Advice from Vegetarians Please! :D
StacySkinny
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At a Chinese restaurant yesterday they brought a complimentary bowl of soup to the table (and like most traditional Chinese restaurants they don't even ask first, they just bring it). My boyfriend insisted I try it, but I could see that there where chunks of beef in it. He KNOWS I'm vegetarian now, but this is something he's finding difficult to accept. He actually got mad at me that I just didn't "pick out the pieces of meat" and eat the rest. He doesn't get that the soup is made up of the fat and juices from the meat. I don't want to eat that. I could care less if he eats meat - he can eat an entire cow for all I care. So why does it bother him that I don't want to eat meat or meat fats and "juices"?
He'll be eating chicken, and I kid you not, will ask me no less then three times if I want some. Am I sure I don't want some? Couldn't I just try it? It's really good, am I sure? It's driving me mad.
He's not handling my preferred way of eating very well. I've talked to him about it, and he was supportive at first. But I think he assumed that it would last only a week and then I'd give up and go back to being a meat eater. lol But I haven't and he seems to be getting annoyed with me about it.
And before anyone says "dump that unsupportive jerk" - please know that he's a wonderful man, we've been together for 4 years, he's the light of my life, and he's almost always supportive of me and everything I do. It just seems that when it comes to my eating he's having trouble accepting what I choose to put in my body (or more to the point, what I chose NOT to put in my body).
Anyway, I'd love some advice please - perhaps from someone who's had a similar situation in their life.
*tldr* - How did you deal with your loved ones when it comes to your new way of eating?
He'll be eating chicken, and I kid you not, will ask me no less then three times if I want some. Am I sure I don't want some? Couldn't I just try it? It's really good, am I sure? It's driving me mad.
He's not handling my preferred way of eating very well. I've talked to him about it, and he was supportive at first. But I think he assumed that it would last only a week and then I'd give up and go back to being a meat eater. lol But I haven't and he seems to be getting annoyed with me about it.
And before anyone says "dump that unsupportive jerk" - please know that he's a wonderful man, we've been together for 4 years, he's the light of my life, and he's almost always supportive of me and everything I do. It just seems that when it comes to my eating he's having trouble accepting what I choose to put in my body (or more to the point, what I chose NOT to put in my body).
Anyway, I'd love some advice please - perhaps from someone who's had a similar situation in their life.
*tldr* - How did you deal with your loved ones when it comes to your new way of eating?
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I'm not a vegetarian, but I am eating lots of fruits and vegetables. He goes crazy if he doesn't get meat. He needs meat.0
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Have you asked him why he is getting so upset? If you don't know that reason, nothing you are going to do or say will remedy the matter. It took quite a number of years before my mother accepted it and I knew the reason why. Sit down and talk to him about and how it is upsetting you that he is upset. Otherwise keeping being a vegetarian and let him eat all of the meat in the world.0
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Have you asked him why he is getting so upset? If you don't know that reason, nothing you are going to do or say will remedy the matter. It took quite a number of years before my mother accepted it and I knew the reason why. Sit down and talk to him about and how it is upsetting you that he is upset. Otherwise keeping being a vegetarian and let him eat all of the meat in the world.
He told me he thinks I'm going "over board" with my new way of eating. I think it stems from the fact that for years in our relationship we've always enjoyed meat together. And now that I'm not a meat eater and have also cut out a lot of the 'bad carbs" in addition to all meat, maybe he's afraid of me changing too much and not being as close to him. We've always been "foodies" together and one of our favorite things was going out to different restaurants and trying new foods. I think maybe he's afraid of losing that with me.
He comes from a very traditional Asian family and like most Asians (from what I've learned) he just doesn't talk about his feelings much (if at all). I was with him for TWO YEARS before he told me about his dad committing suicide when he was just a teen. For years he just told me that his dad was dead and never would elaborate on it. Finally after being together for so long I'm just now finding out about things that most people would have opened up about a long time ago. So getting him to talk about things like this and his feelings is so hard as he just kind of shrugs and changes the subject. His family does the same thing and so do some of my other Asian friends. So I'm not sure how do go about this.0 -
Yeah it sounds like he just wants to enjoy eating with you like you used to (like it's an event) and he feels you can't do this anymore. I'd suggest finding new activities to enjoy together, and on occasion go out and share a decadent dessert! I'm vegetarian and my hubby is a meat eater and he has no issue with it. But when I get obsessive with calories, that drives him crazy because, as this happened in the past, I would talk about it non stop and never want to go out to eat. So now I cook at home, I don't obsess with what I'm eating and when we do go out, he gets to try what I'm having. It will take time for him to adjust.0
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Yeah it sounds like he just wants to enjoy eating with you like you used to (like it's an event) and he feels you can't do this anymore. I'd suggest finding new activities to enjoy together, and on occasion go out and share a decadent dessert! I'm vegetarian and my hubby is a meat eater and he has no issue with it. But when I get obsessive with calories, that drives him crazy because, as this happened in the past, I would talk about it non stop and never want to go out to eat. So now I cook at home, I don't obsess with what I'm eating and when we do go out, he gets to try what I'm having. It will take time for him to adjust.
Awesome! That's really great advice. I think that you're spot on!
I'll definitely try finding new activities for us to do together so that he doesn't feel like he's losing a part of me. Thank you for the great advice!
Edit- I reread your post and yeah, I'll also have to make sure I'm not talking about calories and food too much around him. I do get excited about my veg low carb diet and I'm sure he doesn't want to hear about it. lol When I get passionate about something I like to talk about it, so I need to make sure I'm not talking about it too much or obsessing. I don't think I am, but I need to just monitor myself for a few days to make sure. lol Thanks again! *big hugs*0 -
I've actually dealt with and in some ways am still dealing with a similar issue. My choice to eat healthier is something my boyfriend supports but doesn't quite know how to deal with.
We were both extreme foodies and ate anything and everything to our heart's desire; pizza, ice cream, giant bowls of pasta, etc. However over the past few months I've been very diligent about eating healthy and losing weight. I've made it known to him that while I need to do this for myself I in no way expect him to follow my example.
At first it was fine, but then it got awkward and strange. He would get depressed at almost every dinner because we would have to cook 2 separate meals. Between the time and cost of everything he decided that he would start just eating the same dinner as me. This of course didn't solve the problem at all. He still wanted pizza, beer, and ice cream, he just refused to say it now.
Eventually I sat him down and had a heart to heart with him. I explained that my "healthier" choices were not his choices and he didn't have to follow them. He in turn replied to me saying that my "healthier" choices made him feel as though he was doing something wrong. That's not the case at all! I explained to him that I don't think that just because he isn't eating low calorie dinners and lots of vegetables that he's being "stupid". There's nothing wrong with his choices.
I don't know your boyfriend personally but he may feel the same way. As individuals it's easy to become angry at things that confuse us. And if becoming a vegetarian is something relatively new, this might be the case.
Sorry about the long back story, just thought it might be helpful.0 -
Hmm,
i could see his point of view, if it was something all-of-a-sudden, he may have had as much of a shell shock as you did when adjusting. I would politely say no next time, and if he persists, let him know that you are focused on your new eating goal, and would appreciate his support. If he asks, explain (politely!) that it is difficult for you when he offers or critiques.
On the other hand, respect his wanting to wat meat, and when he does not want a vegetarian option, respect him and do not offer again...
I know how you feel, though. I think we both went Veggie on New Years Day. I just politely decline offers, even if they are persistant, and I take all jokes with a Grain of salt. being lighthearted seems to make everyone more comfortable with my decision.0 -
I've actually dealt with and in some ways am still dealing with a similar issue. My choice to eat healthier is something my boyfriend supports but doesn't quite know how to deal with.
We were both extreme foodies and ate anything and everything to our heart's desire; pizza, ice cream, giant bowls of pasta, etc. However over the past few months I've been very diligent about eating healthy and losing weight. I've made it known to him that while I need to do this for myself I in no way expect him to follow my example.
At first it was fine, but then it got awkward and strange. He would get depressed at almost every dinner because we would have to cook 2 separate meals. Between the time and cost of everything he decided that he would start just eating the same dinner as me. This of course didn't solve the problem at all. He still wanted pizza, beer, and ice cream, he just refused to say it now.
Eventually I sat him down and had a heart to heart with him. I explained that my "healthier" choices were not his choices and he didn't have to follow them. He in turn replied to me saying that my "healthier" choices made him feel as though he was doing something wrong. That's not the case at all! I explained to him that I don't think that just because he isn't eating low calorie dinners and lots of vegetables that he's being "stupid". There's nothing wrong with his choices.
I don't know your boyfriend personally but he may feel the same way. As individuals it's easy to become angry at things that confuse us. And if becoming a vegetarian is something relatively new, this might be the case.
Sorry about the long back story, just thought it might be helpful.
Wow, that makes a LOT of sense! I have explained to him that I don't expect him to eat the way I do nor do I think he should (he's one of those people who has never been overweight a day in his life). But, you're right, he might be feeling like I'm judging him or that I'm thinking that his choices aren't good choices just because I am making different choices when it comes to my body. I still want him to be able to enjoy all the foods he loves without feeling guilty about it or feeling like he can't, just because I'm around. You're so right, I need to make this extremely clear to him.
"...it got awkward and strange. He would get depressed at almost every dinner" I've noticed this too. He used to be really happy and talkative at meals and now he's very quiet and seems depressed.
I'll definitely talk to him again and try to make these points clear to him. I don't want my chosen way of eating to be a stress in our relationship.
Thank you for the great advice!0 -
Hmm,
i could see his point of view, if it was something all-of-a-sudden, he may have had as much of a shell shock as you did when adjusting. I would politely say no next time, and if he persists, let him know that you are focused on your new eating goal, and would appreciate his support. If he asks, explain (politely!) that it is difficult for you when he offers or critiques.
The no meat thing has been coming for a while now. As I've been slowly cutting down on and cutting out meats for the past 3 years. It probably wasn't much of a shock, but the no meat COUPLED with the low carb might have been a bit of a shock to him. lol Thanks for the advice on how to handle it next time. I appreciate it!On the other hand, respect his wanting to wat meat, and when he does not want a vegetarian option, respect him and do not offer again...
I do not offer him vegetarian options. I learned a long time ago that he's a meat lover and wouldn't even bother to offer. lol I tried twice in the past (months ago when I was just transitioning into going vegetarian) to get him to enjoy a vegetarian dish and both times he said "It's good, but it needs meat". lol So yeah, since going totally vegetarian I've never offered him it to him as an option. lol He's just not a fan of meatless meals so I don't even try.0 -
It just takes time for people to get use to it. Some people genuinely forget. Some people think it's funny and some people just don't know. Like the fat in the soup, or bone marrow in marshmallows, gummy candy, people find it "extreme."
Have fun exploring new vegetarian foods and restaurants together. Find new restaurants and check it out.
After a while my family and friends really enjoyed trying out new things with me. ^^0 -
I'm a vegetarian and my husband is a carnivore. We've never had this problem, but I was a well-established vegetarian WAY before we ever met. Anyways, your SO should be supportive of your choice, not try to ridicule you. Trying talking to him about it, and make it clear that you're serious. Eventually, after you've been a vegetarian for a while, he should catch on that this is a permanent change and not just a silly fad.
Good luck!
And btw, most soups in restaurants and groceries stores are never vegetarian. Beef stock, fish stock, and chicken stock are almost always used as bases in soups.0 -
I think this is a fairly common issue in relationships where food is a component of the "together" time. When one person starts changing their relationship with food, even gradually, the other person can feel left behind, or worry about how the changes are going to impact the comfortable routine, visits to favourite restaurants, etc. He might even worry that you're going to see him and his eating patterns differently in light of your new eating philosophy, or wonder what changes are next. It may take away some of his sense of stability and familiarity. And sometimes, it's scary when the person you love changes anything at all. "What else do they want or plan that I don't know about?" is something people may wonder when a partner launches into a new diet or declares they want to change careers.
I've also noticed that vegetarians who used to eat meat often have a hard time with their loved ones--who knew them and ate with them back when they ate meat--saying things like, "oh it's only a bit of chicken soup base...don't make a big deal about it." People seem to assume that a vegetarian should be able to "handle" a bit of meat product here and there in sauces, etc. if they used to eat meat. A close friend of mine was called a "selfish, stubborn extremist" by her mother for refusing to eat a piece of the birthday cheesecake her mother made for her several weeks after she went vegan. Obviously her mother was being terribly passive aggressive by making a cheesecake in the first place...but even when it's something more mild, I think this takes a lot of patience to deal with.
My friend's tactic was to acknowledge that "it wouldn't kill her" (as her mother said) to eat the cheese, but she also said that she had chosen to eat a certain way and she made a promise to herself to stick with it, otherwise she wouldn't feel she could truly consider herself a vegan. It validated her mother's viewpoint to an extent, and placed the emphasis on the personal nature of the choice.
It may take time, but if he truly loves and supports you (and it sounds like he does) he will adjust. It may take him a few tries to figure out how to adapt to the new norm. Try asking him if there's anything you can do to make it an easier transition for him, or plan to cook some dinners together with a meat element for him and something else for you (like make a stirfry, and add chicken to his portion and tofu to yours), to show that your lives and eating habits are still compatible and fun.0 -
My husband and I's BIGGEST fight ever revolved around me not eating seafood! He was absolutely beside himself that I wouldn't just try something. Ten years (and a few more fights) later, I realize now that me not eating seafood was triggering this button in him that he had married the wrong girl -- because he had always imagined him and his wife exploring the world and trying all sorts of cuisines. Me not wanting to even have a piece of fish was like this dream of his was dying. How ABSURD!!!
It just took time for him to see that things weren't changing and he needed to accept it. But I also needed to have grace for him while he figured it out.0
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