Group with most cult like following?

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  • tangal88
    tangal88 Posts: 689
    I want to have a cult like following.:smokin:

    it's honestly not that fun.

    HA! - excellent comeback
  • ashleighjoy2007
    ashleighjoy2007 Posts: 150 Member
    #1 rule of a cult....defend the cult

    #1 Rule pf making fun of a group, know the definition of the words you're using =]
  • Silverkittycat
    Silverkittycat Posts: 1,997 Member
    #1 rule of a cult....defend the cult

    Offend the cult. Let them defend themselves. :bigsmile:
  • chrisdavey
    chrisdavey Posts: 9,834 Member
    Beachbody for sure. You could just about include all the dvd workouts though. Jillian Michaels etc. Same, same...but different.
  • live4turns
    live4turns Posts: 314 Member
    B - Beachbody.

    The other groups aren't set up like a pyramid scheme.

    made me laugh~!
  • ashleighjoy2007
    ashleighjoy2007 Posts: 150 Member
    I agree with chrisdavey on the dvd workouts being the same thing.

    Personally my response to the person saying all Beachbody dvds are the same is that a florida orange, a red delicious apple and grapes are all the same thing because they are all fruits.
  • Lyadeia
    Lyadeia Posts: 4,603 Member
    I'd say the HCG people for sure. At least all of the groups you mentioned are effective for most of the people who choose to follow their methodology.

    I agree with this. The original choices aren't fad diets.

    I also you think you should have said "beachbody COACHES" instead of just "beachbody." Keep in mind that there are tons of people that just use the exercise programs, not because they have this weird cult following to Shakeology, but because they like the in-home exercise DVDs as opposed to going to the gym. There are lots of people who have beachbody DVDs that also do things like 30DS or Zumba which are not beachbody programs. COACHES, on the otherhand, can be like a cult...won't get into it though, cause I think that's what you meant in the first place. I just wanted to make the distinction. :flowerforyou:
  • LadyOfOceanBreeze
    LadyOfOceanBreeze Posts: 762 Member
    #1 rule of a cult....defend the cult

    :heart: this
  • Lyadeia
    Lyadeia Posts: 4,603 Member
    Haha gotta say, I'm a Beachbody coach and it's nowhere near a cult.

    There are extremists in any activity/sport/religion etc.

    LOL.

    I am a closet Beachbody coach and it is very much like a cult!!!

    I am shunned from the cult including my upline sponsor because I REFUSE to ever say that a Shakeology Cleanse is a good thing...that there aren't any other products that are worth buying instead of Shake-O, or that you don't ever need to go to a gym, you just need P90X or Turbo Fire...

    I became a coach years ago to simply help other people who wanted to do the workouts...but WOW has it ever changed into :line my pockets and sell everyone crap they don't need." I am still a coach to support people who have already bought the programs and need help with them. I 100% refuse to ever recruit, sell, etc. or any of that BS because of the cult-like following Carl Daikeler has.

    But, like I said previously, Beachbody itself is NOT a cult...just the coaching part is. That's coming from 4 years experience with "coaching."
  • Lyadeia
    Lyadeia Posts: 4,603 Member
    B) the only one (as far as I know) that is motivated by making money
    I like beachbody products, but I think the idea that you can just sign up to be a "coach" is absolutely silly. I'll buy and recommend their workouts, but I would never sign up as a coach and try to make money off of it.

    It is silly, isn't it? I feel silly for doing it honestly. It makes the fact that I have grad school degrees in biology as well as my CPT certification and group ex. certs. seem pointless when all these other coaches have no training whatsoever in health/fitness. Back in the day when coaching was brand new, it wasn't anything like it is now. The original coaches actually had knowledge and experience...and we helped people using those things even if it meant sending them somewhere other than Beachbody. It's a freakin' joke now.
  • Lyadeia
    Lyadeia Posts: 4,603 Member
    You forgot to mention ViSalus. By far the scariest people I have had contact with.

    Do you know why they are so scary?

    Go to YouTube and look up the tons of videos on failed Beachbody coaches turning to Visalis to make some money. :laugh:
  • Lyadeia
    Lyadeia Posts: 4,603 Member
    I'm going to go all scientific and sociology on you here...

    Cultlike characteristics - American Family Foundation (14 Characteristics)

    The group is focused on a living leader to whom members seem to display excessively zealous, unquestioning commitment.

    The group is preoccupied with bringing in new members.

    The group is preoccupied with making money.

    Questioning, doubt, and dissent are discouraged or even punished.

    Mind-numbing techniques (such as meditation, chanting, speaking in tongues, denunciation sessions, debilitating work routines) are used to suppress doubts about the group and its leader(s).

    The leadership dictates sometimes in great detail how members should think, act, and feel (for example: members must get permission from leaders to date, change jobs, get married; leaders may prescribe what types of clothes to wear, where to live, how to discipline children, and so forth).

    The group is elitist, claiming a special, exalted status for itself, its leader(s), and members (for example: the leader is considered the Messiah or an avatar; the group and/or the leader has a special mission to save humanity).

    The group has a polarized us-versus-them mentality, which causes conflict with the wider society.

    The group's leader is not accountable to any authorities (as are, for example, military commanders and ministers, priests, monks, and rabbis of mainstream denominations).

    The group teaches or implies that its supposedly exalted ends justify means that members would have considered unethical before joining the group (for example: collecting money for bogus charities).

    The leadership induces guilt feelings in members in order to control them.

    Members' subservience to the group causes them to cut ties with family and friends, and to give up personal goals and activities that were of interest before joining the group.

    Members are expected to devote inordinate amounts of time to the group.

    Members are encouraged or required to live and/or socialize only with other group members.

    OMG, with the exception of the Messiah thing, that perfectly describes Beachbody coaching!!!!!!!!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
  • Carl01
    Carl01 Posts: 9,307 Member
    Holy crap,this cult stuff is hard. :noway:


    Maybe I will just shoot for a commune. :smokin:
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