Help! When do you increase your calorie intake?

annaliza
annaliza Posts: 809
edited September 19 in Health and Weight Loss
Good Morning Everyone!

I'm 5'4" and weigh 187, 41 yrs old, female. I workout 6 days a weeks - usually 6 days strength/flexibility (my fitness coach) and 4 days running (mostly hills), on the weekends I walk with the kids. I average burning about 600 cals in my workouts. I eat healthy and am trying to eat clean. Mostly fruits and veggies, boneless chicken breast, fish, oatmeal, nuts, etc. I drink coffee in the morning, but I've been trying to switch to tea.

I've been exercising since 4-5-09, started mfp and seriously watching my food intake since 4-20-09. I have lost only 5 pds - which is pretty good (and I've trimmed down, too), I think, but I'm curious about my calories intake to calories burned - thanks to my HRM.

I wore it the other day. I burned 3000 cals during my normal working day. That day I exercised and burned 700 cals (was one of my running days). I'm guessing that my sleep cals ran about 600 cals. So, total cals burned = 4300 (3000+700+600). That day I ate 2000 cals (MFP's 1200 + 700 ex cals = 1900 - I ate an extra 100 cals that day in a protien shake).

So, that means that I have a deficit of 2300? Am I correct in thinking like that or am I missing something here? If that's the case, then how did MFP get 1200 cals for me? Should I be increasing my caloric intake? Or stay the same since it seems to be working, if not slowly (it's disheartening to see some people here are about the same weight and height losing a lot more than me)?

I initially set up my account as sendetary lifestyle. I tried to increase it to slightly active with no change ...so should I be staying in the 1200 cal range? I have two kids in diapers and work where there are lots of stairs (no elevator), and live in the mountains with lots of hills (I walk to my car, have a long driveway, etc).

Thanks for reading my post!

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  • annaliza
    annaliza Posts: 809
    Good Morning Everyone!

    I'm 5'4" and weigh 187, 41 yrs old, female. I workout 6 days a weeks - usually 6 days strength/flexibility (my fitness coach) and 4 days running (mostly hills), on the weekends I walk with the kids. I average burning about 600 cals in my workouts. I eat healthy and am trying to eat clean. Mostly fruits and veggies, boneless chicken breast, fish, oatmeal, nuts, etc. I drink coffee in the morning, but I've been trying to switch to tea.

    I've been exercising since 4-5-09, started mfp and seriously watching my food intake since 4-20-09. I have lost only 5 pds - which is pretty good (and I've trimmed down, too), I think, but I'm curious about my calories intake to calories burned - thanks to my HRM.

    I wore it the other day. I burned 3000 cals during my normal working day. That day I exercised and burned 700 cals (was one of my running days). I'm guessing that my sleep cals ran about 600 cals. So, total cals burned = 4300 (3000+700+600). That day I ate 2000 cals (MFP's 1200 + 700 ex cals = 1900 - I ate an extra 100 cals that day in a protien shake).

    So, that means that I have a deficit of 2300? Am I correct in thinking like that or am I missing something here? If that's the case, then how did MFP get 1200 cals for me? Should I be increasing my caloric intake? Or stay the same since it seems to be working, if not slowly (it's disheartening to see some people here are about the same weight and height losing a lot more than me)?

    I initially set up my account as sendetary lifestyle. I tried to increase it to slightly active with no change ...so should I be staying in the 1200 cal range? I have two kids in diapers and work where there are lots of stairs (no elevator), and live in the mountains with lots of hills (I walk to my car, have a long driveway, etc).

    Thanks for reading my post!
  • wattsam1
    wattsam1 Posts: 95
    Are you suppose to eat all of your exercise calories? I was set up for 1200 calories a day and if I go under my calories when I close out I will get a note saying I need to eat more, but if I eat over 1200 calories and still have some calories left that note does not come up. Should we be eating all of our exercise calories? I notice on the days I work out and eat all the calories available I don't see a change in the scale but when I leave my exercise calories along the pounds come off. Can someone explain why?
  • Yes you have to eat your exercise calories or very close. Not junk food of course (although wine gets me tripped up but I just eat a little less) I was paraniod when I first started wanting to shed some pounds about eating. I thought the less I ate the more I would lose but according to here I was going about it all wrong. I always was confused about wathcing those weight loss shows as they eat ALOT more than me...but I read on here that what happens when you skip meals and not eat enough is your body starts to think it is starving and will store most of what you eat as fat. It you keep a good ratio though out the day of breakfast, snacks, good lunch, snack and then a good supper your body continuouly burns calories so even thoguh you think you are eating more you do lose weight. Eat snacks like bananas, fruit, ceral bar. Something like that. At the end of the day your calories remaining should be zero or close to that. It works...trust me. I was at a stand still after loosing about 15 pounds since Christmas until i got on here and figured out I was eating way to little. Now i have lost 2 more pounds in 1.5 weeks....
  • sonjavon
    sonjavon Posts: 1,019 Member
    Annaliza - I honestly don't know the answer to your question... I get confused when I start adding all the numbers in. My suggestion would be to shoot ShBoss1673 a message and ask him if he doesn't find his way to this thread. He's awesome when it comes to this stuff.

    wattsam1 - In short - Yes, you should be eating all of your exercise calories. The warning that you're seeing under 1200 calories is an alarm set on the website to let you know that you are not taking in enough calories and are at risk of going into a starvation mode. In general, you should never go under 1200 calories. You can do a search on exercise calories in the message boards and you'll find lots of information... The fact is that your body needs fuel to burn fat. MFP has already calculated a deficit for calories for you - eating too much lower than that deficit could cause you to actually lose weight slower because your body will hold on to what you have.
  • jtintx
    jtintx Posts: 445 Member
    4300 Calories burned in one day? That doesn't seem right to me....it seems too high. And if it is too high then you might be eating too many calories based on that number. Is your HR monitor meant to be worn all day like that?
  • 00Angela00
    00Angela00 Posts: 1,077 Member
    I believe that as you document your exercise your calories will increase. At least that's what happened to me. I started with 1200 calories for a day, but then as I noted my exercising for that day, the calories went up to 1400. Just keep in mind that your body needs so many calories to run, and if you don't get enough calories your body (including your matabolism) will slow down to accomadate. try and match the recommended calories for the day!
  • Zara11
    Zara11 Posts: 1,247 Member
    Try eating a fraction of your exercise calories. Works for me. What that fraction that is varies based on how I feel that day - anywhere from a fourth to nearly all of them, though I generally keep it to a half or less.
  • wattsam1
    wattsam1 Posts: 95
    Try eating a fraction of your exercise calories. Works for me. What that fraction that is varies based on how I feel that day - anywhere from a fourth to nearly all of them, though I generally keep it to a half or less.

    That's what I've been doing and I'm starting to notice a difference. My recommended intake is 1200 and after working out I go to about 1500 but I'm always too full by the end of the day and leace the last 50-100 calories alone. I don't want to force myself to eat but if that's wrong than I will adjust.
  • annaliza
    annaliza Posts: 809
    Do you think maybe my HRM is off? I just got it the other day. I did notice that I worked a little harder with my HRM on (hence why I burned 700 cals working out that day rather than my usual 600).

    I was wondering about the number of cals a person actually burns in one day. I take a lot of stairs at work (and my office is on the second floor) and I chase kids when I get off work. I'm pretty busy, I guess - I have 2 kids in diapers, work 2 jobs and go to grad school. Maybe I'm not so sendentary but somehow I got fat LOL (well, I do love fast food).

    I eat all my exercise calories (with out the exercise cals, I estimated that I burned 3600 in one day - including sleep time) ..I couldn't imgaine eating less than my exercise cals lol. Sometimes I exercise to eat more lol
  • mlmanney
    mlmanney Posts: 349 Member
    I only wear my HRM while activly exercising and enter those calories burned into my exercise log. I don't know about your HRM and I am sure that there are people here that know more about them than I do. I have a Polar F6. When considering which to buy, one of the negatives of this one was that you cant change the battery and have to send it away for service so I don't want to wear out my battery may be one of the reasons. Just MHO but I feel that I would like to track the exercise I am making an effort to do that gets my hr up and burns calories and anything else is just a bonus. when you enter in your info into MFP it takes into account already if you have an active or sedentary lifestyle so bottom line forme is that I wouldn't add in calories burned due to normal activity.
  • sonjavon
    sonjavon Posts: 1,019 Member
    I didn't take it as her actually counting all of her calories as exercise calories - but more or less checking if the numbers that she was using for MFP are correct. I did the same thing the first day I got my HRM.

    Annalize - if the numbers seem off - try changing your activity level setting on MFP to lightly active.... just because you have a desk job doesn't mean that you're sedentary. When I wore my HRM all day - I noticed that I burn a lot more than I thought I did as well... but I've been losing at a good pace so I didn't change anything.
  • MisoSoup79
    MisoSoup79 Posts: 517
    Just my opinion, but 1200 isn't right for everyone. I could not lose weight on 1200 calories, so I had to increase to 1400-1500 net calories. I eat all my exercise calories as well.

    It sounds to me like you are moderately active. The reason MFP has given you only 1200 calories to eat is because you've probably selected the option to lose 2 lbs per week, which is the maximum setting for MFP.

    I am also moderately active. Some days my workouts are worth only 350 cals, others I burn 1000 cals. But regardless of whether I work out, I walk dogs five days a week, so I am on my feet. I set my profile to lose 1 lb per week, so it gives me 1380 calories, but I always eat 1400-1500. That still gives me a deficit every day, since my daily activity requires close to 1900 calories. Even though I'm set to lose 1 lb per week, there are some weeks I lose 2 lbs, others I don't lose anything. Our bodily chemistry is not just a simple equation and even if you think you're doing everything right, sometimes the results are not what we expect. And even when you think you've been a little bad about overeating, you might be surprised to find you lose a little more that week - it's a rollercoaster ride.

    For me, I'd rather err on the high side of the calories because I do not want to permanently damage my metabolism. I'd rather lose slowly because my deficit is smaller than starve my body... because when I'm done losing, I don't want to be stuck with a low number of maintenance calories! Plus, I feel better when I eat enough. I don't care that my weight loss is slow... because I know I'm doing it the natural and safe way and it will be sustainable in the end.

    I started my journey on Jan 11 and I've lost 26 lbs so far. That is an average of 1.5 lbs per week. Some weeks I'd lose more and others I would not lose. Now that I am within a healthy weight range, I expect to lose a lot slower because that's just how it is.
  • annaliza
    annaliza Posts: 809
    Just my opinion, but 1200 isn't right for everyone. I could not lose weight on 1200 calories, so I had to increase to 1400-1500 net calories. I eat all my exercise calories as well.

    It sounds to me like you are moderately active. The reason MFP has given you only 1200 calories to eat is because you've probably selected the option to lose 2 lbs per week, which is the maximum setting for MFP.

    I am also moderately active. Some days my workouts are worth only 350 cals, others I burn 1000 cals. But regardless of whether I work out, I walk dogs five days a week, so I am on my feet. I set my profile to lose 1 lb per week, so it gives me 1380 calories, but I always eat 1400-1500. That still gives me a deficit every day, since my daily activity requires close to 1900 calories. Even though I'm set to lose 1 lb per week, there are some weeks I lose 2 lbs, others I don't lose anything. Our bodily chemistry is not just a simple equation and even if you think you're doing everything right, sometimes the results are not what we expect. And even when you think you've been a little bad about overeating, you might be surprised to find you lose a little more that week - it's a rollercoaster ride.

    For me, I'd rather err on the high side of the calories because I do not want to permanently damage my metabolism. I'd rather lose slowly because my deficit is smaller than starve my body... because when I'm done losing, I don't want to be stuck with a low number of maintenance calories! Plus, I feel better when I eat enough. I don't care that my weight loss is slow... because I know I'm doing it the natural and safe way and it will be sustainable in the end.

    I started my journey on Jan 11 and I've lost 26 lbs so far. That is an average of 1.5 lbs per week. Some weeks I'd lose more and others I would not lose. Now that I am within a healthy weight range, I expect to lose a lot slower because that's just how it is.

    You are so right!!! And I do have a tendancy to look at just the numbers rather than me being an individual. I have to agree with you on erring on the side.....I never though about being stuck with a low maintenance cals Oh Man! I definately don't want to do that!

    Sonjavon, I tried changing it to lightly active but no change...still the 1200 cals. Maybe moderately active?

    Anyways, thanks for all the great advice! I think it can be all so confusing. The last time I lost weight (before my two little ones came along) I lost 40 lbs by not even worrying about cals - just by exercising and eating healthy food. Now I'm all into counting cals and exercise cals...

    Lol, there's something to be said about keeping it simple!
  • adopt4
    adopt4 Posts: 970 Member
    You are active, taking the stairs,etc makes you active. It's not going to give you a lot of calories more but at least it will be closer to your actual activity level. And yes, eat ALL of your exercise cals back, as much as you can. The important number is NET calories, which is calories taken in MINUS the exercise cals, so if that goes under 1200 or even close to it (for some people 1300) you can be putting your body into starvation mode.

    What most people don't realize is the only people who can really play with their calories and take a huge deficit are the people that are really overweight/obese. But if you have 30 pounds or less to lose, you can't do that, you need to eat MORE. Also people don't realize you won't be losing 2 pounds a week or even 1 pound a week if you have 30 pounds to lose - that's not something your body is able to really do. Set it to .5 pound per week, and relax, and eat healthy and get active. It will come off, and the more you work out the trimmer you'll be regardless of what that evil number on the scale says.

    MFP puts in an auto deficit for you to lose weight. Check your BMR on another site and see if it's roughly the same as MFPs.
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