Eat more...scared

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  • junyr
    junyr Posts: 416 Member
    Maybe you should go hunt and chase every meal you have down too. You say exercise isn't a factor? Cavemen did not have delivery...
  • grinch031
    grinch031 Posts: 1,679
    I think personally that its hard to get over the idea that to lose weight you need to eat less or starve. It is a lesson that has been ingraned in us from years of media and mis-information. Yes we are also told to eat healthy and excercise but the education is just not as thorough but the media and social aspect always say to eat less or starve yoruself to lose weight. and the problem is that eating less does work. Unfortunealty it is not easy to always starve and keep it up, the yo-yo or rebound is usually a result and the weight comes back with a vengence (natural body reaction to starving then eating) I personally find that the very correct concept of eating well and nourishing our bodies makes perfect sense and does work but there is still that nagging voice from the past telling me to not eat and it will go faster....

    The mainstream dietary community doesn't seem to understand why people overeat. They think its some kind of psychological condition due to a toxic culture. This is only true in that it is socially acceptable to eat junk foods that cause obesity and disease. However the need to overeat is not cultural, it is hormonal. They think people who eat normally but get obese just have a slow metabolism. They set standards for how many calories everyone should eat, even though everyone's caloric needs are different. Someone who is hormonally balance eats precisely the right amount of calories they need to expend, and someone who is in a hormonal imbalance eats more calories than they need. The actual numbers are irrelevant other than the magnitude of the difference between calories IN and OUT. If someone is hormonally balanced and they overeat, then their body will compensate and burn off the excess or suppress hunger for a while. If someone is hormonally imbalanced and under-eats, their body will slow down their metabolism or signal hunger to get them to eat more and keep the fat on.
  • grinch031
    grinch031 Posts: 1,679
    Maybe you should go hunt and chase every meal you have down too. You say exercise isn't a factor? Cavemen did not have delivery...

    Well exercise hasn't been a factor for me. When I was 18 I was very lean and exercised a lot. Over the past 12 years, I have increased my exercise and slowly gained weight and kept going on calorie-restricted diets to decrease it. Why, because my body developed an intolerance for the diet I was eating. Everything else I did other than correct the quality of my diet became irrelevant. Once I corrected the diet, calories became completely irrelevant.
  • vingogly
    vingogly Posts: 1,787 Member
    Thanks. I'm scared because I worked hard to get the weight off. I don't want to put it back on. I know you can' tell by my original post but I definitely do have have an unhealthy relationship to food! I love it too much!! lol I am finally feeling good about myself and don't want to go back to feeling like that. I know i haven't been making the best choices lately and I know thats part of my "platteau". Thanks for the input!!

    You might want to look at "Intuitive Eating", by Evelyn Tribole and Elyse Resch. It's about fixing our relationships with food and recognizing the inner cues that tell us we're hungry or full, rather than about diets and magic solutions. The core ideas are: eat only what you like; eat only if you're hungry; stop when you're satisfied; enjoy what you're eating. They get into healthy choices and exercise later in the book. They have a website, which you can check out here: http://www.intuitiveeating.org
  • kschhr
    kschhr Posts: 103 Member
    Well as long as you still have a deficit, I'd say it's worth trying, even if you're scared. Worst that could happen would be you don't lose any and just stay the same. You're not eating more than you're burning, so there's no problem. Just give it a shot!
  • SassyCalyGirl
    SassyCalyGirl Posts: 1,932 Member
    I was set at 1062 calories per day, lost 6 lbs and never ate burned calories back. I work out daily burning between 500-700. My ticker doesn't show this, but I have reached my desired weight. 10lbs was my goal, but 6lbs has proven to be sufficient. My calories have just been up'd as I am now in "maintainence mode" and I am scared to eat 1582 calories. In fact it has proven hard for me to get anywhere near that. At this point I am just trying to get to 1200-1300.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,432 MFP Moderator
    had this discussion with my dr today. I am 16lbs from goal. She said to drop my cals to 1100 for 3 -5 days then back to the 1200. Now..I know this is going to catch grief....but she said to do the opposite that everyone always says (upping). Im going to try it a few days this week...but not consecutive.
    Thats because most doctors dont know crap when it comes to nutrition.

    see? told ya it would catch grief..lol
    Its the internet..youre allowed to be mean :)

    Wasn't trying to be mean, but rather truthful. Most doctors only have to take one or two classes in nutrition. Much of which is outdated by now. If you really want to know about nutrition, you go to a nutritionist or even better a dietician. My good friend is a cardiologist and I know a lot more about nutrition than she does. it's not to say she isn't a great doctor, it just means that isn't her specialty. It's also the reason why you go to the GI doctor for stomach or intestinal issues instead of going to a general doctor.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,432 MFP Moderator
    And by the way, I started my weight loss journey eating at 1800 calories. I plateaued after 90 days of p90x where I didnt lose any weight or body fat. I upped my calories to 2600 and within the next 90 days I lost 10 lbs, 6" and 3% body fat. I am now doing p90x2 and just upped my calories to 3000 and lost another 3 lbs in 2 weeks.


    Simple facts, food is fuel. If you don't eat enough of it, your body will fight or conserve it's calories. If you want to lose weight and continue to burn body fat, then you have to eat to get there. Below is a quote from another thread that has a bunch of links that shows eating more is better for you.
    I'm guessing you aren't eating enough. It doesn't sounds like you are even eating your exercise calories, which you probably should be doing at only 1200 net calories per day. From my experience, Turbo Fire and Insanity burn a ton of calories, and intense cardio programs like those really do require more fuel. I would set your MFP goal to lose no more than 1 lb per week, and eat all of your exercise calories.

    Here are some helpful links:

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/439140-refeed-diet-break-or-cut-calories-lower-a-plateau-discussi

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/395881-people-who-lost-weight-eating-more

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/403565-research-behind-eating-more-to-lose-more

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/395948-caloric-intake-results

    And, the most awesome group on MFP: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/groups/home/17-women-eating-2-000-calories-per-day
  • Smithvalerie
    Smithvalerie Posts: 49 Member
    had this discussion with my dr today. I am 16lbs from goal. She said to drop my cals to 1100 for 3 -5 days then back to the 1200. Now..I know this is going to catch grief....but she said to do the opposite that everyone always says (upping). Im going to try it a few days this week...but not consecutive.

    I have been told that before too by doctors. If I ever get closer to my goal and can't lose, I will definitely try it. Let us know how it works!
  • katcod1522
    katcod1522 Posts: 448 Member
    Being female...and only 5'2...I cant eat 1800 calories and still lose. Im a work in progress..and a learning experiment.
  • Eating excessively low calories or even starving yourself doesn't work. Your metabolism is simply going to turn the dial down and you won't lose anymore weight. The thing that has been successful with me is just to drop calories slightly, maybe 10-20% of your normal intake and slow taper it down as your weight falls. I guess its kinda like tricking your body into thinking that everything is ok but at the same time you're still not hitting it hard enough that your metabolism takes a tumble.

    Cheers.

    Ryan Parker
    Zdiets.net - How I Lost 180lbs, Blood pressure 120/80, Cholesterol 176mg/Ld
  • striveforhealthy
    striveforhealthy Posts: 137 Member
    I was scared too. After asking from help from others on why I was losing weight at a snails pace....in the past two weeks I started eating back my calories from my work out and I've lost 4lbs in 2 weeks which took me like 2 months to achieve prior. Obviously it was what my body needed and kick started my weight loss back up.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,432 MFP Moderator
    Being female...and only 5'2...I cant eat 1800 calories and still lose. Im a work in progress..and a learning experiment.

    That isnt necessarily true. Look at the links i provided. Two more specifically; caloric intale results and people who lost more eating more. As long as you are exercising you can eat a ton of calories. I can tell you from the 50+ women i have designed diet plans with that the majority are in the 1800-2200 calorie range. Many of the are short. One of those is my wife who is 5'2". Math is below.


    My wifes bmr is 1360. Works out 5-6 days a week and has a lightly active job. She burns around 400 calories per workout which is a mix of strength training and cardio.


    Tdee= 1360 x 1.375 +400 = 2270 *.8 = 1816


    So it is possible but you just need to adapt it for your metabolic rate and ativity level.
  • katcod1522
    katcod1522 Posts: 448 Member
    I sit at a desk M-F 9-5. On my feet with 2 kids from 6-9pm. Run 3 times a week for an hour.

    1200-10%- 1080. Im above that daily.
  • tladame
    tladame Posts: 465 Member
    Eating back exercise calories works for me. Besides, I am hungrier on the days I exercise, so I'd be starving if i didn't eat more.

    A lot of people here have found success "zig-zagging" their calories. I've never officially tried this, but I have had weeks where I would be at 1200 calories for a few days, then go quite a bit over one day, and weighed less the day after. Go figure. It might be worth looking into if you're trying to break through a plateau.

    Good luck and don't be afraid! Food is good and helps keep you going. =)
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,432 MFP Moderator
    I sit at a desk M-F 9-5. On my feet with 2 kids from 6-9pm. Run 3 times a week for an hour.

    1200-10%- 1080. Im above that daily.

    I don't get what you are trying to calculate. So if you can help me on that, it would be great. Based on your stats in your profile, your estimated BMR is ~ 1400

    TDEE = 1400 * 1.2 = 1680 * .8 (20% deficit) = 1344 <--- how many calories you should eat before exercise.

    = 1344 * 7 (days) = 9408 + 1500 calories (about how many calories you would burn exercising over the week) = 10908


    And if you want to spread that over the week even so you aren't playing catch up on days you workout

    10908/7 = 1558.


    Now if you burn more (which is very possible with running) your calories would go up. So it's quite possible you are under eating. If you want to discuss more, hit me up on PM and we can analyze more. I am a big numbers gruncher person.
  • I am the same way but I have noticed that when I eat more I expect to gain and I usually loose lbs. then I get excited and try to cut back to increase the weight loss and I gain a lb. I am trying to increase my cal bc i am stalled right now too.
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