fix but, requires dedication and is only a tool. It is indeed a lifestyle change but, one that has drastically changed my life...for the
    better. Good luck to you and God bless. MFP is a wonderful support system for me as well as friends and family. :)
  • sarahwls100609
    sarahwls100609 Posts: 38 Member
    Having bariatric surgery is not an easy fix or an easy way out as some people think. I had my GB two years ago. I weighed 348 and now I weigh 227. Some days are beter than others. I have had a few side efffects due to the surgery but, in the end it saved my life. I was a severe diabetic on
    5 insulin shots a day and taking 2000mg of metformin. I was diagnosed in 2000 and if it weren't for WLS I would either be deceased due to an enlarged liver or on kidney dialysis with very severe complications as I had before my surgery. My AIC levels were 10.7 and now they are 5.5 which is perfect. I primarily drink protein drinks, very soft foods and vegetables that are soft like baby food mostly due to severe GERD. (Gastral Esophageal Reflux Disease) I take Nexium, Tums, Pepcid and Maalox but, it is
    controlled with avoiding spicy, caffeine and acidic foods. I have adjusted. For me, Gastric Bypass gave me an "entire new lease on life" and I am off
    not only all my diabetes meds but, high blood pressure, cholesterol and depression meds. WLS is a personal decision that is not a
    quick fix but, requires dedication and is only a tool. It is indeed a lifestyle change but, one that has drastically changed my life...for the
    better. Good luck to you and God bless. MFP is a wonderful support system for me as well as friends and family. :)
  • Thank you for this post I am currently in the process of thinking about having this surgery. I do not have any medical conditions besides being morbidly obese.
  • Pray on it! Continue doing what you're doing and pray, it will come to you!:smile:
  • BriefTales
    BriefTales Posts: 14 Member
    I am post-op Gastric Bypass 20 days. Surgery was a success: however, I crashed about ten hours following recovery. My BP dropped to near 50/35, pulse HR up to 135. Immediately to ICU for 2 days. Spent 10 day in hospital recovering from collasped lungs and pneumonia. I still can't get full liquids down. My doctor has ordered an upper GI because he says I probably have a too narrow of opening and will need to have it 'ballooned". Since weigh-in prior to surgery, 8 weeks ago, I've lost 35 pounds.

    I don't fee so good but my clothes are starting to fit and soon, I'll need to buy new clothes. I'm hopeful the stricture will end the problem of not being able to eat/drink and get protien.

    My advise: don't have bariatric gastric bypass untill ALL else has failed. I realize I'm in the 'buyer's remorse' phase and hope it ends soon. My surgeon says I'll feel much better around 3 - 6 months. I'm hopful. Just know it is no picnic. It takes a lot of strength and support. Don't forget the people you'll rely on post surgery. They play such a major role.

    Good luck!
  • thelovelyLIZ
    thelovelyLIZ Posts: 1,227 Member
    I know some people who have had it done, and it has helped them, but they still have to make an effort. I assume since you've spoken to a doctor they've told you about how you won't be able to eat as much, can't eat certain foods, etc. It's a big choice, but I'm sure you'll make the right one.
  • Smokey19
    Smokey19 Posts: 796 Member
    I am so sorry to hear about your medical problems post surgery. I had a duodenal switch 4 months ago and am glad that I had the surgery. I have had some minor problems, but nothing significant. You'll get past these problems and be glad you had it, too. Good luck in your recovery.
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