NO WHEY MAN!!
texastango
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This conversation is to try and stimulate knowledge (fact from fiction) and some education about Whey Products. I lost my weight without conciously using supplements of Whey although they were likely in some of the things I ate. There are a variety of Whey products and suggested benefits. As a topic for a fun forum I'd love to hear about what you've tasted, was it good, is it expensive? On the flip side we'll try and sort out Whey Concentrates (most bioactive protein, but the most contaminants - cholesterol, lipid), Isolates (less lactose, high protein - 90 percent) - higher cost, and hydrozolates -
Wiki
Whey protein is the collection of globular proteins isolated from whey, a by-product of cheese manufactured from cow's milk. The protein in cow's milk is 20% whey protein and 80% casein protein, whereas the protein in human milk is 60% whey and 40% casein. Whey protein is typically a mixture of beta-lactoglobulin (~65%), alpha-lactalbumin (~25%), and serum albumin (~8%), which are soluble in their native forms, independent of pH. The protein fraction in whey (approximately 10% of the total dry solids within whey) comprises four major protein fractions and six minor protein fractions. The major protein fractions in whey are beta-lactoglobulin, alpha-lactalbumin, bovine serum albumin, and immunoglobulins.
[edit] Major formsWhey protein typically comes in three major forms: concentrate (WPC), isolate (WPI), and hydrolysate (WPH).
Concentrates typically a low (but still significant) level of fat and cholesterol but, in general, have higher levels of bioactive compounds, and carbohydrates in the form of lactose — they are 29%–89% protein by weight.
Isolates are processed to remove the fat, and lactose, but are usually lower in bioactivated compounds as well — they are 90%+ protein by weight. Both WPC and WPI are mild to slightly milky in taste.
Hydrolysates are whey proteins that are predigested and partially hydrolyzed for the purpose of easier metabolizing, but their cost is generally higher. Highly-hydrolysed whey may be less allergenic than other forms of whey.
Research indicates that the use of supplementary whey or soy protein combined with resistance training offers some benefit over no protein supplementation. The authors of this research concluded that "young adults who supplement with protein during a structured resistance training program experience minimal beneficial effects in lean tissue mass and strength.". In contrast, another study of elderly men found supplementation with whey protein before and after exercise to not have any significant effect on skeletal muscle hypertrophy compared to placebo. The timing of protein supplement ingestion may not have any significant effects on strength, power, or body-composition.
Your thoughts? Which products do you like best? Powders, shakes, bars? Which taste best? Pluses and minuses you've experienced?
Wiki
Whey protein is the collection of globular proteins isolated from whey, a by-product of cheese manufactured from cow's milk. The protein in cow's milk is 20% whey protein and 80% casein protein, whereas the protein in human milk is 60% whey and 40% casein. Whey protein is typically a mixture of beta-lactoglobulin (~65%), alpha-lactalbumin (~25%), and serum albumin (~8%), which are soluble in their native forms, independent of pH. The protein fraction in whey (approximately 10% of the total dry solids within whey) comprises four major protein fractions and six minor protein fractions. The major protein fractions in whey are beta-lactoglobulin, alpha-lactalbumin, bovine serum albumin, and immunoglobulins.
[edit] Major formsWhey protein typically comes in three major forms: concentrate (WPC), isolate (WPI), and hydrolysate (WPH).
Concentrates typically a low (but still significant) level of fat and cholesterol but, in general, have higher levels of bioactive compounds, and carbohydrates in the form of lactose — they are 29%–89% protein by weight.
Isolates are processed to remove the fat, and lactose, but are usually lower in bioactivated compounds as well — they are 90%+ protein by weight. Both WPC and WPI are mild to slightly milky in taste.
Hydrolysates are whey proteins that are predigested and partially hydrolyzed for the purpose of easier metabolizing, but their cost is generally higher. Highly-hydrolysed whey may be less allergenic than other forms of whey.
Research indicates that the use of supplementary whey or soy protein combined with resistance training offers some benefit over no protein supplementation. The authors of this research concluded that "young adults who supplement with protein during a structured resistance training program experience minimal beneficial effects in lean tissue mass and strength.". In contrast, another study of elderly men found supplementation with whey protein before and after exercise to not have any significant effect on skeletal muscle hypertrophy compared to placebo. The timing of protein supplement ingestion may not have any significant effects on strength, power, or body-composition.
Your thoughts? Which products do you like best? Powders, shakes, bars? Which taste best? Pluses and minuses you've experienced?
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I've tried whey protein powder, adding it to my smoothies in the morning. It was a great way to start the day with protein and make something decadent more appropriate as a nutritional source. It also seemed to make the sugar crash go away. It was recommended by my endocrinologist. She was right on target. All of my vitamins and powder were Designs for Health products, which seem to be high quality.
Thanks for asking this because I'd gotten away from that and need to return to using it. Reminded - thank you!0 -
Your thoughts? Which products do you like best? Powders, shakes, bars? Which taste best? Pluses and minuses you've experienced?
My thoughts are that the study you are quoting is ambiguous without putting into context the diet in which protein supplementation is added. If you are supplementing an already protein-sufficient diet with whey protein you probably won't see much (if any) added benefit. If you are protein deficient, then I would expect a significant difference when supplementing with whey. Supplements are best used when they are making up for a dietary deficiency. Adding a dietary item that you are already sufficient in, isn't going to do much of anything in most cases (at least, to my knowledge).
I prefer Optimum Nutrition brand for price and I like the taste. As for pluses and minuses: It assists me to hit my protein target on a daily basis with convenience and flavor. Minuses, makes me fart a ton.0 -
I prefer Optimum Nutrition brand for price and I like the taste. As for pluses and minuses: It assists me to hit my protein target on a daily basis with convenience and flavor. Minuses, makes me fart a ton.
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Had to laugh at this one. I have the same issue0 -
Thanks for your excellent post. Even though it's opinion, it's well thought out opinion and that's very much appreciated. Thanks on the advice for good tasting supplements. Have you tried Quest Nutrition Bars? Just curious. And I'd say pass the gas but I already have found similar issues!0
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