Elimination Diet 2012
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You know I never really paid attention to specific foods and how it affected me digestively (But I am now). I just accepted it as normal.
Had my curried lentils. Almost immediately stomach was gurgling and gassy. OK, it's beans... But now I am nauseous and just feel icky, and of course bloated. Problem is, just started 7 day regime of antibiotics for which nausea is a symptom (also lack of appetite which explains not drinking enough smoothies). Also expecting TOM anytime now. What a horrible to time to start this! I planned on eating lentils for dinner and maybe some tomorrow. But now wondering if I should go back to smoothies and try eating them again and see if there is a reaction again. (oh, must see if curry powder can have gluten or other stuff.)
I just wanna go home and lay down. Now my lid is jumping. I swear, am i going to just start imagining symptoms. I would love to be able to get as specific as you did with your allergies SeaSiren.0 -
Still sick to my stomach. Burbling and all. Chose to just eat some grapes instead of dinner, but only felt good when I was eating it, afterwards more indigestion. Boo. Wish I didn't have those other variables, so I could be sure what's going on.0
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Hey there DoingItNow, sorry I have been so absent. Work has been insane and I haven't posted food or anything. Still sticking to the diet. I am going to stay in phase 1 until this Sunday, when I try lemon juice. Yoo hoo! I sent you a message with my email. I haven't heard from you, so I think you haven't seen it. With work being so crazy, it might be easier to stay in touch through email. I am dying of boredom! I am trying to stay motivated with the limited foods. Last night I pigged out on cooked lentils, my home made flax crackers, sauerkraut, avocado and rice. It was a weird combination, but I was stressed and really wanted a vegan cookie. I am so sorry you are not feeling well after the lentils. My sis has a thing about lentils and her tummy. Okay, got to get back to work. See if you got my message. I am rooting for you chickie and I feel your pain and boredom. Hang in there. I keep telling myself, if I cheat, I have to start all over - so that is keeping me good.0
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One more thing DoingItNow. One of my favorite things has become rice with chopped avocado and salt - all mixed up. It is weird, but very tasty and feels like comfort food. I warm up some rice each night and add a bunch of chopped avocado to it with lots of salt. Somehow it helps. You could add a bunch more herbs too like basil - but I am lazy. Hang in there chickie!!!!!0
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First I'd have to find an elimination diet that worked for me. Green smoothies won't work, because raw greens and tropical fruits are both problems for me. A rice based diet would not work because all grains are a problem. I believe it is "The Food Allergy Cookbook" that tells you how to set up your own elimination diet, starting with one food you believe to be safe.
Good luck all!
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pdworkman, did you try one? How did you find out allergies.
Sriraw, I don't have a message. But email probably wouldn'tt work. All that stuff is blocked at my job. I am surprised myfitnesspal is not. So we may just have to keep going like this without real time communication. I don't want to use my job email, as they monitor everything. I work in a prison.
Love avocado and I love rice, so I am sure I would enjoy it. Today I had a whole avocado with just a little bit of salt. Yummo.0 -
pdworkman, did you try one? How did you find out allergies.
No short answer to that one.
- Meat and dairy - I was getting sick every couple of weeks, I would end up throwing up for three days at a time. Figured out that each time I was throwing up the same foods; meat and dairy.
- Gluten - we knew that my son had intolerances that were causing him digestive and possibly behavioural issues, but avoided changing his diet because it was already limited. But it got so that he couldn't eat without laying down doubled up on the couch afterwards. I figured gluten and dairy were the most likely culprits and we cut them out of his diet. Because of his limited impulse control, that meant there couldn't be any gluten or dairy in the house or he would be into it. So my husband and I were also both off of gluten except for the rare occasion when we ate out somewhere else. I quickly noticed that when I ate gluten, I had problems. Turns out that I have celiac disease.
- Other grains - I had very bad dry eyes and mouth, no matter what I did. It was extremely painful. Those are symptoms of Srogen's, another autoimmune disorder. In searching for possible dietary triggers for this autoimmune reaction, I found that others had their symptoms go into remission when removing all grains from the diet. So I went off of rice and corn and sorghum and all the rest, which has largely solved the problem. Autoimmune diseases like celiacs and Srogrens tend to run together and may just be different symptoms of a more complicated disease than we understand at this point.
- heartburn/ulcer triggers - a number of foods (carrots, tomato sauce, chocolate, lemons, etc.), if eaten in too large an amount, will trigger my ulcer. As long as I eat them in small amounts, I am okay. But once my ulcer flares, I have to take acid reducers and completely avoid the triggers, or the problems can drag out for weeks or months. This is probably related to small intestine bacterial overgrowth caused by celiac disease.
- allergic reactions - I have several foods (some nuts, dates, raw pineapple, raw green beans) which, taken in small amounts, cause sores in my mouth. If I ignore this warning sign, they will eventually get worse and trigger an anaphylactic reaction. Unfortunately, this is a similar symptom to my oral allergy syndrome. If I am already reacting to something, then any tropical fruit or strawberries will cause tingling/mouth sores. The multiple allergies are likely caused by celiac disease. Medications are really hard on me too. I can have anaphylaxis or bothersome side effects like all of the skin peeling off my hands.
- fructose intolerance - I have mild fructose intolerance. In people with the more serious fructose intolerance disorders, they cannot eat any fruit or many vegetables. With me, I am okay if I have moderate amounts of fructose, but if I have unusually large amounts, it causes my blood sugar to crash, causing dizziness, nausea, fainting, etc. I found this out when trying an anti-inflammatory diet, which emphasized lots of apples and other high-fructose fruits. I couldn't go anywhere without something to eat, because my blood sugar would take a sudden dive. And often the foods that I ate to try to boost my blood sugar were the high-fructose fruits that were actually causing it in the first place. Oddly, my dad and I both figured out the same week that we were having problems being caused by high-fructose fruits. I dialled way back on the apples and other fruits, and took glucose tablets as necessary, and managed to get my blood sugar stabilized again. No idea if this reaction is related to celiac disease or not. My dad has both this problem and celiac disease as well.
- raw greens - I tried Joel Fuhrman's "Eat to Live" diet, which emphasizes bean and greens. Lots of green salads, green smoothies, etc. While this sort of diet, high in fibre, normally cures any constipation problems. For me, it compounded the problems that I already had from a genetic disorder and celiac disease, making things *very* uncomfortable. Only by backing off of the greens and adding back in potatoes and rice (I was still on rice at this time) was I able to regulate my bowels again. Apparently this is a known effect of raw greens on some people.
At this point, I think I know all of the foods that cause me problems. There are still issues with cross-contamination, and with celiac disease, I will probably continue to get new allergies, but that's it at the moment!
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WoW so sorry. I am learning so much!
Felt better yesterday, still icky, but not as bad Nothing but fruits, wasn't the plan really. but after running and nearly passing out and the intense nausea, didn't feel like eating. Decided it's the side effect of Meds, plus not enough calories. So will hold off on judgement.
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Oh man, sorry you aren't feeling well DoingItNow! Hope these feelings lift for you. I might have missed it - but you are taking a new medication? Hopefully, the side effects die down a bit for you soon. Otherwise, I would give your doc a call and discuss what is going on.
No worries about not being able to keep in touch through email. Interesting that you work in a prison. I haven't made any new recipes to talk about. I am getting pretty bored, but I am really excited to add in lemon on Sunday. I am really hoping that it goes well, since I have a lot of recipes that I want to make that use lemon. The rice/avocado thing is a saver for me. So, comforting and nourishing.....0 -
One more thing. I think I am going to make this cabbage soup over the weekend. Sounds like the perfect winter soup and it is phase 1 compliant. http://www.nourishingmeals.com/2009/09/healing-quinoa-cabbage-soup.html0
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I love cabbage, but weary of cabbage soup. let me know if it tastes yummy. I had plans to make all kinds of things I have not. And the curried lentil is still hanging around in my fridge. But I have a 3 day weekend coming up, so plenty of time to experiement.
II'm taking an antibotic, 3 more days and I am done! I hate the side effects, but I am more irritated because it confuses things right now. But i'm going to keep going. As you say, If i don't then i will just have to start over. Today for lunch I had a large baked sweet potato and an avocado. yummy. But really gotta push to increase calories.
Are you having any problems eating enough calories? (Another side effect is loss of appetite, butas i said, will be done soon).
Your Diary is private, do you mean for it to be?0 -
Well missed a couple doses of Meds, so today will be last day. I feel much better though. Ate the lentils again, only mild gas, so it wasn't it that made me feel awful. But I did discover, that fuji apples causes me to be really bloated and gassy, like green grapes. I think I will extend phase one a few days to allow Meds to clear my body.
Thinking might sauté some cabbage today.0 -
Both apples and grapes are high-fructose fruits. You may have trouble tolerating that concentrated a source of fructose. Only have small amounts of them, combine with proteins, and focus instead on lower-fructose fruits like citrus, berries, and stone fruit.
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Will try that out Pam0
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Hi buddy (DoingItNow), sorry I have been so absent. Work has just been insane! I think there is a way to send messages through myfitnesspal. If you look at the top, there is this place to send messages to a person. That is where I sent you a message a while back. Maybe your work blocks that - but take a look.
Okay, my diary being locked. Let me see if I can figure out how to unlock it. I have to warn you, other than keeping track of my weight; I haven't kept track of food the last couple of weeks since work is so busy. I added lemon juice and wheat-free tamari without any issues over the weekend so I am going to expand to beans this week. I should mention that my breakfast and lunch have not changed much since starting this diet. It is dinner where I eat a bunch of fun stuff that I have had to cut a bunch of stuff.
So glad that you can handle lentils now. Those have always been a big part of my diet and they are so easy and convenient. I hope to have a bit of time tomorrow and I will send you a daily dairy of what I eat. I have to warn you, I used to eat a mostly raw food diet - so some of my meals may not seem too exciting or palatable to you. Good luck miss and congratulations of finally being off the meds!!!0 -
Hey Sriraw,
I would love to see what you eat to get some ideas. But please don't over extend yourself. You can change your diary under settings. Go to home, choose settings, then choose, diary settings. I'm behind on updating mine myself.
I decided not to extend phase one and introduced lemons today. Being really lazy in food prep, so jet ate a lemon. I find that my appetite is way down after last week, and I am not eating enough calories. But I am feeling good, right now.0 -
Hey missy! Finally a free moment to let you know what I have been eating. Note that I used to do the raw food diet a long time ago, so I do a lot of raw stuff by day. Also, I added beans with no incident, so now I have jumped around in what to add back and tried tortilla chips today. Don’t seem to bother me. Yeah – since they are a big part of my diet!
Breakfast: A salad of raw red cabbage, raw beets, raw carrots, and cooked quinoa. Apple and a few homemade raw flax crackers.
Lunch: Green smoothie that includes rotating weekly greens plus avocado, celery and now lemon juice. This week it is parsley. When I add back tomatoes, I usually include those too. Some adzuki beans and butternut squash. I have been pretty boring and just putting salt on this. I usually make a bean dish for my lunch, but am running out of ideas when I can’t use tomatoes.
Afternoon snack: pear and blackberries and more flax crackers if hungry.
Dinner: This week it is the kitcheree dish with roasted cauliflower. I had this recipe to roast cauliflower with ground sunflower seeds and some spices. Really tasty.
Evening snack: This has been a mixed bag. I am pretty ravenous in the evening and will have lentils, rice, avocado and some other ED friendly foods until I am stuffed. I am really liking the hot salted rice with avocado and I can eat quite a bit of that. If tortilla chips continue to be okay, I love have chips with cooked lentils. It may sound weird, but I am big on using tortilla chips to dip into everything.
My calories are way over – since I keep eating since I am not satisfied with the limited diet. However, I haven’t gained any weight – which really shows you the benefit of unprocessed foods.
Hope this helps you. I hope you are doing well. I worry about you not getting enough calories….. Can’t wait to hear how things are going with you
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Yes it helps. My appetite is back, but still not eating enough, though it's better. I've been running out of time in the evening. I am really lazy when it comes to food prep. I like to be able to grab and go, so, I have been eating a lot of fruits. I did make a dish with Adzuki beans and spinach. Yummy. I need to experiment and try to different foods. Bought some quinoa, but have not made it yet. Lemons and limes have been no problem. Was supposed to introduce tamari and whatever else is listed today, but had an emergency, so didn't make dinner. Will have to try again tomorrow. Off to bed now. Thinking I will introduce pineapples out of order, slipped up and had some frozen chunks a few days back without incident. So me thinks it's safe.
Thanks for sharing, will definitely be asking for tips. I'm going to try staying 60 to 80% raw. Oh, my low calries are not good, but I am not worried about it. As I incorporate more foods in my diet, it will go up. I most certainly am not starving myself. It try to eat more, but just can't force it.0 -
So far so good. No real problems. Had the biggest problems with apples...I guess there was always a reason i did not like them. Introduced pineapples and chili pepper flakes out of order with no problems. Chili was by accident. Will be moving on to phase 3 either tomorrow or Wednesday. Planning on making nori rolls and mung bean stew. Debating between lentil and kale or summer kitcheree. But so far food has been tasty.
I have technically been vegan since I've started, woo hoo.0 -
Thought I would update this in case anyone is poking around. I should be finished with this on March 31st! Yeah!!! If I actually took their recommendations and introduced the foods on the second part of the challenge phase, it would be longer. It will take me almost 3 months when I'm done. No MAJOR reactions for me yet, but haven't introduced the worst fenders, dairy, eggs, gluten...
I really am hoping for no STRONG reactions, I wouldn't like to have to eliminate anything for good. So far though it is a good experience, though frustrating at times. To be successful, you really have to prepare all your own meals. It's amazing how many items have corn and sugar as ingredients that you wouldn't suspect. I did not go organic with my produce, just too expensive. Clean them well. Fruit and veggies came in handy for grab and goes. I also really increased legumes and nuts.
So overall, so far I would say I have learned a lot especially that you an be satisfied without processed and junk foods. And if someone as lazy as I am when it comes to food prep can do this , I an definitely be done by anyone.0 -
Glad things are going well so far. Yes, it can be time-consuming to make all your own food, especially at the beginning. As time goes on, you fall into patterns and it is not so time and energy consuming.0
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I hurt all over, my body feels like one big bruise from my knees up. But it's my fault, I just kept going. I was so excited to reintroduce certain foods that I kept going. Corn obviously is a major trigger for me. It initiated my aches and pains and some fatigue. What I am feeling now is way worse. However I am not sure how much of it is from what foods. I probably should have removed the corn before introducing yeast and gluten. I had a hard time with introducing yeast as I couldn't figure out how to do it in large enough quantities. Besides, after looking up foods containing yeast, I realize I probably was ingesting some all along, but in small quantities. Also I accidentally had some caffeine while introducing gluten free bread, but I am not overly concerned because these are not items I have often. In addition, this was the first I've ever had gluten free bread and don't plan on it again...yuck.
Now when I introduced wheat/gluten I had immediate digestive issues. Mainly gas, I can handle that, but I went hog wild yesterday and the evening before, and my body is none too happy, but again, also had some corn products. Soooo, I am not really sure of the culprit. I also suspect sugar and some of these chemicals in the food.
I have made note of all the food I suspect or am not sure about and will retest them. I am finishing up the diet, then I'm going to do sort of a detox on mostly no offending fruits and veggies, then I will test those particular items. But boy do I feel awful, I was feeling great and was really looking forward to eating out.
Did I mention corn is in everything! If I have to cut out that ingredient, I'll be pouting a little but. I love corn in all it's forms..
Oh, finally took an allergy test, will post the results, but don't think much will show up. Oh and I have put on 10 pounds since march 3rd, most between last week Friday and this past Friday. I know it's not fat. I had some muscle soreness from lifting weights, and the rest of the aches and pains were fibro related, plus some edema. I was really pushing myself on the exercise too, so possibly another factor with the flare up, but I pulled back and was taking it easy a couple of days beforemy body bruise condition. :-)0 -
Glad things are going well so far. Yes, it can be time-consuming to make all your own food, especially at the beginning. As time goes on, you fall into patterns and it is not so time and energy consuming.
Agreed, I noticed that as I went along. I kinda enjoyed it. I know it is something I will have to do if I want to take charge of my health.0 -
Corn is one of the hardest to eliminate, and there are not very many gluten free breads (commercial) that don't use it.
I am completely grain-free, so if you are in need of corn-free recipes or ideas, take a browse through my diary and let me know how I can help!0 -
Corn is one of the hardest to eliminate, and there are not very many gluten free breads (commercial) that don't use it.
I am completely grain-free, so if you are in need of corn-free recipes or ideas, take a browse through my diary and let me know how I can help!
Thanks, will do. I'm hoping it's not corn itself, but maybe corn syrup, modified food starch, etc. Will see.
Tell me about that Jamaican Quinoa and Beans0 -
It is my take on this recipe:
http://simplyrecipes.com/recipes/jamaican_rice_and_peas/
Since I can't use rice, I sub quinoa. Dry fry the spices instead of using oil, and use a light coconut milk. Very tasty!0 -
Oh my, I am about to start the Elimination Diet in April and this peas and rice dish sounds delicious! With a few modifications, I can even eat it during the restrictive Phase 1. Thank you for sharing.0
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You're welcome! Let me know if you need other recipes. I have a ton of them.0
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I was on an elimination diet given by my naturopath, after 3 months, I had a food panel (blood test) done as I still had hives. The food panel was nice in that it told me exactly what to avoid and what i would need to moderate once my liver was back to normal (it was a pretty expensive test though) but now that we know what my triggers are I've had to eliminate them all for the next year (even the ones that i will only need to moderate in the future) which is about 20 different things (including dairy, casein, gluten, eggs, and soy). Then I'll be able to reintroduce about 14 of those back into my diet in moderation, still not dairy or soy though Right now I'm on month 2 of a liver detox protein powder and I was also on 3 different types of Unda drops to support my liver during this.
It's definitely a great way to figure out what your body can and cannot handle.0 -
I've done this without doing allergy testing and I have to say that it has made a huge difference for my body. I developed an intolerance to nuts, eggs and most red meat/pork as I aged and suddenly things were tearing up my stomach. I suspect that I have a failing gallbladder but modifying my diet has reduced some of the bloat/pain I was feeling, and saved me many repeated trips to the bathroom! I think it will do good for you. I do eat eggs in moderation (like I can have baked goods because it's 1-2 eggs for the entire batch, but I'll only eat one, for example) but I won't eat an omelet, for example.0
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