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Back Problems - Herniated Discs

Seokie
Posts: 197 Member
Hi guys,
I have 3 herniated discs -I had surgery winter 2010 because it had gotten so bad. I had originally had a slight problem but then I over did some stuff and ended up bedridden.
I'm terrified I'll be in that position again and if I ever have to go for surgery again much last option is a spinal fusion which I want to AVOID.
I started the c25k program today and after stretching I noticed my back was a little sore- and I don't mean muscle sore, I can feel the nerve shooting down my leg again. Now I don't know that I should do.
Do I stop (I don't want to because I spent hours at the gym everyday elliptical/bike/walking/swimming/weights and I'm not losing any weight. I know that to truly help my back I need to lose about 100 lbs - so I really don't want to stop - but as I said, I'm terrified I'm going to hurt myself again and I can't handle that level of pain again.
I also can't afford to see my orthopedic specialist or physical therapist
Oh and I do the physical therapy exercises I was told to but sometimes they hurt my back in the nerve pain way and I know they're not supposed to...
I have 3 herniated discs -I had surgery winter 2010 because it had gotten so bad. I had originally had a slight problem but then I over did some stuff and ended up bedridden.
I'm terrified I'll be in that position again and if I ever have to go for surgery again much last option is a spinal fusion which I want to AVOID.
I started the c25k program today and after stretching I noticed my back was a little sore- and I don't mean muscle sore, I can feel the nerve shooting down my leg again. Now I don't know that I should do.
Do I stop (I don't want to because I spent hours at the gym everyday elliptical/bike/walking/swimming/weights and I'm not losing any weight. I know that to truly help my back I need to lose about 100 lbs - so I really don't want to stop - but as I said, I'm terrified I'm going to hurt myself again and I can't handle that level of pain again.
I also can't afford to see my orthopedic specialist or physical therapist

Oh and I do the physical therapy exercises I was told to but sometimes they hurt my back in the nerve pain way and I know they're not supposed to...
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feel your pain.... i would take it easy for a while . i had failed surgery on mine l4,l5 lamectomy . those were herniated and re-herniated again . i also have scar tissue and stenosis going on as well.. i have been getting steroid injections. which somewhat help... makes it not as bad but my back will NEVER be the same as before the herniation and sciatica. just wanted to let you know your not alone... cant do too much and you want to try but really scared.... yep....0
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That sounds really painful. Running is very high impact, I wouldn't recommend it unless your specialist has cleared you to run. Can you borrow money from somebody (parents?) and see your doctor again? PT exercises should maybe cause a little discomfort, but probably not cause further nerve pain. MFP folks are wonderful...but not necessarily trained doctors or therapists.
I wish you the best. It is possible to recover from spinal fusions and exercise again--my best friend had an emergency spinal fusion years ago, and is able to exercise freely, although she is not a runner. (not because she can't, she just doesn't like it)0 -
Its the thought of reherniation that the scary part. I'm glad the epidurals help you- they didn't do much for me after the first set :-/
As for seeing the specialist- I hate asking anyone for money, I think I'm going to have to see id I can pick up a few more hour at work and schedule an appointment.0 -
I have a complicated spinal issue that made surgery really dangerous. Herniated disc was the only thing I do not have. My profile tells my story. . I can relate to you in not wanting to experience that kind of pain,
I really do not think it is good for you to be running, at this point. It is high impact and you don't need to be doing that with your back history. With disc issues you have to listen to your body. If it tells you something is bad then stop doing it. This is one pain that the ole 'push through it' attitude will do more harm than good.
I would suggest to you what I did for mine. Go to the library and check out as many books on spinal issues as you can find. I remember one yoga book written by a guy who had ....whew, herniated discs and spinal fusion.
Walking on a treadmill really helped me. You can bump up the speed and encline if you are not getting results. I would think the elliptical would really push it as well. I have several friends on here that have lost allot by using it. I would bump up the intensity that you are using these instead of running at this point. Also, after using them go for a swim or be sure to stretch. I know that stupid paper of stretches they give you to use! If I go to. One more doc that tries to hand me that thing I will have a royal temper tantrum! I know that every doc I went to told me something different about the stretches. That is why I suggest the library! You will find yoga spefically for back issues..and it is free :-). Everything I have said is my own opinion based on experience and lots of research. Feel free to friend me :-).
Jac
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Hi Seokie,
I had the same problem and was miserable! I found out about a book called "Pain Free" by Pete Egoscue (pronounced ee-GOS-kew) which contains sets of exercises specific to different areas of the body. I was faithful with doing 25-45 minutes of exercises from the "Backs" section every morning for 4 months, and guess what? Pain is gone. All gone.
I know you're desperate, I was, too. Give it a try. And stick with it for a few months. The exercises do not cause nerve pain like some PT and Yoga exercises do. Some of the moves have you just lie on your back with your leg elevated for several minutes.
The paperback book costs $11.00 new, or you can check it out from the library which is what I did, then liked it so much that I bought myself a copy. Now I'm doing the exercises from the "Maintenance" section. Please consider taking a look at it, read the first 3 chapters in order to understand Egoscue's philosophy of pain and pain relief.
Wishing you the best!
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I've had surgery for herniated discs 4 times & I currently run. However, it's been a good 8 years since my last surgery. In your situation I would strongly advise AGAINST running. If you're spending hours at the gym you're doing it wrong. Period. Overtraining is just as bad as not exercising enough, by educating yourself a little you can make your gym time much more efficient.
First, do you keep a log of your stuff? Are you accurately logging food & activity? If not, log all your food & try to stay at a consistent calorie level for at least 3 weeks. Set up a reasonable workout schedule - 1 full day of rest & no more than 90 min at the gym the other 6 days (less is actually better) - & be consistent with that for the same 3 weeks. Then evaluate your results so you can see what you need to adjust. A deficit that is too large will stall your weight loss, so if that's the case you may need to eat more or exercise less to get your metabolism burning fat like you want it.
Second, stick with stuff like elliptical. It's the next best thing to running & you can modify the resistance to increase the intensity if you want to. Google High Intensity Interval Training (HIIT). I have a 10-minute routine I do on the elliptical every once in a while that leaves me dripping with sweat...best workout ever & the longest 10 minutes of my life!0 -
I have spinal fusion with a bulging disc in the unfused vertebrae AND degenerative disc disease in the unfused discs.
I run. I had to start very slow and I had to move very slowly, but I run. Heck, I can almost do a 10 min mile.
One thing I've learned (and people will probably argue this with me) - when I do warm up stretches? It actually hurts worse. For my back, it prefers if I start out walking, then start jogging and then start running. Any stretches I do? Makes my lower back hurt really bad.
As for the PT exercises - my ortho surgeon told me that for people with spinal fusion - PT generally doesn't do any good. He didn't recommend me going (so I didn't). When I fell and they found the bulging disc I asked about PT and was told that for most people learning what you can/can't do is the key to living pain free and that PT rarely helps with bulging discs.
It was recommended to me to ice it 20 mins on/20 mins off. Heat causes more swelling in the disc.
I understand your fear. I've been living in fear of causing more problems since last January when I fell on the ice. So, yes.. I do understand. For me, not being active actually causes more pain in my spine. On the days when I feel like it just can't handle running (and there are definitely days where it just isn't up to me running) - I try walking or I'll do the incline trainer at the gym.0 -
I have a herniated disc and it is a struggle to find an exercise that is suitable that won't hurt. For me there is very little difference between back muscle soreness and actual back pain, there's a really fine line so I have to be very careful. I only do high impact occasionally when I feel like it and make sure I stretch my back thoroughly after each workout. Most of my workouts involve walking, seated strength training and cycling. If I had access to the gym I would probably use the elliptical, recumbent bike or the treadmill but only for walking. I did jogging for a short time and I was fine until I started to push for a faster time and longer stride, then things went downhill quite quickly.
Be kind to yourself and listen closely to your body - it took me a long time to accept that I can't push myself like other people and I'm not lazy if I don't, its just being responsible.0 -
@ teasdino
Jac,
I do walk and elliptical but I'm not losing any weight and I know that will help more than anything. As for the impact of running - its not when I'm doing it that I'm bothered just the stretching after so I was hoping maybe I'm stretching incorrectly rather than have to give up an exercise...
@jb_2011
Jb,
I'll check it out - thanks
@stubbysticks
I do log everything - I'm a little OCD with it actually, lol - but I'll try cutting back maybe I'm overdoing it, I usually do at least 2 hours of cardio 5-6 days a week and some of those days its more like 3-4 hours so I'll try cutting back and see what happens. I have been doing HIIT though on the stationary bike and elliptical. Maybe I'll have to wait til I lose some weigh to start to try running
@chevy88grl
Maybe the stretching before didn't help me - I so usually stretch before, I'll try just warming up and stretching that way before getting into my routine...0
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