Do you still have Faith in the FDA after Reading This???

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Grokette
Grokette Posts: 3,330 Member
First the FDA declares Pizza the equivalent of a vegetable serving...............now they are calling Walnuts drugs??????

Please wake up people, we have got to stand together on this. People that are heading up and advisers to the FDA making the government policy are previous Monsanto attorneys and Execs.

As a matter of Fact, Michael Taylor, former attorney for the FDA has stated that we Americans do not have an inherit right to choose the food we eat for ourselves or for our families.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/health-care/8294-walnuts-are-drugs-says-fda

Walnuts Are Drugs, Says FDA

Seen any walnuts in your medicine cabinet lately? According to the Food and Drug Administration, that is precisely where you should find them. Because Diamond Foods made truthful claims about the health benefits of consuming walnuts that the FDA didn’t approve, it sent the company a letter declaring, “Your walnut products are drugs” — and “new drugs” at that — and, therefore, “they may not legally be marketed … in the United States without an approved new drug application.” The agency even threatened Diamond with “seizure” if it failed to comply.

Diamond’s transgression was to make “financial investments to educate the public and supply them with walnuts,” as William Faloon of Life Extension magazine put it. On its website and packaging, the company stated that the omega-3 fatty acids found in walnuts have been shown to have certain health benefits, including reduced risk of heart disease and some types of cancer. These claims, Faloon notes, are well supported by scientific research: “Life Extension has published 57 articles that describe the health benefits of walnuts”; and “The US National Library of Medicine database contains no fewer than 35 peer-reviewed published papers supporting a claim that ingesting walnuts improves vascular health and may reduce heart attack risk.”

This evidence was apparently not good enough for the FDA, which told Diamond that its walnuts were “misbranded” because the “product bears health claims that are not authorized by the FDA.”

The FDA’s letter continues: “We have determined that your walnut products are promoted for conditions that cause them to be drugs because these products are intended for use in the prevention, mitigation, and treatment of disease.” Furthermore, the products are also “misbranded” because they “are offered for conditions that are not amenable to self-diagnosis and treatment by individuals who are not medical practitioners; therefore, adequate directions for use cannot be written so that a layperson can use these drugs safely for their intended purposes.” Who knew you had to have directions to eat walnuts?

“The FDA’s language,” Faloon writes, “resembles that of an out-of-control police state where tyranny [reigns] over rationality.” He adds:

This kind of bureaucratic tyranny sends a strong signal to the food industry not to innovate in a way that informs the public about foods that protect against disease. While consumers increasingly reach for healthier dietary choices, the federal government wants to deny food companies the ability to convey findings from scientific studies about their products.

Walnuts aren’t the only food whose health benefits the FDA has tried to suppress. Producers of pomegranate juice and green tea, among others, have felt the bureaucrats’ wrath whenever they have suggested that their products are good for people.

Meanwhile, Faloon points out, foods that have little to no redeeming value are advertised endlessly, often with dubious health claims attached. For example, Frito-Lay is permitted to make all kinds of claims about its fat-laden, fried products, including that Lay’s potato chips are “heart healthy.” Faloon concludes that “the FDA obviously does not want the public to discover that they can reduce their risk of age-related disease by consuming healthy foods. They prefer consumers only learn about mass-marketed garbage foods that shorten life span by increasing degenerative disease risk.”

Faloon thinks he knows why this is the case. First, by stifling competition from makers of more healthful alternatives, junk food manufacturers, who he says “heavily lobb[y]” the federal government for favorable treatment, will rake in ever greater profits. Second, by making it less likely that Americans will consume healthful foods, big pharmaceutical companies and medical device manufacturers stand to gain by selling more “expensive cardiac drugs, stents, and coronary bypass procedures” to those made ill by their diets.

But people are starting to fight back against the FDA’s tactics. “The makers of pomegranate juice, for example, have sued the FTC for censoring their First Amendment right to communicate scientific information to the public,” Faloon reports. Congress is also getting into the act with a bill, the Free Speech About Science Act (H.R. 1364), that, Faloon writes, “protects basic free speech rights, ends censorship of science, and enables the natural health products community to share peer-reviewed scientific findings with the public.”

Of course, if the Constitution were being followed as intended, none of this would be necessary. The FDA would not exist; but if it did, as a creation of Congress it would have no power to censor any speech whatsoever. If companies are making false claims about their products, the market will quickly punish them for it, and genuine fraud can be handled through the courts. In the absence of a government agency supposedly guaranteeing the safety of their food and drugs and the truthfulness of producers’ claims, consumers would become more discerning, as indeed they already are becoming despite the FDA’s attempts to prevent the dissemination of scientific research. Besides, as Faloon observed, “If anyone still thinks that federal agencies like the FDA protect the public, this proclamation that healthy foods are illegal drugs exposes the government’s sordid charade.”
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  • Grokette
    Grokette Posts: 3,330 Member
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  • just_a_southern_belle
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    Guess I need to Google Monsanto because I am clueless. But no I do not trust government agencies. There is always a political motive or a financial one or both
  • Grokette
    Grokette Posts: 3,330 Member
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    Guess I need to Google Monsanto because I am clueless. But no I do not trust government agencies. There is always a political motive or a financial one or both

    Monsanto is the company that make the poison Round Up, which is a herbicide. Monsanto is the main company behind GMO's and all the Genetically modified fruits and vegetables, grains out here that people are eating, which is not healthy.

    Michael Taylor is a former Monsanto attorney who now makes the Policy for the FDA.

    He has stated in the past this very statement: People have no inherent right to choose the food they eat or what they feed their children.

    http://foodfreedom.wordpress.com/2010/05/09/fda-you-have-no-natural-right-to-food-health-or-private-contracts/
  • Coyla
    Coyla Posts: 444 Member
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    I haven't listened to the FDA for awhile. I don't rely on a government agency to decide what to eat. :) I go with what works. We all need to be responsible for our own food choices.
  • jennajava
    jennajava Posts: 2,176 Member
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    I don't have faith in any acronym that begins with the word "federal."
  • athensguy
    athensguy Posts: 550
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    You aren't allowed to make certain medical claims without FDA approval. I don't see a problem with that.
  • daphnegetnfit
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    Never trusted the FDA in the first place
  • adjones5
    adjones5 Posts: 938 Member
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    I've never had faith in the FDA.
  • rugbyphreak
    rugbyphreak Posts: 509 Member
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    i grow most of my own food without chemicals or additives, so i never listen to them. i eat what i want and i enjoy my freedoms. the government can't do what's right for every single citizen all the time.
  • Grokette
    Grokette Posts: 3,330 Member
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    You aren't allowed to make certain medical claims without FDA approval. I don't see a problem with that.

    Stating Health benefits of a food is not the same as making medical claims.
  • Grokette
    Grokette Posts: 3,330 Member
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    i grow most of my own food without chemicals or additives, so i never listen to them. i eat what i want and i enjoy my freedoms. the government can't do what's right for every single citizen all the time.

    The problem is, we are becoming a police state and I read some place a couple of weeks ago that they are going to make it illegal to grow your own food in the near future.
  • Grokette
    Grokette Posts: 3,330 Member
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    i grow most of my own food without chemicals or additives, so i never listen to them. i eat what i want and i enjoy my freedoms. the government can't do what's right for every single citizen all the time.

    This judge sided with the FDA..................And it is funny that Michael Taylor (former Monsanto) said nearly the same thing.
    According to Wisconsin Judge Patrick J. Fiedler, you do not have a fundamental right to consume the food you grow or own or raise. The Farm To Consumer Legal Defense Fund, the pioneers in defending food sovereignty and freedom, recently argued before Judge Fiedler that you and I have a constitutional right to consume the foods of our choice. Judge Fiedler saw no merit to the argument and ruled against the FTCLDF. When they asked him to clarify his statement, these were his words:


    “no, Plaintiffs do not have a fundamental right to own and use a dairy cow or a dairy herd;”
    “no, Plaintiffs do not have a fundamental right to consume the milk from their own cow;”
    “no, Plaintiffs do not have a fundamental right to produce and consume the foods of their choice…”
  • YassSpartan
    YassSpartan Posts: 1,195 Member
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    I know some fans of mine in this website will probably respond to my reply, but whatever.

    FDA is full of crap as many or most government agencies. They work based on the influence of lobbyist. They're a bunch of people who have no clue and do what they're told based on the amount of $ they receive.
  • Val_from_OH
    Val_from_OH Posts: 447 Member
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    I work for a company that is regulated by the FDA, and we have a lot of meetings that end with "You've got to be kidding! The FDA says that we can't say that?!!!"

    In this case, I can't believe that they actually put into writing that Walnuts are a drug. Did anyone proof-read that letter?

    On the other hand, I completely understand why the FDA prevents food companies from providing this type of labeling. MFP people are food-smart, but not everyone is. My MIL is convinced that she can eat high-saturated-fat, high-sodium foods all day, but as long as she is getting her Omega 3's, she will not get heart disease. I hate to tell you, but a handful of walnuts a day is not going to cancel out all that bacon.

    In order for supplements to really work, they must be taken in a controlled way, as part of a controlled diet, and generally, real people do not eat the same way as the people participating in a study. I do believe that walnuts are a healthier choice, than say, Fritos, and Diamond should be able to claim that. However, they should not be indicating that Walnuts prevent heart disease. That is just asking for a lawsuit....
  • LuckyLeprechaun
    LuckyLeprechaun Posts: 6,296 Member
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    i grow most of my own food without chemicals or additives, so i never listen to them. i eat what i want and i enjoy my freedoms. the government can't do what's right for every single citizen all the time.

    The problem is, we are becoming a police state and I read some place a couple of weeks ago that they are going to make it illegal to grow your own food in the near future.

    You.....HEARD!????? OH GOD NO!!!!!!!!!!


    SHE HEARD IT!!!!!


    It must be true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    Who told you!!!!!!????????????? It was THEM!!!! THEY said it!!!! OHHHHHHGOOOOOOOOOOOD the sky is falling...............
  • UsedToBeHusky
    UsedToBeHusky Posts: 15,229 Member
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    Ah... the fine lines of marketing...

    The difference between what Lay's did and what Diamond did is simply about the wording. Lay's made a generic statement "heart-healthy." They did not describe what about their product was "heart-healthy" and so they can legally get away with that because they made no claim to how their product was "heart-healthy". On the other hand, Diamond was very specific about what elements of their products offered health benefit. The issue for the FDA is that they have not run their own study to investigate that claim, even though others have. This is more about the laws governing false claims in advertising more than anything else. If Diamond had simply put "heart-healthy" on their packaging, there would not have been a problem for the FDA.

    As far as the reference to walnuts being described as drugs, I am thinking that someone somewhere screwed up and used the wrong form letter.
  • Lesa_Sass
    Lesa_Sass Posts: 2,213 Member
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    Okay people before we take this kind of thing on blind faith, we need to do some investigation into the matter.


    Actually, the issue is, that the company was trying to make claims on the packaging that walnuts can be used to prevent and cure illness.
  • YassSpartan
    YassSpartan Posts: 1,195 Member
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    I know some fans of mine in this website will probably respond to my reply, but whatever.

    FDA is full of crap as many or most government agencies. They work based on the influence of lobbyist. They're a bunch of people who have no clue and do what they're told based on the amount of $ they receive.

    And I'm not trying to hijack your post, but to give you another example about how stupid agencies are, not only in United States but also around the world, did you ever hear that the EU banned claims that water can prevent dehydration?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/8897662/EU-bans-claim-that-water-can-prevent-dehydration.html
  • kingkong123
    kingkong123 Posts: 184 Member
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    You aren't allowed to make certain medical claims without FDA approval. I don't see a problem with that.

    Stating Health benefits of a food is not the same as making medical claims.

    "...the company stated that the omega-3 fatty acids found in walnuts have been shown to have certain health benefits, including reduced risk of heart disease and some types of cancer."

    That's a medical claim.

    Also - the tomato sauce in pizza was determined to be a vegetable. Obviously, they didn't just deem pizza a vegetable. That would be ridiculous for various reasons, among which is the fact that it is comprised of various ingredients...sauce, dough, cheese, etc. But I'm sure that topic got drilled on here.
  • kelseyhere
    kelseyhere Posts: 1,123 Member
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    I ate walnuts with my oatmeal this morning at breakfast, does that mean I'm high?