People. Seriously, wtf is wrong with them? Cheating is wron
calvert6183
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Im sick of this. most of my friends are women.. Cheating is cheating. Its wrong to actively search for a replacement for your boyfriend. Just dump him. Its cheating to have a boyfriend but play the nice guy, this is not Twilight. People get hurt. Going to a bar and kissing random guys is cheating. Having a boyfriend and telling a guy if her boyfriend doesn't text her, she will sleep with him. My guy friends will search for Bachlorette parties cause its easy to get laid by the bride to be.
Yes, Ive seen this many times. People wonder why im not wanting to fall for a woman. Am I the only person who believes in respect and loyalty? I seriously, dont know more than 4 loyal women. Those 4 are loyal because they are dating a bad boy. I know this is irrelevant to fitness but women, you have no idea how much i get hit on by married or taken women. Im just not that guy. If i was in a relationship, i would not flirt, give out my number, hug, kiss, have dates, or send nudie pics to other women while in a relationship. Sorry for venting. Im just mad at my friend.
If you are my friends list, you know im mainly fun and funny, but man, im sick of seeing this crap. If you are unhappy, dump him and move on. Get a hobby or eat some damn cereal. Just quit screwing with poeple.
Yes, Ive seen this many times. People wonder why im not wanting to fall for a woman. Am I the only person who believes in respect and loyalty? I seriously, dont know more than 4 loyal women. Those 4 are loyal because they are dating a bad boy. I know this is irrelevant to fitness but women, you have no idea how much i get hit on by married or taken women. Im just not that guy. If i was in a relationship, i would not flirt, give out my number, hug, kiss, have dates, or send nudie pics to other women while in a relationship. Sorry for venting. Im just mad at my friend.
If you are my friends list, you know im mainly fun and funny, but man, im sick of seeing this crap. If you are unhappy, dump him and move on. Get a hobby or eat some damn cereal. Just quit screwing with poeple.
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lol there are all kind of woman just have to find the right one Not easy nowadays but somehow I believe woman are like that because all the bad things that happened to them kinda like getting a revenge in their mind I think :P0
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This is more about my friends. Im ok. Im just tired of seeing it and dealing with it. Women do this because they are insecure and need constant need for attention. I just dont get it. Women say men are bad, yes there are bad men out there but there is as many just bad women out there. Right one, most have to get married and divorced before they find the right one. Technology is the blame, text messaging, online dating, and Kim Kardashian (ok maybe a stretch but hell I just like blaming her). My friends are great guys, I just wish women would quit messing with them. As for me, im not into sleeping with married chicks or taken chicks.0
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Lol, sadly enough, it is pretty difficult to find many people who have any sense of loyalty and such when it comes to relationships. Some people honestly just need to grow up and work on themselves before they even consider being in a relationship at all... And, you're right; if you are really done with the person you're supposed to be with, then LEAVE THEM!!! Just because you don't really want to be with your significant other doesn't make cheating ok; it still makes you a cheater...0
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I couldn't AGREE more!! Good for you!0
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There's a morally sound woman right here! I get just as angry about cheating and have actually walked away from friends who have chosen to cheat on their partner as I think it's disgusting. My first boyfriend cheated on me after 5 years together and for many years I lost my ability to trust, no one should have to lose a piece of themselves because of someone else's disgusting actions!0
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I agree 100% but from my experience it is complete opposite. I know tons of man *kitten* and all my female friends are completely faithful. Hmmm interesting. But it seems as though A LOT of people male or female seem to always be looking to one up what they already have. Which is definitely messed up I agree if your to the point in your relationship where you are looking at others like that it's time to move on. I believe that if you truly love someone there is no way you could cheat on them the guilt would over power you.0
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The same thing applies to men. I know you're venting and you may be loyal to one woman, but there are MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY *deep breath* MANY man out there who cheat on their wives/girlfriends, and for them, it's not even about love, it's just physical, then they don't understand why their wife/girlfriend has kicked them to the curb.
Cheating is wrong, but sometimes, flirting is a way for women to feel like they are special. If they are in a happy, healthy relationship, flirting will just be a smile, a joke, and lapping the extra attention, but have no intention of taking it further...maybe that's not even flirting. But if they are unhappy, they will flirt and possibly cheat because they don't have the strength to leave their other half, or there are other factors, such as money or children.
I'm not condoning cheating. I was in a horrible relationship with my ex husband, I was depressed, he thought he was the best I would ever have, classic verbal put downs, I put on weight, he mocked me and he was (and still is) a compulsive liar who got us both into debt and now I am paying for it, and yet I NEVER cheated on him. I could have, several times, but I don't think cheating is right. I wouldn't want someone to cheat on me, so why do the same. Cheating means you have no respect for your partner and don't care about their feelings.0 -
i need some popcorn....0
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People cheat when their needs are not met in the relationship, so if you are a lousy lover or treat your girl like **** then don't be surprised if she cheats.0
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Wow I don't know ANY girls like this...0
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I agree can't stand a cheater... not RIGHT in any shape or form. So it's awesome to hear a man say it! :drinker:0
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There's a morally sound woman right here! I get just as angry about cheating and have actually walked away from friends who have chosen to cheat on their partner as I think it's disgusting. My first boyfriend cheated on me after 5 years together and for many years I lost my ability to trust, no one should have to lose a piece of themselves because of someone else's disgusting actions!
I so agree! I had my fingers burnt on more than one occasion and now I am wary of men BUT I do not think them all bad and I question female friends motives on occasions too! I totally agree with the sentiments - people should treat eachother well and respect fellow human beings. I am fortunate now to have great friends who I trust - both male and female - but they are a small select group. Aquaintances are just that and can be kept at arms length if need be.0 -
Men and women alike often seem to have this complex where they always want what they can't have. As soon as they get it, they don't want it anymore. I know this one guy who only is ever interested in women who already have someone else. It's strange, but I do think some people have issues like that, for whatever reason... Doesn't make it right, but that's just an observation I've made I suppose. Cheating is definitely wrong - and it pisses me off when some people say it's not cheating to kiss or flirt or whatever. If it would hurt your significant other to see you doing it with another person - it's cheating, plain and simple.0
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i assume women/men cheat because they do not respect themselves and thus no one around - they can't. they cheat because they have done it once and either were not caught or they liked the feeling - or both. if we think about it we can see that lately people tend to choose the easy way rather than fight for what they want - because they want it all.... plus, not to forget, the nakedness of body and words these days its just amazingly disgusting... everywhere you look you see from top to bottom all sorts of uncovered people - to me, that means empty people... and there are lots who encourage that attitude... sad... still, you are not alone. i am sure there are a lot of other people around who are loyal partners - they might not all have weight problems and thus not on mfp0
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So i take it you aren't into polyamory....0
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I agree, loyalty and marriage vows aren't generally taken seriously by too many. I personally am a loving loyal wife who would never be unfaithful, but i know plenty of men and women who aren't this way.0
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I'm an incredebly loyal woman and think cheating is wrong. I seriously think you must have no respect for the person your with to do that to them and if you hate them that much then why are you with them? I don't get why people don't just leave the person they are with and move on if things are that bad.
Sorry my little rant is over I've been with my other half five years now and would never ever cheat on him.0 -
It's men's nature to be polygamous, do your research and you might learn a thing or two.0
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The same thing could be said for men, too.
I do often wonder if the high amount of infidelity is simply because we're conditioned to believe monogamy is the one and only way, and many of us are wired for polyamory. It certainly creates an environment for those who are simply different to grow up to believe their urges are wrong or warp their perceptions of themselves.0 -
It's men's nature to be polygamous, do your research and you might learn a thing or two.
I'd like to see that backed up by some facts.0 -
It's men's nature to be polygamous, do your research and you might learn a thing or two.
While I don't think this is the best way to say it, it's fairly accurate. Human beings are not naturally monogamous. That term has fairly moralistic (read religious/spiritual) connotations. We (generally speaking) are just like most mammals. We procreate. Just as other animals will mate with multiple partners to produce offspring, it's inherent for us to do the same.
That being said, I don't condone cheating. I do condone being open and honest with your partner. Communication is key, especially if needs aren't being met.
Don't give up on women just yet. You'll find the one that is right for you.0 -
It's men's nature to be polygamous, do your research and you might learn a thing or two.
Actually, you need to do your research. Quit going by studies that were done in 1992. Times have changed. WOmen want to settle down later than ever. Usually in their 30s, men want to settle down in their 20s. Society trends, women are more career oriented now. Studies and statistics prove women cheat more than men before marriage and yes, men cheat more after marriage.
You must be older, men were the dogs back in the day but now men are more caring, in alot cases being the only parent, and mosre sensitive than women. ANy woman who is single and dates online knows this, they meet guys who want to jump in a relationship or fall in love really quick. Most women want to have fun and date around. Generations change with each generation.
But hey.whatever. Bottom line, people cheat. Also alot of good women go over bad boys and keep search for the same guy with a different name. I know many loyal guys and many of my female friends know many loyal guys I could hook you up with. But wait, never mind, I dont like you. My friend got really messed up so show some compassion.
Keep in mind, this is not a contest on who cheats more. I just dont like seeing it. Cheating is not cool. Thank you to those who were nice and fair with your comments. Ask for the one about the good lover. Its not that simple, women dont cheat for sex. Its for attention due to insecurities. Some people work alot, are over seas serving our country, or on the road. Jeeez. Im just venting and im sorry. I just feel bad for him.0 -
So i take it you aren't into polyamory....
Technically that should be either polyphilia or multiamory - 'polyamory' is grammatically incorrect! :laugh:
#isalanguagegeek
But that, I think, is part of the problem. Although it's not something I indulge in, I truly believe that it is the way forward if some people want to have sustainable relationships. Our needs have changed so much, and as has already been pointed out, technology has given us access to the entire world, so we have far more opportunity for all kinds of relationships. Relatively speaking, monogamy is a pretty new thing, and while it's fine for some people, it's absolutely not fine for others. It's rare that one person can satisfy all the needs of another; I'm not talking about just physical needs, I mean intellectual, psychological, emotional, etc.
Having said that, I don't think most of us are culturally ready yet for multiple relationships; they take absolute trust and understanding from both partners, and acceptance. While part of me is conceptually open to the idea, I do know that in reality I would have difficulty handling the fact that my partner was spending time with someone else, even if I had another person too! And how would I feel about my 'other' spending time with *their* other/s? So much room for conflicting emotions....yet I know people for whom this works incredibly well. I also know it is something my partner just isn't into, so even if I were up for it, it's never going to happen because what we have is far too precious to jeopardise....and we've both worked extremely hard to get where we are now. Despite my earlier comment about it working well for some, I've also seen far too many 'open relationships' crumble simply because the people involved were usually going along with what their partner wanted rather than lose them. That's no basis for multiamory - that's 'legalised' cheating IMO!
I don't know that women are any more prone to cheating than men...as far as I am concerned, people are people, and if someone has a propensity to play away, they are going to do it regardless. What I would say is that if someone finds this concept hard to handle in their friends, then perhaps they need to not be friends any more. I cannot imagine that any of my friends would cheat on their partners, and to be honest, if they felt a need to, then something must be very wrong in their relationship, and they'd have probably spoken to me first anyway!
When all is said and done, my philosophy is that if I don't like how someone is behaving, and I find it goes against my moral compass, then if talking to them and trying to help doesn't resolve the issue, I make the decision that the relationship cannot continue. That goes for friends, partners, employers, even family in some cases....life is far too short to be hampered by bad relationships IMO, and I most certainly am not a martyr!0 -
Times have changed. WOmen want to settle down later than ever. Usually in their 30s, men want to settle down in their 20s. Society trends, women are more career oriented now. Studies and statistics prove women cheat more than men before marriage and yes, men cheat more after marriage. You must be older, men were the dogs back in the day
I suspect that the reason more men than women played around 'back in the day' was simply because a) birth control was rarely available to unmarried women, and b) married women had their hands full with the daily drudge and child-rearing!
Historically, it's generally been accepted that men will cheat because it was believed that men had 'needs', and women didn't (yeah right!). There was also the matter of offspring; a man, particularly a wealthy or noble man, absolutely had to be certain that an issue from his relationship with his wife was his own, and the only way to ensure that was for it to be socially and legally unacceptable for women to be unfaithful to their husbands. Of course, the higher up the social ladder one was, the less likely that marriages would be anything other than political alliances. Until very recently (and still so in some cultures), women have been nothing more than chattels, to forge alliances between men. No wonder then, that people had affairs...and yes, there have been many women who have defied convention...and lost everything.
Something I forgot to mention in my earlier post is that we now live in a society where so many people believe they have a right to everything...little wonder then, that there are those for whom that 'everything' extends to cheating on their partners. :ohwell:0 -
I agree, it's so wrong! If I started having any feelings for anyone other than my bf, I'd seriously look at my relationship first instead of going straight in for it. Not only would I be hurting my partner, I'd really hate myself. I just couldn't do it!0
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