Still in the "obese" category when should weight training be

Kawaii618
Kawaii618 Posts: 21 Member
7 weeks in and lost 15lbs, so far so good but I still have 70lbs to go. I'm wondering if its ok to add weight training to my excercise routine, I'm just doing cardio for now because I read once that if you are obese you should start weight training when you slim down and stick to just cardio until then. Any advice? How often and how to start? TIA

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  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,224 Member
    Of course. Weight training should be an integral part of any weight reduction plan, it protect lean body mass for starters.
  • vmclach
    vmclach Posts: 670 Member
    i started when I was 7 pounds away from being underweight. BAD IDEA. I wish i would have started sooner. Personally, I would start now, but do not make it your main focus! I would focus more on cardio. As you lose more weight, add more strgenth :D
  • kiminita
    kiminita Posts: 150 Member
    I think there are many people that would say to just start incorporating it now. I am definitely one of those. Doing so helps to burn more calories generally, and boosts your metabolism (which is what helps to burn more calories). It also burns fat because maintaining muscle (or building it for that matter) takes a lot of energy for your body. You won't get bulky, if anything you stand to become more lean and speed up your weight loss.
  • MinnieInMaine
    MinnieInMaine Posts: 6,400 Member
    I totally agree! Just know that you may not see a loss initially because, as with any new exercise, your muscles may retain water as they heal...but once your body adjusts, it will release the excess. Make sure you're eating plenty of protein too!
  • Panda86
    Panda86 Posts: 873
    I think there are many people that would say to just start incorporating it now. I am definitely one of those. Doing so helps to burn more calories generally, and boosts your metabolism (which is what helps to burn more calories). It also burns fat because maintaining muscle (or building it for that matter) takes a lot of energy for your body. You won't get bulky, if anything you stand to become more lean and speed up your weight loss.

    I agree. Weight training has done wonders for boosting my metabolism. I do it often, and I am nowhere near "bulky". So yes, I would totally start now, with your doctors ok, of course ;)
  • LivLovLrn
    LivLovLrn Posts: 580 Member
    7 weeks sounds like you have started to get in shape a bit, not sure where you heard you should wait to do weights, but I think if you are feeling up to it, you should do it. I know I didn't start losing size much until I started building more muscle. Start slowly, small weights, few reps and build up to more as you gain strength. You'll love the results!
  • UsedToBeHusky
    UsedToBeHusky Posts: 15,228 Member
    I am obese and I have been weight training though I must admit not religiously. Still, weight training is important even when you are obese because it increases your BMR. Even something as simple as resistance bands will work. I also do calesthenics.
  • I am still in the Obese category myself and I do weight training every other day. I alternate between Cardio and weights. I've never heard anyone say that you should wait till your slim down . Muscle burns more plain and simple. Cardio is great too. I use to be afraid of weight training because I thought I would look like those women who you could barely tell they were women anymore. But I realize that wont happen or at least not by doing the program I am using (P90X Lean). Good Luck to you.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    There is no reason not to weight train from the get-go.
  • Huffdogg
    Huffdogg Posts: 1,934 Member
    Echo everyone above. No reason not to start.
  • lacroyx
    lacroyx Posts: 5,754 Member
    where did you hear that you should not start while obese? I was 460 lbs. when I started. 3x a week. no reason to not start.
  • MzFury
    MzFury Posts: 283 Member
    Yes, you also just need to be prepared to IGNORE your scale for a week or so since your muscles WILL cling to more water and your weight could level or go up slightly - but remembering that your main goal needs to be long-term fat loss, and that muscle weight gain is ALL GOOD for that will help this shift. Focusing instead on measurements, which WILL dip even if the scale doesn't when you start weight training, can help a great deal.

    Ideas for getting started: Best choice, pay for a session with a personal trainer at your local YMCA or other affordable gym. Get them to show you exercises you can do at home, too, using body weight and light hand weights (I do not have a gym membership and do all my strength at home). Ask them to explain some principles of circuit training and try it out. A circuit of quicker resistance will make your muscles sore and also give you a cardio workout at the same time - big metabolism booster.
    In absence of a trainer, I'd definitely look at women's fitness magazines, which publish various routines monthly with notes and pictures for form, and do modifications if necessary, or check out any of the major free fitness sites (including magazine sites, but livestrong and sparkpeople come to mind). Also check out www.collagevideo.com and look at their toning and mixed aero/toning DVD choices - they rank all DVDs by difficulty level so you can tell that quite easily, and you can watch long clips from all the videos and read user reviews. A good instructor on a DVD is priceless.
    Finally, you won't be able to hurt yourself doing the following body-weight moves: pushups modified as needed (either from your knees, or on your feet but with your hands on an elevated surface, from chair to table height, if needed); triceps dips from a chair (slide your butt forward off a bench or chair, holding most of your weight on your hands, but using your feet to assist if needed, and dip down, bending elbows as far as you can stand, and back up, as many times as you can with good form); squats, lunges and one-leg step-ups to a higher step or bench, one-leg squats. You can find examples of all of these moves on youtube or on the Web sites for women's fitness magazines, Livestrong.com, Sparkpeople.com etc.
  • ResilientWoman
    ResilientWoman Posts: 440 Member
    I started strength training at 352 lbs. I've shed 106 lbs since then. Many studies now lead me to believe that "Cardio kills", especially obese people. Have a look at Mark's Daily Apple for ideas on eating real food and optimizing your body fat percentage, 80% of shedding weight is nutrition which you cannot find on this site, although I love tracking here and the friends in my support system from MFP.

    I eat to live well, I eat for healing and health, I walk slowly - no cardio machines! When I feel well enough, I sprint for all I am worth until I burn up all my excuses. I lift heavy and use kettlebells. They give me more results in less time. I was not put on the earth to live in a gym, I want to be outdoors or having fun with friends indoors.

    I eat lots and lots of fat that feeds my brain so I am not depressed any longer. I eat a moderate amount of protein and I avoid grains and gluten as poison.

    Chocolate is my friend.
  • stubbysticks
    stubbysticks Posts: 1,275 Member
    Start YESTERDAY. I started strength training about 2 months into my weight loss & I firmly believe it has everything to do with minimizing the amount of flab I still have & reshaping my body in general. I think it's even more important for those of us trying to lose lots of weight (I'm shooting for >100 lbs myself) since we have more reshaping to do.

    It will help you retain the muscle you have & depending on how aggressively you train, you can even increase your muscle mass, which you want because the more muscle you have, the more calories you burn at rest = faster metabolism!

    Not to mention that feeling strong is AWESOME.
  • Elizabeth_C34
    Elizabeth_C34 Posts: 6,376 Member
    YES! I was considered morbidly obese when I started weight training. It's been wonderful.
  • iKristine
    iKristine Posts: 288 Member
    Weight training should always be incorporated to a weight loss routine.

    Otherwise you could very well only be losing muscle. If your watching what you eat and exercising to include weights no matter how small then you should lose fat.

    Plus if you just lose fat and gain no muscle you run the risk of skinny fat.
  • Congratulations on your weight loss. The best exercise is one that you will do. Overwhelmingly people fail because they stop exercising, not because they have a program that is not optimal. At this point, the most important thing about your exercise regiment is that it keeps you engaged. Adding weight training might help keep it interesting & keep you going. If you do not like it, stay with cardio only.

    If available to you, consider Body Pump classes - Weight lifting with a strong cardio element. I have really enjoyed these and realized significant benefit.
  • kmbrooks15
    kmbrooks15 Posts: 941 Member
    I need to lose about 75 pounds, and I do weight training as part of my routine. I do 30 minutes on the elliptical, mainly to build endurance and heart health. I also do about 25 minutes of strength training (arms and abs every other day, legs and abs every other day). I'm not sure why someone told you to wait until you'd lost weight, because strength training will help you burn more fat when you're not working out.

    You might want to read "New Rules of Lifting for Women". I'm getting a lot of good info from it. I want to start the workouts as soon as my doctor allows it (I'm recovering from gallbladder surgery). I'll continue doing my cardio, because I find it's helping with my endurance (used to not be able to climb a set of stairs without getting winded!), but I want to step up the weight training. Women are not going to bulk up without the use of pharmaceutical help, and weight training actually helps strengthen bones as well as muscle. So go ahead and start! Just consult with a trainer or something so your form is correct. Wrong form can cause injury, so you want to make sure you are doing the exercises the right way.

    Good luck!
  • Start weights now!!!
    I waited till I got smaller and I lost a lot of strength. I wished I had been doing it the whole time
  • HeatherR930
    HeatherR930 Posts: 214 Member
    I just wanted to say that I agree with everyone; start weight training now! I started at the beginning, when I was 3 lbs obese. I am now 3 lbs into the healthy category just 4 months later! It burns a lot of calories & building muscle makes you stronger & healthier! I am a big advocate for strength training! :) Good luck & congrats on your success so far!
  • Rae6503
    Rae6503 Posts: 6,294 Member
    Excellent!! I'm so happy everyone is telling everyone to weight train. It is important to do to preserve muscle mass but this isn't as important for obese people. But it does burn calories in a "low impact" way which is good for people who might have joint issues at higher weights. It's fun. It's good for you in the long run (stronger women live longer). It's empowering. And as an obese person you fall into the category that you might actually be able to build muscle on a deficit unlike most people. And it's fun!
  • TrainingWithTonya
    TrainingWithTonya Posts: 1,741 Member
    Per the American College of Sports Medicine Guidelines on exercise for Overweight and Obese:


    Frequency: >= 5 days per week

    Intensity: Moderate (40-60% of Heart Rate Reserve) and progressing to vigorous (50-75% of Heart Rate Reserve)

    Time: 30 to 60 minutes per day to total a minimum of 150 minutes per week progressing up to 300 minutes per week. Some people may need to progress to 450 minutes per week in order to see weight loss.

    Type: Primarily aerobic activities that involve the large muscle groups. Resistance training exercise should be incorporated as part of a balanced exercise program that is consistent with the recommendations for healthy adults.


    The ACSM recommendations for Resistance Training for Healthy Adults:

    Frequency: 2-3 days per week with at least 48 hours separating exercise training for the same muscle group

    Type: Multijoint exercises affecting more then one muscle group and targeting agonist and antagonist (opposing) muscle groups. Single joint exercise targeting major muscle groups may also be included.

    Repetitions and Sets: Adults should train each muscle group for a total of 2 to 4 sets with 8 to 12 repetitions per set with a rest interval of 2 to 3 minutes between sets to improve muscular fitness. For older adults and very deconditioned persons, one or more sets of 10 to 15 repetitions of moderate intensity (60-70% of 1 Rep Max) resistance are recommended.

    Yep, that's right. The ACSM recommends not only resistance training for the obese population but to do it at 60-70% of 1 rep max. So, go grab your weights! :wink:
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