Steroids

addisondisease
addisondisease Posts: 664 Member
edited October 2024 in Fitness and Exercise
What is everyone's general attitude on steroids and why, I am sure a lot of you are ignorant on the subject so no dumb posts please.

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  • Meggles63
    Meggles63 Posts: 916 Member
    Um, just say no?!
  • koosdel
    koosdel Posts: 3,317 Member
    They're expensive, and I feel uncomfortable showering in prison.

    Edited because hooked on phonics doesn't always work.
  • Umpire57
    Umpire57 Posts: 389 Member
    People have a general bad feeling about them because they are abused by athletes.

    I take a steroid shot at my doctor's office yearly to bi-yearly to assist in the pain caused by lack of cartilage in my knee.

    Used under a doctor's supervision and not abused they can be a wonderful thing.
  • addisondisease
    addisondisease Posts: 664 Member
    Um, just say no?!

    lol but why?
  • addisondisease
    addisondisease Posts: 664 Member
    People have a general bad feeling about them because they are abused by athletes.

    I take a steroid shot at my doctor's office yearly to bi-yearly to assist in the pain caused by lack of cartilage in my knee.

    Used under a doctor's supervision and not abused they can be a wonderful thing.

    Is it a cortical steroid or something like Deca?
  • Umpire57
    Umpire57 Posts: 389 Member
    I am on a daily NSAID and then at least once a year but no more than at least 6 months apart (Doctor limitation) my knee starts bothering me real bad (I am a softball official so it usually happens in season with all the squatting) and I go to my doctor and he gives me a steroid shot. To be honest, I do not know which one.
  • Take them or not.. you still have to put hard work in.

    Not saying take steroids... just saying ppl who do take it work hard
  • addisondisease
    addisondisease Posts: 664 Member
    I wish more doctors were better educated with anabolics, i talked to my family doctor and he just acted like i was asking him to sell me [illegal] drugs. Sure cosmetic surgery is totally fine, but if i want to start supplementing my work outs I'm a druggie.
  • koosdel
    koosdel Posts: 3,317 Member
    Um, just say no?!

    lol but why?

    It's mostly the prison thing. Unless you're into that kinda stuff.

    Seriously though, if done 'right' your balls might not fall off.. you could go to prison. And you're no where near ready.. and you could go to prison. You're still to young, no where near your genetic max.. and you could go to prison. Your current connectivie tissue probably wouldn't withstand the stresses.. and you could go to prison. They're insanely expensive, so are lawyers.

    But hey, ya know.. if you wanna get nekkid with 'Bubba' go for it.
  • Dave198lbs
    Dave198lbs Posts: 8,810 Member
    in relation to addison's?
  • addisondisease
    addisondisease Posts: 664 Member
    ^ I know my question was broad but i kind of want to keep it that way so that more people are able to comment.
  • addisondisease
    addisondisease Posts: 664 Member
    in relation to addison's?

    No not in relation to addison's disease.
  • dusty_712001
    dusty_712001 Posts: 172 Member
    I know you will get a lot of people who will give the snap answer of don't do it, it's bad for your health, your balls will wither, ect...but used with a little practicality, the risk is small. The main thing is to work from good information. Steroids have taken a big hit from people that abuse them, thinking that if 1 pill is great then 10 is better.
  • 1Ciarrah
    1Ciarrah Posts: 55 Member
    Depends on what type of steroids you are taking. There is a difference in the kind that your doctor perscribes for sickness/ailements and the type that would be used for muscles/bulk. They are sooooo not the same. I take steroids 1-2 times a year (very high dose) for my MS and they are not fun. A person would not volunteer for them unless they really do help. In my case they help me to walk, see, or any other MS thing I am going thru at the time. So being sick/uncomfortable for a couple of weeks is worth it. And they do have some bad side affects that last a long time. I would so advise not useing steroids for muscle/bulking. Not a good idea.

    Good Luck!!
  • addisondisease
    addisondisease Posts: 664 Member
    I know you will get a lot of people who will give the snap answer of don't do it, it's bad for your health, your balls will wither, ect...but used with a little practicality, the risk is small. The main thing is to work from good information. Steroids have taken a big hit from people that abuse them, thinking that if 1 pill is great then 10 is better.

    Awesome response, thank you.

    OT: What rating of climbs do you do indoor?
  • addisondisease
    addisondisease Posts: 664 Member
    Depends on what type of steroids you are taking. There is a difference in the kind that your doctor perscribes for sickness/ailements and the type that would be used for muscles/bulk. They are sooooo not the same. I take steroids 1-2 times a year (very high dose) for my MS and they are not fun. A person would not volunteer for them unless they really do help. In my case they help me to walk, see, or any other MS thing I am going thru at the time. So being sick/uncomfortable for a couple of weeks is worth it. And they do have some bad side affects that last a long time. I would so advise not useing steroids for muscle/bulking. Not a good idea.

    Good Luck!!

    You haven't told my why you don't advise using steroids for muscle/bulking, you stated soreness, but injection site soreness surely isn't as bad as the DOMS after speed front squats and natural GHRs.
  • The Main Reason Is Because Steriods Effect Directly Your Kidneys , Liver And Heart Functions--In Other Words These Organs Can Fail If They Are Taken More Than 6 Weeks At A Time And Not Under Supervision By A Doctor. I Have Had Experience With Them For Weightlifting Competition. However, For No More Than 6 Weeks At A Time. That Was About 20 Yrs Ago--And I Quickly Started Learning More About The Effects As The Years Went By---It Is A Synthetic Hormone That Actually Can Leave Your Actual Natural Hormones In Limbo And Not Functioning--If You Abuse Them---They Are Dangerous At The Least. Doctors Prescribe Them For Older People To Increase Strength And More Stamina And These People Are In Dire Need Of A Physical Boost!! They Are Given To People That Have Been In Serious Accidents And Need A Boost To Grow And Get Stronger For A Prescribed Period Of Time

    I AM AN EX RANGER AND KNOW OF WHAT I SPEAK "FIDO"
  • i'm gonna assume you are talking about anabolic steroids not corticosteroids or naturally occurring steroids....gosh the reasons not to take anabolic steroids are so numerous its hard to know where to start.....umm..liver damage? left sided ventricular damage? high-blood pressure (and all the associated health risks of that)? but if those aren't enough (sure there are more, that was all i could think of off top of head) then being a guy that whole testicular atrophy thing and gynecomastia (man-boobs dude, big ol' man-boobs) might be something you might not care for.
    oh and prison, can't forget that, lol. not cause they are illegal but from the 'roid rage when you smash that poor guy in gym w/ a weight on his head and kill him. long prison time.
  • The Main Reason Is Because Steriods Effect Directly Your Kidneys , Liver And Heart Functions--In Other Words These Organs Can Fail If They Are Taken More Than 6 Weeks At A Time And Not Under Supervision By A Doctor. I Have Had Experience With Them For Weightlifting Competition. However, For No More Than 6 Weeks At A Time. That Was About 20 Yrs Ago--And I Quickly Started Learning More About The Effects As The Years Went By---It Is A Synthetic Hormone That Actually Can Leave Your Actual Natural Hormones In Limbo And Not Functioning--If You Abuse Them---They Are Dangerous At The Least. Doctors Prescribe Them For Older People To Increase Strength And More Stamina And These People Are In Dire Need Of A Physical Boost!! They Are Given To People That Have Been In Serious Accidents And Need A Boost To Grow And Get Stronger For A Prescribed Period Of Time

    I AM AN EX RANGER AND KNOW OF WHAT I SPEAK "FIDO"
  • addisondisease
    addisondisease Posts: 664 Member
    The Main Reason Is Because Steriods Effect Directly Your Kidneys , Liver And Heart Functions--In Other Words These Organs Can Fail If They Are Taken More Than 6 Weeks At A Time And Not Under Supervision By A Doctor. I Have Had Experience With Them For Weightlifting Competition. However, For No More Than 6 Weeks At A Time. That Was About 20 Yrs Ago--And I Quickly Started Learning More About The Effects As The Years Went By---It Is A Synthetic Hormone That Actually Can Leave Your Actual Natural Hormones In Limbo And Not Functioning--If You Abuse Them---They Are Dangerous At The Least. Doctors Prescribe Them For Older People To Increase Strength And More Stamina And These People Are In Dire Need Of A Physical Boost!! They Are Given To People That Have Been In Serious Accidents And Need A Boost To Grow And Get Stronger For A Prescribed Period Of Time

    I AM AN EX RANGER AND KNOW OF WHAT I SPEAK "FIDO"

    Why Is Every Single Word Capitalized Are You Doing That On Purpose? I love the 6 week rule, such bro-science. How is it that so many people around the world are able to take steroids for 8 week, 14 week, even 28 week cycles and still have healthy organs? Most cycles that stay in the 800mg/wk range take at least a week to build up in the system, do you count that week?
  • addisondisease
    addisondisease Posts: 664 Member
    i'm gonna assume you are talking about anabolic steroids not corticosteroids or naturally occurring steroids....gosh the reasons not to take anabolic steroids are so numerous its hard to know where to start.....umm..liver damage? left sided ventricular damage? high-blood pressure (and all the associated health risks of that)? but if those aren't enough (sure there are more, that was all i could think of off top of head) then being a guy that whole testicular atrophy thing and gynecomastia (man-boobs dude, big ol' man-boobs) might be something you might not care for.
    oh and prison, can't forget that, lol. not cause they are illegal but from the 'roid rage when you smash that poor guy in gym w/ a weight on his head and kill him. long prison time.

    1. Liver damage - generally only a concern with oral steroids, a live55 solves this problem
    2. Heart Damage - only with those who are already predisposed, and abusers. don't abuse and know your family history.
    3. High-blood pressure - learn proper breathing techniques, and PCT
    4. test atrophy - not all steroids do this
    5. gyno - not all steroids do this, add an anti-est to cycle and you are fine.
    6. roid rage - not as common as people are led to believe, extremely uncommon if the user is a calm person.
  • arewethereyet
    arewethereyet Posts: 18,702 Member
    Just a reminder. I know we are not there yet, but I can see it going this way. Please-no promotion of illegal or unsafe products or procedures. Thank You,

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  • WHY DID I CAPITALIZE MY MESSAGE ?--- MAYBE I MADE A MISTAKE OR MAYBE I DID IT ON PURPOSE--SO WHAT. IS THAT A PROBLEM?-THAT BASICALLY IS THE LEAST OF YOUR WORRIES "CAPICE". OR MAYBE BEACAUSE I AM THE REAL THING--YOU KNOW LIKE A REAL TRUE TO LIFE BADDASS.

    "FIDO"
  • calliope_music
    calliope_music Posts: 1,242 Member
    i had prednisone once for a week (not an anabolic steroid i know) and it made me feel like death. i am sure anabolic steroids may have different side effects, but that one experience pretty much confirmed the fact that i'll never drop 'roids.
  • maews
    maews Posts: 39
    i saw on t.v where (more than one man) a man got addicted to steroids and was in to muscle building, eventually, they did a toll on him,he became very abusive to his family and did end up in prison and,or murdered his wife-true story
  • maews
    maews Posts: 39
    the kind your talking about,they ususally don't like to keep you on them more than a week,unless you have lung disease
  • EuroDriver12
    EuroDriver12 Posts: 805 Member
    I have never done steroids but i have read alot of info about them, many of my close friends have taken them and i will most likley do them in about 3-5 years once my body hits the "natural plateau"

    about 99% of ppl that talk crap about steroids have never done them, dont know a single thing about them, only base their oppinion on myths...

    steroid rage - myth... no such thing its just people becoming cocky from the new muscle thinking their are strong blokes!
    shrunken balls - only on cycle as soon as ur done they go back to normal
    no work required for muscle - when on a cycle you need to eat 2-3x more and train 2-3x harder than you would naturally and even so ur gains are expected to be about 15-25lbs depending of what you are taking, also you will loose some once ur done ur cycle "water weight".
    Makes your muscle watery - most that are on cycle take things like nolva or arimidex to keep water weight down.
    Infections and muscle shape - people that get infections are uneducated and didnt do proper reasarch and steps and most videos you see of "steroidal infections" or muscle "freaks" or deforemed muscles is due to use of SYNTHOL! go to youtube and type in "synthol man" and you will see what im talking about
    could go on n on..

    you look at bodybuilders now days vs in the past... Arnolds qoute "in our days we did use steroids but it was 1 of 100th of what bodybuilders use now days. Many bodybuilders now days dont even come off the cycle and run their steroids year around as they competitions one after another... thats what kills people and gives steroids a bad name" its just like any other drug you can take 1 pill of tylonol n get rid of your headace.. you can take 100 tylonol n kill urself... same thing with roids.. u can do your proper mgs or you can abuse and kill urself..

    So as my final oppinion if its your first 1-3 years training there is no reason for you to take steroids as u dont have the muscle maturity to hold on to ur gains and what you are gaining now still "newbie gains" are pretty much same thing as being on roids... i have 2 guys that train with me n we all train hard, eat proper, natural, and we are getting stretch marks.. if either of us would do roids now we would look like just one big nasty red stretch mark lol on other hand if you have been training for 4-5 years, hit your natural plateau and need motivation to keep going; and you did you research and are safe about it why not do it?!
  • I do not have a pro or anti steroid opinion.

    I imagine you already know a lot more about steroids than i do, which isn't much. Based on what I read in the past, it sounded like they 1) had to be injected so to reduce additional risks of taking them orally, 2) you had to take additional drugs after doing a cycle, 3) put your joints & ligaments are a higher level of risk since they aren't used to strength you produce on streroids, and 4) you may seriously compromise your body's ability to produce its own testosterone over the long term & end up with '*****-tits' and a not good functioning pepe.

    Am I wrong or not? I'd be interested in hearing your answer.

    I know greatly improving your physique with much less work is appealing, and i imagine you'd get in better shape than ever possible is the appeal.
  • EuroDriver12
    EuroDriver12 Posts: 805 Member
    I do not have a pro or anti steroid opinion.

    I imagine you already know a lot more about steroids than i do, which isn't much. Based on what I read in the past, it sounded like they 1) had to be injected so to reduce additional risks of taking them orally, 2) you had to take additional drugs after doing a cycle, 3) put your joints & ligaments are a higher level of risk since they aren't used to strength you produce on streroids, and 4) you may seriously compromise your body's ability to produce its own testosterone over the long term & end up with '*****-tits' and a not good functioning pepe.

    Am I wrong or not? I'd be interested in hearing your answer.

    I know greatly improving your physique with much less work is appealing, and i imagine you'd get in better shape than ever possible is the appeal.

    this is where shows that research hasnt been done enough :)

    1.taking orally depends on what u are taking.. if Anavar - safest steroid possible! u can run for 6 months straight with no sides and it doesnt aromitize.. m1t's on other hand.. are a little harsher.. but what are you comparing these facts too? one would go out and drink every weekend and party.. while the other will take a steroid and workout instead of drinking.. same effect on the liver pretty much..

    2. bit*ch tits aka gyno and natural test production.. that is why you have to do your research you need to run a PCT like clomid n nolva and have other estrogen suppresors available if nolva doesnt do the trick.

    3. improving physic with less work... thats false... like i said you need to train harder and eat ALOT more! when you are on ur cycle ur life is the GYM you sleep, eat,****,workout. thats it! you dont have time for anything else.. ur workouts go from 1hour to 1.5-2hrs plus cardio to keep vascular system strong, water weight down, and have ur body get more used to holding on to new weight
  • addisondisease
    addisondisease Posts: 664 Member
    Just a reminder. I know we are not there yet, but I can see it going this way. Please-no promotion of illegal or unsafe products or procedures. Thank You,

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    a) Posts intended to promote potentially unsafe or controversial weight loss products or procedures, including non-medically prescribed supplements or MLM products will be removed without warning.
    b) No pro-anorexia or pro-bulimia posts, groups, profile names, or profile bylines. Photos intended to promote or glamorize extreme thinness are also not permitted.

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    Sorry mod, i wasn't necessarily telling people to go get illegal steroids, they muscle building kind are NOT illegal though, and under the correct doses can be an amazing tool for muscle build.
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