Pros/Cons of Eating Exercise Calories?

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  • wolfchild59
    wolfchild59 Posts: 2,608 Member
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    Think of it this way...let's say every day you drive your car (your body) 100 kms (BMR). In order to drive those 100 kms you need exactly 20 litres of gas (calories). Now let's say one day you decide to drive 150 kms instead (exercise)...that 20 litres of fuel will not be enough and you will run out of gas before you reach your destination. There's no argument here that you'd need to add a bit more fuel than usual in order for your car drive 50 kms further. It's that simple.

    And to add to that...let's say you refuse to give in, and decide you'll only put 20 litres in your car, no matter how far you drive it. You will run out of gas every day. Think of what that would do to your car mechanically! It would be junked in no time. Your body is no different. If you don't give it enough fuel, it WILL catch up with you.

    But the problem with this example is that it's about a car, with few variables other than traffic and road conditions. Whereas a human body has a ton of other variables that effects how it burns or needs calories. And, while every car of the same make and model is going to have the same general requirements, people are very, very different from person to person and everyone needs to find what works best for them.

    I have the advantage of having a BodyMedia Fit that I wear so I can see and verfiy my info on a day to day, or even during the day basis. And if I want to keep the deficit that I am currently looking for, then I can't eat my exercise calories, and I can see that clearly in my numeric output.

    I tried for about four months to eat back exercise calories because everyone here swore that it was the be-all, end-all of weight loss. And I've spent the last four months trying to re-lose the weight that I gained during that period of time. After one other failed advice following (weekly cheat days) kept me stalled at the same weight, I finally did all the calculations that I mentioned in my previous post. And since doing that, stopping the planned weekly cheat day and not eating my exercise calories, I've finally lost almost all of that weight I put on, and am still losing.

    Everyone also has to remember that no matter how MFP is set up to work, it's still a huge, blanket, generalization of data and information. Two women that are both 5'5" and 185 pounds with goal weights of 135lbs and the goal to lose ata rate of 1lb/week will put in those five pieces of data, and get the same exact info spit back out at them by MFP. Even assuming the two work out together, on the same exact schedule, there is very, very little likelihood that both of those women's bodies function in exactly the same way.

    One may be successful and hit their goal on schedule, maybe the other one will lose for a bit and then plateau. Or one will lose at a higher rate than planned and plateau while another loses at a lower rate than planned but loses a higher amount of body fat and gets more slender than the other. There's really just no way to predict how the human body is going to work and MFP is certainly not a 100% foolproof plan for every person that uses it. That's why I always try to stress to people to not just take anything as black and white and to take the time to see what works for them, with MFP as a starting point/basic guideline only.
  • MaraDiaz
    MaraDiaz Posts: 4,604 Member
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    Doing it the way I'm doing it keeps me honest. Estimating my activity level and just setting myself some calories wouldn't work for me. It would be way too easy to slack off. This way is working for me, so I'm very happy with it. Maybe there are other ways for other people, though.
  • taso42
    taso42 Posts: 8,980 Member
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    The BMF really simplifies things. With it the whole exercise calorie thing becomes irrelevant. You just eat less calories than the device says you burned. It's a different way if arriving at the same number.

    So from the post above, i take it that mfp was prescribing too many calories for you? This is more an issue of a bad starting number rather than an issue of whether or not to eat exercise calories. In your case not eating them is just compensating for error in the net target mfp gave you.

    I had the similar but opposite issue way back, where mfp's target for me was way too low so i manually bumped it up.

    Posting from phone. Please pardon typos
  • wolfchild59
    wolfchild59 Posts: 2,608 Member
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    MFP had me at 1200 and then I'd eat back 80-90% of my exercise calories.

    Doing that showed on my BMF as typically a 300-ish deficit, which, since (at the time) I was so close to my goal, I was fine with based on everything I'd read about getting down to those last 10 pounds.

    But I think the problem with keeping that low of a deficit on the BMF is that you have to allow for the fact that, even logging everything I eat, there's still a margin of error that the actual calories are different than what was actually consumed. As well as the 10% possible margin of error with the BMF.

    After I did all the calculations and got my average BMI, TDEE w/typical work out schedule and subtracted my deficit from that, it was higher than the 1200 calories MFP had me set at. And that amount matched up with what BMF showed me as what I should eat daily to meet my deficit. So once I started just eating those calories while doing my regular work outs, I stay at my desired deficit on BMF and have been losing weight.

    The only time I eat back parts of my exercise calories is if I'm showing a higher expected burn for the day and I dip into those to make sure to stay closer to my desired deficit as per the BMF. I'm not saying that MFP doesn't work for some folks, or even a decent number of folks, but it's settings didn't work for me as far as the whole eat your exercise calories thing goes, so it's something to look into if MFP doesn't seem to working. :)
  • LorinaLynn
    LorinaLynn Posts: 13,247 Member
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    After I did all the calculations and got my average BMI, TDEE w/typical work out schedule and subtracted my deficit from that, it was higher than the 1200 calories MFP had me set at. And that amount matched up with what BMF showed me as what I should eat daily to meet my deficit. So once I started just eating those calories while doing my regular work outs, I stay at my desired deficit on BMF and have been losing weight.

    So what you're saying is that the MFP calculations of 1200+exercise wasn't enough calories, rather than too many calories? Could that be a case of not having the right activity level selected, ie sedentary instead of lightly active?
  • jenniferhiggins
    jenniferhiggins Posts: 116 Member
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    I am soo confused. if someone can please help me out then i would greatly appreciate it.

    I use a hrm monitor when i workout.

    i would like to lose 1 pound a day. i have my activity level set for sedentary. then i just add my exercise calories in. my sedentary is set at 1310.

    how do you determine how many calories yiou should burn on the treadmill a day.

    what i have been doing is if i eat more thatn 1310 which i do then i take that number and subtracting it from 1310.

    ex: 1800 cals eaten for the day. so then i take 1800-1310=490. so i make sure that i am burning 490 cals at the gym. is this the right way to do it.
  • engineman312
    engineman312 Posts: 3,450 Member
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    exercise calories taste better. it is a proven fact.
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
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    I am soo confused. if someone can please help me out then i would greatly appreciate it.

    I use a hrm monitor when i workout.

    i would like to lose 1 pound a day. i have my activity level set for sedentary. then i just add my exercise calories in. my sedentary is set at 1310.

    how do you determine how many calories yiou should burn on the treadmill a day.

    what i have been doing is if i eat more thatn 1310 which i do then i take that number and subtracting it from 1310.

    ex: 1800 cals eaten for the day. so then i take 1800-1310=490. so i make sure that i am burning 490 cals at the gym. is this the right way to do it.

    That's one way to do it. Most people eat what they burn, rather than burn what they eat, but both ways get you to the same place.
  • jenniferhiggins
    jenniferhiggins Posts: 116 Member
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    tigersword: thanks for the response. i really appreciate it.
  • lynn9
    lynn9 Posts: 19 Member
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    @glacierberry - Thanks for the link! The information really hit home for me.
  • jamesfit99
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    It's often not as simple as our calculator's would make it.

    For example, if you're eating what you calculate to be your workout calories and are still losing weight per reasonable goals, then it's working. On the other hand, if you find you're not losing enough weight, than maybe that 1000 calorie workout really isn't burning 1000 calories, regardless of what it says on paper!

    On the other hand, if you're not eating your workout calories and losing weight too fast, then that's telling you that you need to eat more.