Tai Chi

Aintplayin
Aintplayin Posts: 102
edited September 24 in Fitness and Exercise
Is anyone into Tai Chi? I'm curious but have never done it. I have had some Christian friends tell me to cautious because of the 'spiritual' side of it, but I'm not too worried about that. I'm not wanting to do it to find myself, I'm just thinking of variety.

If you have had experience with Tai Chi, what do you like/dislike about it?

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  • mapinkerton
    mapinkerton Posts: 147
    I will be interested in hearing what others have to say also! I recently found out that they have free classes very close to my house. I am looking for some variety. AND the price is right!
  • swissmardi
    swissmardi Posts: 57 Member
    Love it!!!!
  • Lutiebelle
    Lutiebelle Posts: 36 Member
    I love Tai Chi & Qigong. I take a class once weekly at the senior center and people of all ages and physical abilities can do it. It may seem gentle but you can burn some serious calories. It is easy on the joints and does not require a lot of space. The chi energy that is generated is very healing and makes you feel good all over! Do it if you have the opportunity.
  • Lutiebelle
    Lutiebelle Posts: 36 Member
    BTW: It is NOT associated with any religion!
  • melaniecheeks
    melaniecheeks Posts: 6,349 Member
    Sorry - your Christian friends are telling you to avoid it...because they think it might impact on your faith?

    Does that not seem a little paranoid? I'm not aware of any great spiritual element of Tai Chi, but surely any exploration of your OWN spirituality would be good.
  • cuddlegrl
    cuddlegrl Posts: 101 Member
    I looked it up on Youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNWPk6tYoUM

    Doesnt look like you'll need to worry about religous stuff. I am told it helps with blood flow and overall health and is almost like a meditation.

    Also helps with balance and muscular stamina.

    Good luck :smile:
  • lilRicki
    lilRicki Posts: 4,555 Member
    No doubt, how absurd that your friends are worried about your spirituality...if anything it's an amazing spirtual cleanse. I love it, I love the movements and the attention to detail and nature. I love the deep breathing and the grounding. It's super relaxing and really works my core because you have to balance. It is a stress relief and a deep meditation.
  • gambitsgurl
    gambitsgurl Posts: 632 Member
    Not to be snarky but, do you watch tv? Reality shows? Do your friends? Cause really I think God would rather me slow down and meditate than watch the Kardashians.
  • koosdel
    koosdel Posts: 3,317 Member
    It's not what goes into your heart, its what comes out.

    ...read that in a book once.
  • weaverfit
    weaverfit Posts: 124
    How do you log qigong as exercise using the options MFP provides? I don't see it in the database. And how many calories does it burn?

    ETA: I found this: "When performed smoothly and without stopping, tai chi, the most popular form of qigong, can burn about 280 calories an hour, according to Bill Douglas, founder of World T'ai Chi and Qigong Day, writing on the website Taekwondo101.
    Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/302738-calories-burned-from-qigong/#ixzz1ijA2RmT9"
  • DizzieLittleLifter
    DizzieLittleLifter Posts: 1,020 Member
    My husband does Tai Chi and Kung Fu. He has done it for 18 years. He loves it and it's a fantastic workout. It can have nothing or everything to do with religion. It's your choice just like yoga. I'm willing to bet that my runs are more spiritual than half the yoga and Kung Fu classes out there. We are not Christians however, so my word is probably not worth anything. :huh:
  • MEMA5
    MEMA5 Posts: 93 Member
    :wink: HEY TAI CHI IS AN EXCELLENT FORM A EXERCISE FOR PEOPLE WITH ARTHRITIS AND GREAT FOR STRETCHING, AND BREATHING CONTROL, IT PREACHES NO RELIGION. I HAVE BEEN DOING TAI CHI FOR A LONG TIME, I ALSO DO QI GONG. IT IS A GREAT ADDITIONAL FORM OF RELAXING YOUR BODY. IN ADDITION TO YOUR REGULAR WORKOUTS.. THERE IS NO "BOOGIEMAN " BEHIND THIS ANCIENT FORM OF STRETCHING AND RELAXATION. THERE ARE MANY GOOD DVD'S OUT HERE BUY ONE AND SEE FOR YOURSELF. PEOPLE SHOULD DO THEIR RESEARCH BEFORE VOICING AN OPINION ON MATTERS THEY ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH..GOOD LUCK ..PEACE ISSY:flowerforyou:
  • LuckyLeprechaun
    LuckyLeprechaun Posts: 6,296 Member
    Tai Chi's lovely, but if you're looking for a workout, look to Tai Chi's big brother Kung Fu. Tai Chi isn't going to raise your heart rate enough to do much of anything, and that quote saying 280cals/hr is a crock.

    <--- former Kung Fu/Tai Chi instructor.

    If you do get into Tai Chi, find someone to teach you Push Hands. It is the best coolest part of it.
  • lilRicki
    lilRicki Posts: 4,555 Member
    Tai Chi's lovely, but if you're looking for a workout, look to Tai Chi's big brother Kung Fu. Tai Chi isn't going to raise your heart rate enough to do much of anything, and that quote saying 280cals/hr is a crock.

    <--- former Kung Fu/Tai Chi instructor.

    If you do get into Tai Chi, find someone to teach you Push Hands. It is the best coolest part of it.

    So how many calories do you suggest it burns?
  • I learned Tai Chi through the Arthitis Association. Not only was it free, it was fun. There were people in the 30's-90's in the class.The only thing I found difficult was standing for the 60 minute class time, due to a back problem. Other than that, I was great. The music played was from the Orient. I believe you are thinking of Meditation being spiritual.
  • grassette
    grassette Posts: 976 Member
    I've been doing Tai Chi since September, and I find it to be a great exercise. It burns a huge amount of calories (check out the database on MFP), works your joints and improves your balance. It is a great exercise for seniors.

    I am taking lessons from a couple who were Tai Chi masters in China. He teaches Chen style, which is more martial, which appeals to the men. She teaches Yang style and I am taking lessons from her.

    If you are interested in learning Tai Chi, take a few sample lessons before you commit to courses. Not all tai chi teachers are equal. When I was searching for a tai chi master, I went with a friend who grew up in Hong Kong, and had a good idea of what to look for. There were certainly classes that I took once before figuring out that it wasn't for me. i.e. too oriented towards fighting; too hard on the knees. I also had a bad experience taking lessons from my community centre from a young man who knew a little bit about it, but who was not qualified.

    Chinese medicine is all about medians of energy coursing through the body. One of the first treatsies on Chinese medicine was written about 6,000 years ago, and I do believe that the Chinese have discovered something that Westerners have not. Tai Chi uses that knowledge.

    There is a spiritual element to it. My friend, who starting taking instructions two years ago recently told me that our instructor knows how to do tai chi meditation, but is hesitant to teach it to us because it could also work against us. It's not much information to pass on, but it does let us know that there can be more to it. I am not interested in learning the meditation and want to keep it on the level of exercise.

    Yoga is also a spiritual discipline, and many Catholic priests in India are aware of its occult potential, and have warned Westerners about it. In my own studies, I have found it interesting that Eastern Orthodox monks have prohibited following the breath into the body when praying the Jesus prayer, when this is the first thing that they teach you when you start to learn yoga meditation. There is an element of self-hypnosis to doing that, and that might just open you up to other influences that you might not be able to control. So I can see why they warn against it.

    In Tai Chi, what I have done is to Christianize the references to energy. When we are told to pay respect to the ancestor's of Tai Chi, I pray for their souls. When I am told to visualize energy coming into my body, I will pray that the Lord fill me with his grace and presence. When I am told to expel negative energy, I ask the Lord to deliver me from evil, and visualize that.

    I have no intention of learning the meditation. I have found the physical effects of Tai Chi to be excellent. Several years ago, I was in a bad traffic accident, and have had trouble walking ever since. Taking Tai Chi has helped me to overcome the constant pain I was in, and has restored motion to parts of my body that were all seized up. For this reason, I intend to continue with it as exercise well into my old age.

    Good luck in your quest. I hope that you find a good Tai Chi instructor.
  • DizzieLittleLifter
    DizzieLittleLifter Posts: 1,020 Member
    Tai Chi's lovely, but if you're looking for a workout, look to Tai Chi's big brother Kung Fu. Tai Chi isn't going to raise your heart rate enough to do much of anything, and that quote saying 280cals/hr is a crock.

    <--- former Kung Fu/Tai Chi instructor.

    If you do get into Tai Chi, find someone to teach you Push Hands. It is the best coolest part of it.

    So how many calories do you suggest it burns?

    The movements are very slow, so probably less than you would walking slowly.
  • We do very basic tai chi in my theatre department and I'm not a huge fan. It is all very slow and I could see where it'd be great to calm down and gain balance but I have never saw it as a workout unless you do something intense. If you want something similar and that I know is a great workout, try yoga!
  • sekhmet13
    sekhmet13 Posts: 49 Member
    I studied Tai Chi Chuan for quite a few years, and I should stress that there's a difference between the Tai Chi that you see at retirement homes and the Tai Chi Chuan that I was learning (Tai Chi Chuan stresses the self-defense part, yes all of those moves you see are designed for messing up your attacker). There are also weapons forms to learn if you're interested in that. I didn't lose weight doing it, but it does teach control. It's a good challenge to do forms slowly but precisely! What I gained most is my sanity, the stress went away, and I very rarely get upset anymore. The first time you truly experience other people's Chi (energy), you will know it. I know it sounds silly, but keep an open mind!

    And yes, I'm a Lutheran, and my mom had issues at first, until she saw how calm & relaxed I became. Tai Chi isn't religious, but more about gaining peace within yourself.

    Good luck!
  • Maryaly40
    Maryaly40 Posts: 551 Member
    Not to be snarky but, do you watch tv? Reality shows? Do your friends? Cause really I think God would rather me slow down and meditate than watch the Kardashians.





    I freakin hate hearing about the kardashians!!!!!
  • grassette
    grassette Posts: 976 Member
    Yang style routines for the beginner:

    8 step: http://youtu.be/lH4JZ6aqCbA

    16 step: http://youtu.be/KDdlw4-sRWY

    24 step: http://youtu.be/--5C_5uMBsU

    42 step: http://youtu.be/OhAteqhtNQE

    Note that there is a warm-up routine before you start doing this that lasts about an hour. Everything is controlled. Breath is coordinated. You breathe through the nose. And your joints are in constant movement. Everything is so subtle. It's called meditation in motion for that reason.

    Chen style, for contrast: http://youtu.be/tJvEpi2sxoo
  • grassette
    grassette Posts: 976 Member
    So how many calories do you suggest it burns?

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    90 minutes burns 483 calories.
  • weaverfit
    weaverfit Posts: 124
    source please?
  • grassette
    grassette Posts: 976 Member
    source please?

    MFP database. I've checked it out on other databases on the web as well, because I was so surprised at the burn, and MFB is right in the ballpark.
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