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  • RonSwanson66
    RonSwanson66 Posts: 1,150 Member
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    Finally understanding how my body works and eating according to that has made a huge difference recently, and hopefully will continue. Eliminating most carbs and sugars has also eliminated most cravings as well. THAT in itself is a huge difference. If anyone is interested , the book that changed my life was "Why We Get Fat, And What To Do About It" by Gary Taubes. You can read reviews on amazon, and check it out of the library if you are interested. Eye-opening miracle of a discovery for me. Good luck everyone!

    I suggest you do a bit more research on Why We Get Fat, since Taubes spouts a ton of non sense in that book and in general

    Here's a good place to start:

    http://carbsanity.blogspot.com/search/label/Gary Taubes Fact Check
  • PlumeriaTattoo
    PlumeriaTattoo Posts: 21 Member
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    Not sure why you think that, but I disagree. I've done a LOT of research, and this works for me when nothing else did. I don't care if anyone tries it or not, and I don't gain anything if you believe me or not. But since I've had such great success with it I thought I'd share. Good luck to you!
  • PlumeriaTattoo
    PlumeriaTattoo Posts: 21 Member
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    Finally understanding how my body works and eating according to that has made a huge difference recently, and hopefully will continue. Eliminating most carbs and sugars has also eliminated most cravings as well. THAT in itself is a huge difference. If anyone is interested , the book that changed my life was "Why We Get Fat, And What To Do About It" by Gary Taubes. You can read reviews on amazon, and check it out of the library if you are interested. Eye-opening miracle of a discovery for me. Good luck everyone!

    I suggest you do a bit more research on Why We Get Fat, since Taubes spouts a ton of non sense in that book and in general

    Here's a good place to start:

    http://carbsanity.blogspot.com/search/label/Gary Taubes Fact Check

    I don't see anything other than some guy's opinion on this blog...am I missing the cited studies he uses when criticizing Taubes' work? Like I said, people are free to make up their own minds based on their own research.
  • Shanna_Inc86
    Shanna_Inc86 Posts: 781 Member
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    I keep an eye on my ratios, however, I don't eat a lot of meat, so its a lil more difficult to get my protein grams up. Also, it makes my carbs a lil higher.

    However, if my carb grams and fat grams are coming from whole fruits, vegetables, nuts, beans and they're good carbs and good fats...why worry a ton about it?

    Personally, I like variety in my day and I have a major sweet tooth...fruit satisfies that for me, so I'm not cutting it out. Certain foods I've cut out b/c they were making me sick or they gross me out. I won't willingly cut out a food group though
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
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    Also, the formula I posted is all you need for muscle retention.

    Wrong:

    "After much toing and froing and research had been done it was eventually found that a protein intake of about 1.5 g/kg of lean body mass (LBM; note that researchers actually used Ideal Body Weight but this is a rough proxy for LBM) was necessary to spare LBM losses in a non-training obese individual consuming low calories.

    This is about double the DRI for protein (at 0.8 g/kg) at maintenance calories. So for an overweight individual at say 200 pounds and 30% body fat (this would give them an LBM of 140 lbs or 63 kg), that would be a protein intake of 95 grams of protein per day. Please note that this value is simply a minimum and dieters may still find that higher protein intakes are beneficial from a hunger blunting effect or what have you (see below)."

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/protein-intake-while-dieting-qa.html


    As for satiety, again, mixing protein, carbs, and fat together in meal changes the way that operates. I personally don't know anyone who eats 100% carbs, or 100% fat, or 100% protein for any one meal, so it's really not applicable to normal, practical living.


    What the hell are you talking about? Please point to where ANYONE suggested that.


    From the aforementioned link:
    "It’s worth noting that more recent research supports further benefits of increased protein intakes while dieting, beyond simple lean body mass maintenance. Protein is the most filling nutrient (meaning that higher protein intakes tend to control hunger better) and studies have found that higher protein intakes can help to stabilize blood sugar levels while dieting which has benefits from both an energy level and appetite standpoint. Protein high in the amino acid leucine (with the dairy proteins whey and casein being the two proteins highest in leucine) seem to have extra benefit in this regard."

    I couldn't find the citations for the actual studies that were talked about there, any idea where I can find the actual research? My number came from the Canadian and US government recommendations. I'm not anti Lyle McDonald, but everything he sells is based on high protein, low carb, so I'd like to read the actual research, rather than his blog.
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
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    I don't see anything other than some guy's opinion on this blog...am I missing the cited studies he uses when criticizing Taubes' work? Like I said, people are free to make up their own minds based on their own research.

    scroll down to "The evidence arguing against the carbohydrate-insulin hypothesis of obesity also continues to speak for itself:"

    http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2011/11/brief-response-to-taubess-food-rewad.html

    also don't you think it's a little silly that a single macronutrient is the cause of obesity?
  • RonSwanson66
    RonSwanson66 Posts: 1,150 Member
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    Finally understanding how my body works and eating according to that has made a huge difference recently, and hopefully will continue. Eliminating most carbs and sugars has also eliminated most cravings as well. THAT in itself is a huge difference. If anyone is interested , the book that changed my life was "Why We Get Fat, And What To Do About It" by Gary Taubes. You can read reviews on amazon, and check it out of the library if you are interested. Eye-opening miracle of a discovery for me. Good luck everyone!

    I suggest you do a bit more research on Why We Get Fat, since Taubes spouts a ton of non sense in that book and in general

    Here's a good place to start:

    http://carbsanity.blogspot.com/search/label/Gary Taubes Fact Check

    I don't see anything other than some guy's opinion on this blog...am I missing the cited studies he uses when criticizing Taubes' work?

    LOL. You didn't even look at the link, did you?

    First of all, CarbSane is a woman. Ya know, from the PICTURE at the top of the page.

    Second, the site is extremely well referenced. She has these things called "links" that link to things called "sources"
  • ksylvan
    ksylvan Posts: 13
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    This is a loaded question here bc so many people have their own opinions!!!

    I have been trying to lose weight for YEARS and now that I am following low carb I am finally losing! Goodbye cravings, mood swings and hunger!!!

    You have to find what works best for you. Some people so really well cutting some carbs and staying around 100. I do best around 50. My carbs come from mostly veggies. Once I am at my goal I will add in fruit and a few more carbs slowly.

    Good luck to you.

    You are basically following Dr. Gundry's "Diet Evolution" guidelines. This is how I eat too. Veggies, meat, nuts, with a tiny sprinkling of fruit. It works for me and my body fat percentage is going down while I maintain my muscle mass, have very high energy levels and no sugar/carb cravings. It's pretty great!
  • RonSwanson66
    RonSwanson66 Posts: 1,150 Member
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    Also, the formula I posted is all you need for muscle retention.

    Wrong:

    "After much toing and froing and research had been done it was eventually found that a protein intake of about 1.5 g/kg of lean body mass (LBM; note that researchers actually used Ideal Body Weight but this is a rough proxy for LBM) was necessary to spare LBM losses in a non-training obese individual consuming low calories.

    This is about double the DRI for protein (at 0.8 g/kg) at maintenance calories. So for an overweight individual at say 200 pounds and 30% body fat (this would give them an LBM of 140 lbs or 63 kg), that would be a protein intake of 95 grams of protein per day. Please note that this value is simply a minimum and dieters may still find that higher protein intakes are beneficial from a hunger blunting effect or what have you (see below)."

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/protein-intake-while-dieting-qa.html


    As for satiety, again, mixing protein, carbs, and fat together in meal changes the way that operates. I personally don't know anyone who eats 100% carbs, or 100% fat, or 100% protein for any one meal, so it's really not applicable to normal, practical living.


    What the hell are you talking about? Please point to where ANYONE suggested that.


    From the aforementioned link:
    "It’s worth noting that more recent research supports further benefits of increased protein intakes while dieting, beyond simple lean body mass maintenance. Protein is the most filling nutrient (meaning that higher protein intakes tend to control hunger better) and studies have found that higher protein intakes can help to stabilize blood sugar levels while dieting which has benefits from both an energy level and appetite standpoint. Protein high in the amino acid leucine (with the dairy proteins whey and casein being the two proteins highest in leucine) seem to have extra benefit in this regard."

    I couldn't find the citations for the actual studies that were talked about there, any idea where I can find the actual research? My number came from the Canadian and US government recommendations. I'm not anti Lyle McDonald, but everything he sells is based on high protein, low carb, so I'd like to read the actual research, rather than his blog.

    Full-text
    http://www.ajcn.org/content/78/1/31.full


    And the bolded statement is just plain false. GFD, UD2.0, and his book on Nutrition for Athletes are not low-carb. (Nor are the vast majority of his articles).
  • PlumeriaTattoo
    PlumeriaTattoo Posts: 21 Member
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    LMAO! Wow.... Forget I even mentioned the Taubes book, which appears to get some people's panties in a bunch. MY experiences with what *I* ate and what *MY* results are are real. I posted it to HELP people, not to have someone contradict my experiences because they don't agree with the findings of a book (actually quite a number of books talk about the same basic ideas.) I don't know if Taubes' theories are all correct or not, I just know that I read the book, I applied what he said, and it sure did work for me. But it's much more fun to argue, isn't it? I'm off to enjoy the day and go for a run. Good luck to everyone who is trying to lose weight and get healthy!

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