Safe calorie deficit for cutting cycle and keeping the muscl
Mateo1985
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Hello guys,
I've gone through a bulking cycle putting on about 20 lbs. A lot of that is fat so now it's time for me to go though a cutting cycle. I want to bring my body fat % down to within 7-12%. I'm now at 18-19%. As much as I want to lose the fat I do not want to be losing muscle that I've gained. Do you guys know what the same calorie deficit is for maintaining the lean mass? Is a 500 calorie a day safe deficit or should I go with something less like 200 cal deficit?
Thank you guys for the input.
I've gone through a bulking cycle putting on about 20 lbs. A lot of that is fat so now it's time for me to go though a cutting cycle. I want to bring my body fat % down to within 7-12%. I'm now at 18-19%. As much as I want to lose the fat I do not want to be losing muscle that I've gained. Do you guys know what the same calorie deficit is for maintaining the lean mass? Is a 500 calorie a day safe deficit or should I go with something less like 200 cal deficit?
Thank you guys for the input.
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Also, I know that too much cardio is not good for keeping the muscle. But how much is too much?0
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Hey thanks for that! I think I'd rather do these than extensive cardio any day!0 -
Hello guys,
I've gone through a bulking cycle putting on about 20 lbs. A lot of that is fat so now it's time for me to go though a cutting cycle. I want to bring my body fat % down to within 7-12%. I'm now at 18-19%. As much as I want to lose the fat I do not want to be losing muscle that I've gained. Do you guys know what the same calorie deficit is for maintaining the lean mass? Is a 500 calorie a day safe deficit or should I go with something less like 200 cal deficit?
Thank you guys for the input.
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Thank you for the input guys!!!0
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Keep carbs high as well as protein, and drop the fat calories. Carbs are muscle sparing and will allow you to keep your strength for longer. Trust me on this0
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Hello guys,
I've gone through a bulking cycle putting on about 20 lbs. A lot of that is fat so now it's time for me to go though a cutting cycle. I want to bring my body fat % down to within 7-12%. I'm now at 18-19%. As much as I want to lose the fat I do not want to be losing muscle that I've gained. Do you guys know what the same calorie deficit is for maintaining the lean mass? Is a 500 calorie a day safe deficit or should I go with something less like 200 cal deficit?
Thank you guys for the input.
A.C.E. Certified Personal Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 28+ years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
This is the key!! I've been doing a calorie cycling approach for a few months now and from my experience I've found that both the amount of deficit and the length of time you're on deficit affect how much muscle you lose. I try to keep my deficit to no more than a 1/2 pound a week. I keep my proteins high (1-1.4g per lbs of body weight) and my carbs at about 45%. So far the results have been pretty good, but I do have to keep close tabs on what my body is doing and adjust appropriately. Don't get yourself locked into one plan, be flexible and listen to what your body is telling you. If you don't already have one, get a set of body fat calipers and use that to watch your progress. I got the AccuMeasure caliper which only requires one measurement and that has been extremely helpful (far more helpful than just the scale alone).0 -
Boy, it's sure good to know that all the bike riding I did to lose the 34 pounds I've lost wasn't burning any fat at all. The 1,000-1,500 calories I burned per ride each day was just a myth too apparently.
(Sorry but I hate articles like this that insist on claiming that other methods are wrong and only theirs are right. Why can't they just say here's an alternative that engages more muscle groups and provides a level of strength training along with cardio exertion?)0 -
Boy, it's sure good to know that all the bike riding I did to lose the 34 pounds I've lost wasn't burning any fat at all. The 1,000-1,500 calories I burned per ride each day was just a myth too apparently.
(Sorry but I hate articles like this that insist on claiming that other methods are wrong and only theirs are right. Why can't they just say here's an alternative that engages more muscle groups and provides a level of strength training along with cardio exertion?)
I think you read into it a bit much. Relax.0 -
Keep carbs high as well as protein, and drop the fat calories. Carbs are muscle sparing and will allow you to keep your strength for longer. Trust me on this
A.C.E. Certified Personal Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 28+ years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition0 -
Hello guys,
I've gone through a bulking cycle putting on about 20 lbs. A lot of that is fat so now it's time for me to go though a cutting cycle. I want to bring my body fat % down to within 7-12%. I'm now at 18-19%. As much as I want to lose the fat I do not want to be losing muscle that I've gained. Do you guys know what the same calorie deficit is for maintaining the lean mass? Is a 500 calorie a day safe deficit or should I go with something less like 200 cal deficit?
Thank you guys for the input.
A.C.E. Certified Personal Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 28+ years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
This is the key!! I've been doing a calorie cycling approach for a few months now and from my experience I've found that both the amount of deficit and the length of time you're on deficit affect how much muscle you lose. I try to keep my deficit to no more than a 1/2 pound a week. I keep my proteins high (1-1.4g per lbs of body weight) and my carbs at about 45%. So far the results have been pretty good, but I do have to keep close tabs on what my body is doing and adjust appropriately. Don't get yourself locked into one plan, be flexible and listen to what your body is telling you. If you don't already have one, get a set of body fat calipers and use that to watch your progress. I got the AccuMeasure caliper which only requires one measurement and that has been extremely helpful (far more helpful than just the scale alone).
is there a particular body fat caliper that you'd recommend besides AccuMeasure?
Once again. Thanks for the input0 -
Boy, it's sure good to know that all the bike riding I did to lose the 34 pounds I've lost wasn't burning any fat at all. The 1,000-1,500 calories I burned per ride each day was just a myth too apparently.
(Sorry but I hate articles like this that insist on claiming that other methods are wrong and only theirs are right. Why can't they just say here's an alternative that engages more muscle groups and provides a level of strength training along with cardio exertion?)
I think you read into it a bit much. Relax.
Not reading anything into it, just reading the article. From your link: "Let’s cut the BS and get down to business: traditional cardio – running on the treadmill, sitting on a bike, riding on one of those stupid-looking elliptical machines – just doesn’t work that well if your main goal is to lose fat ".
It's not just this article, it's so many of these things where the authors want to act like everything that everyone else is doing is just wasted time and that there method is the only, as you put it, "serious" method. Complexes are a great way to combine cardio and strength training, however so are circuits and so are split workouts with traditional cardio and traditional strength training.0 -
Hello guys,
I've gone through a bulking cycle putting on about 20 lbs. A lot of that is fat so now it's time for me to go though a cutting cycle. I want to bring my body fat % down to within 7-12%. I'm now at 18-19%. As much as I want to lose the fat I do not want to be losing muscle that I've gained. Do you guys know what the same calorie deficit is for maintaining the lean mass? Is a 500 calorie a day safe deficit or should I go with something less like 200 cal deficit?
Thank you guys for the input.
A.C.E. Certified Personal Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 28+ years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
This is the key!! I've been doing a calorie cycling approach for a few months now and from my experience I've found that both the amount of deficit and the length of time you're on deficit affect how much muscle you lose. I try to keep my deficit to no more than a 1/2 pound a week. I keep my proteins high (1-1.4g per lbs of body weight) and my carbs at about 45%. So far the results have been pretty good, but I do have to keep close tabs on what my body is doing and adjust appropriately. Don't get yourself locked into one plan, be flexible and listen to what your body is telling you. If you don't already have one, get a set of body fat calipers and use that to watch your progress. I got the AccuMeasure caliper which only requires one measurement and that has been extremely helpful (far more helpful than just the scale alone).
is there a particular body fat caliper that you'd recommend besides AccuMeasure?
Once again. Thanks for the input
Aside from the AccuMeasure (which obviously is my preference since that's why I bought it), Warrior makes a cool digital caliper that works pretty nicely too and is relatively inexpensive.0 -
Hello guys,
I've gone through a bulking cycle putting on about 20 lbs. A lot of that is fat so now it's time for me to go though a cutting cycle. I want to bring my body fat % down to within 7-12%. I'm now at 18-19%. As much as I want to lose the fat I do not want to be losing muscle that I've gained. Do you guys know what the same calorie deficit is for maintaining the lean mass? Is a 500 calorie a day safe deficit or should I go with something less like 200 cal deficit?
Thank you guys for the input.
A.C.E. Certified Personal Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 28+ years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
This is the key!! I've been doing a calorie cycling approach for a few months now and from my experience I've found that both the amount of deficit and the length of time you're on deficit affect how much muscle you lose. I try to keep my deficit to no more than a 1/2 pound a week. I keep my proteins high (1-1.4g per lbs of body weight) and my carbs at about 45%. So far the results have been pretty good, but I do have to keep close tabs on what my body is doing and adjust appropriately. Don't get yourself locked into one plan, be flexible and listen to what your body is telling you. If you don't already have one, get a set of body fat calipers and use that to watch your progress. I got the AccuMeasure caliper which only requires one measurement and that has been extremely helpful (far more helpful than just the scale alone).
is there a particular body fat caliper that you'd recommend besides AccuMeasure?
Once again. Thanks for the input
Aside from the AccuMeasure (which obviously is my preference since that's why I bought it), Warrior makes a cool digital caliper that works pretty nicely too and is relatively inexpensive.
Thanks for the advise. I'll compare the two and get one of them.0
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